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Peter_Rotten
10-25-2007, 11:47 AM
Here's a quick little eBay story:
In an attempt to buy Goyfs, I put a little of my collection on eBay.
I set this gem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230184354635&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=013) at a rather modest BIN. I was quite disappointed when someone bid on it - .90 cents - but, in retrospect, I'd like to shake that person's hand. Not to be coy, but the original BIN was nowhere close to $50. :wink:
Here's a quick little eBay story:
In an attempt to buy Goyfs, I put a little of my collection on eBay.
I set this gem (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=230184354635&ssPageName=STRK:MESE:IT&ih=013) at a rather modest BIN. I was quite disappointed when someone bid on it - .90 cents - but, in retrospect, I'd like to shake that person's hand. Not to be coy, but the original BIN was nowhere close to $50. :wink:
You always screw me on my old Signed/Altered cards. First it was the 'King of All Fatties' Verdant force at Big Arse I (or 2? Can't remember) and now this. I believe I valued this at like 10 bucks in a trade when you were trying to pimp out dragon. ROFL
PS.. Told you this thing would fucking sell good. At least it will go to your Goyfs so I don't have to hear bitching anymore.
Peter_Rotten
10-25-2007, 12:03 PM
PS.. Told you this thing would ------- sell good.
Yeah, but you didn't say this good.
And, hey! No PMing in the forums.
APriestOfGix
10-25-2007, 12:18 PM
holy mother of scott, thats a lot for a freaking land!!!
as cool as it is, thats a grip of cash...
freakish777
10-25-2007, 01:41 PM
My favorite was the 3 people that got into a bidding war over 4 Heart Slivers when it was announced that Slivers were back in Time Spiral. I had 3 sets, and proceeded to ask the next 2 highest bidders if they'd like to purchase the playsets for their final bidding price since I had the extras. Their final bid prices? $10, $9, $7.50.
Wait, I don't get it. Someone Bid on this INSTEAD of hitting the cheaper Buy It Now? Can you even do that?
freakish777
10-25-2007, 01:50 PM
There's an option to have both Buy It Now, and a normal auction. The Buy It Now disappears to buyers after the first bid has been placed (this is how eBay originally imagined would be good, you could "play" the auction scene and either attempt to get a good deal by bidding low but risk being outbid and kick yourself later for not using the BIN option, it basically made auctions even more like a game and more addicting which it was way back in the day when there wasn't any BIN option).
Then they realized they should just let people set prices, since selling goods and taking a commission is good now matter how you do it.
There's an option to have both Buy It Now, and a normal auction. The Buy It Now disappears to buyers after the first bid has been placed (this is how eBay originally imagined would be good, you could "play" the auction scene and either attempt to get a good deal by bidding low but risk being outbid and kick yourself later for not using the BIN option, it basically made auctions even more like a game and more addicting which it was way back in the day when there wasn't any BIN option).
Then they realized they should just let people set prices, since selling goods and taking a commission is good now matter how you do it.
Weird, I only saw your whole message after I quoted it. Anyway, didn't it work a bit differently for a while? If there was a BIN price, you could pay that price until the bid went above that? Or am I making that up?
Anyway, P_R, would you mind sharing with us what the BIN for this was?
freakish777
10-25-2007, 01:57 PM
Weird, I only saw your whole message after I quoted it.
phpBB systems have a little nuance in them where if you edit within 1 minute or so, it doesn't display that you've editted your message in the italics at the bottem.
Anyway, didn't it work a bit differently for a while? If there was a BIN price, you could pay that price until the bid went above that? Or am I making that up?
I think you're making that up. I could be wrong, however.
Ewokslayer
10-25-2007, 02:06 PM
He is definitely making that up or is just mistaken which is more likely and less sinister.
Man I loved that Island. Too bad you're getting rid of it. Then again, you are part of a non-existant Magic population so I won't be seeing you ever again.
Peter_Rotten
10-25-2007, 03:21 PM
Weird, I only saw your whole message after I quoted it. Anyway, didn't it work a bit differently for a while? If there was a BIN price, you could pay that price until the bid went above that? Or am I making that up?
I thought that it worked like that too (awhile ago).
Ewokslayer
10-25-2007, 03:30 PM
If you could still see the BIN price after bidding had started on it why would anyone ever bid higher than that price if it was still available?
Random Ebayer:
I could BIN for 14.99 but I would rather bid 16 for it, since I like spending more money on things.
Anyway, P_R, would you mind sharing with us what the BIN for this was?
The BIN on this was $20
If you could still see the BIN price after bidding had started on it why would anyone ever bid higher than that price if it was still available?
Random Ebayer:
I could BIN for 14.99 but I would rather bid 16 for it, since I like spending more money on things.
As far as I remembered, you couldn't. eBay simply wouldn't let you. So if you put a BIN price on something, that was the maximum it could ever sell for. I guess I am just mistaken. That's why I was so confused.
Wallace
10-25-2007, 03:52 PM
As far as I remembered, you couldn't. eBay simply wouldn't let you. So if you put a BIN price on something, that was the maximum it could ever sell for. I guess I am just mistaken. That's why I was so confused.
I had this happen to me once. I was selling a Video Navigation unit for a car abd set the BIN @ $799.99 it ended up selling fo $1296.51. BIN goes away as soon as someone bids on the item, most sellers set the BIN way to high. Once and a while you can find a good BIN deal though.
DeathwingZERO
10-26-2007, 12:08 AM
The BIN system went over a number of changes to get to where it currently is. The order of the second and third might be reversed, I'm not sure when I was dealing on eBay when I noticed the changes through BIN options, I just know I went through all of these changes at one point or another.
First incarnation: The BIN option disappears if ANYBODY bids the item past it's starting point (meaning the second bid)
Second: BIN would stick around until the bid war was 1 bid increment short of it, then it would leave. This one lasted for a shot while, but then people just stopped caring.
Third: BIN option stuck around until the bid met or exceeded the BIN, in which it would just automatically go back to regular auction.
Fourth: BIN with OBO (or best offer) was created. This split the BIN function to act like a seperate auction, you couldn't put a bid price lower than the BIN, but if you did, it'd act as a BO. You can also do a "standard" auction with BIN, though I don't know how it works anymore if people bid on it at it's starting (not BIN) price (example BIN $50 starting bid $.99). This is what they currently have.
I'm liking the idea of a BIN/OBO offer system, because then you don't have to worry about people trying to undercut your price, but they can still offer and see if you'll take it. It's pretty fair for all involved.
EDIT: Oh and anything usually modded by T. Nielsen now goes for a damn good amount. A buddy of mine was saying she's charging about $10-15 for the ink modifications now, just because of how popular she became after people saw her full-colored alt FoWs. It's the same for a lot of artists that charge to do mods, and for popular ones that don't. A friend recently got a $50 offer for an artist proof that had an RK Post inked Cthulu face on the back, and got $40 in trade at a store from a Giancola Island that was modded with an angel in the lightning.
So ya, if you have any big-name modded cards, be sure to charge high for them. Chances are, it's what people will pay.
Zach Tartell
10-31-2007, 08:15 PM
Dear Peter_Rotten,
I bid on your Exaulted Angel, but didnt' win it.
Love,
Zach
Peter_Rotten
10-31-2007, 08:46 PM
I noticed that your .99 bid didn't pan out. No shopping victoriously for you. :frown:
Zach Tartell
10-31-2007, 09:07 PM
I noticed that your .99 bid didn't pan out. No shopping victoriously for you. :frown:
Blasphemous! How dare you think I'm one of those "I bid twenty-five bucks on a complete set of Arabian Nights" assholes. I went a whole four dollars on the Angel, because of your three dollar shipping fee.
Call me a ninety-nine cent ass grumble grumble...
Peter_Rotten
10-31-2007, 09:30 PM
Blasphemous! How dare you think I'm one of those "I bid twenty-five bucks on a complete set of Arabian Nights" assholes. I went a whole four dollars on the Angel, because of your three dollar shipping fee.
Call me a ninety-nine cent ass grumble grumble...
2 dollar shipping fee, son. International and shit.
zulander
10-31-2007, 11:52 PM
Hey PR do you want 3 foil goyfs? If so let me know, I'm selling my pimp stuff since I recently got engaged and would rather start saving for the wedding. I also have a FBB set of taigas/savannah/badlands that I'll sell too.
Hey PR do you want 3 foil goyfs? If so let me know, I'm selling my pimp stuff since I recently got engaged and would rather start saving for the wedding. I also have a FBB set of taigas/savannah/badlands that I'll sell too.
Matt is the anti-pimp when it comes to cards. Unless your foil goyfs contain quotes from Literary masterpieces then no go.
DeathwingZERO
11-01-2007, 02:29 PM
Zulander, PM me a price on any of the cards your willing to sell, I'm sure I've got a number of buddies that would at least be interested in finding out what you'd want for them.
I'd also like a list with prices, I want to finish my playset of foil Goyfs (only have 3) and I might be interested in other stuff too.
Send me a message.
Nightmare
11-01-2007, 03:09 PM
I'll just talk to you this weekend...
Jaynel
11-01-2007, 03:27 PM
Zulander, could you also send me a PM with prices?
Ewokslayer
11-01-2007, 04:42 PM
I'll just talk to you this weekend...
Zulander isn't coming to The Mana Leak Open.
He is another one of those guys thats gets so excited about an event, talks about how great it will be, and then doesn't show.
Wallace
11-01-2007, 04:45 PM
I would be intrested in the FBB lands, please pm me the prices too.
Bryant Cook
11-01-2007, 06:58 PM
I collect that island foil. That is kinda depressing that I don't have it.
zulander
11-01-2007, 07:14 PM
Zulander isn't coming to The Mana Leak Open.
He is another one of those guys thats gets so excited about an event, talks about how great it will be, and then doesn't show.
Lol, I can't deny it. But I do have a valid reason, getting married can be expensive so instead of just quitting magic I'll just sell my pimp and replace it with white bordered cards. Also, for those interested when I get home from class tonight I'll take pics and create a "selling pimp" thread.
Ewokslayer
11-01-2007, 09:15 PM
Lol, I can't deny it. But I do have a valid reason, getting married can be expensive so instead of just quitting magic I'll just sell my pimp and replace it with white bordered cards. Also, for those interested when I get home from class tonight I'll take pics and create a "selling pimp" thread.
Traditionally, the woman's family pays for the wedding and the husband pays for the honeymoon.
Don't sell your cards, make The Mana Leak Open 4 your honeymoon.
zulander
11-01-2007, 10:58 PM
Well once I make the full post you can read why I'm paying for the wedding and she isn't lol.
Okay, all of the steals I got today amounted to about 120 bucks. Here is what I got.
Playset of duals
Playset of fetches
2 Extirpate
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Nantuko Monastery
2 Wasteland
4 UG Island
Pretty good.
Kadaj
11-04-2007, 10:17 PM
I just picked up a Japanese Thoughtseize for 20$ including shipping. Considering normal English ones usually go for 25+, I was pretty happy with that. Not as immense a steal as it could've been, but still nice.
Weekend Daddy
11-15-2007, 09:00 PM
here's some Holy Ebay. 2 whole decks
An entire Solidarity deck
http://cgi.ebay.com/MTG-Legacy-1-5-Deck-Solidarity-Fetchlands-Reset-FOW_W0QQitemZ320181991484QQihZ011QQcategoryZ19115QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
A whole 43 land deck w/ 2 tabernacle
http://cgi.ebay.com/MTG-Legacy-1-5-Deck-43-Lands-Tabernacle_W0QQitemZ320182123693QQihZ011QQcategoryZ19115QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
So Annoying My Account Is Banned
11-15-2007, 10:03 PM
What's up with that only negative feedback that you have? Did that really think he was buying regular cards? What cards were they?
I want details, this sounds like it could be a funny story.
Edit: I meant Peter Rotten's rating on eBay (99.6%)
Zach Tartell
11-16-2007, 12:13 AM
Is that a good deal on the 43 land?
I would say the deck is about 550-600 bucks, so kind of a good deal. I am sure you could build the deck cheaper if you bought the duals and things individually.
Is that a good deal on the 43 land?
There's no such thing as a "deal" on 43 Land.
(Seriously though, if you want to play it, I think I still have a bunch of extra parts if you decide to build it.)
Thought I should post this here.
http://search.ebay.com/_W0QQsassZstrike-ninja-summoning-jitsu
This has got to ba a scam. Please read his info. Talks about these 1 of 2 auctions, but I don't see the second one at all. He is making a shit ton of money like 100 bucks for a playset of Goyfs that will probably end up being 4 jank rares. Also, who would have an auction for 4 Beta Time Walks? I suggest no one bid on his stuff. I also asked if he had any actual pictures of his collection. No reply yet.
DeathwingZERO
11-17-2007, 05:37 AM
Bid on the Walks. 12 hours left, I put a pretty low max bid, if their fake I won't be out much for very good looking proxies.
He seems pretty legit so far, but that's also because a lot of his auctions have been selling Yu-Gi-Oh stuff. I'll get back to you guys if I win and when/if I receive the cards.
ForceofWill
11-17-2007, 05:47 AM
You are going to get a crap rare. It's just a scam hes selling sealed packs with shit in them. And saying it's possible to get time walks out of them.
You are going to get a crap rare. It's just a scam hes selling sealed packs with shit in them. And saying it's possible to get time walks out of them.
Not even that. He's basically saying "Hey, you bid what you would pay for 4x Minty Bayous or Timewalks or whatever. If you win, you get one of the 2 lots infront of me... One is your minty Bayous, the other is 4 PoS rares. I'll flip this here double-headed coin, and if it comes up tails you get your bayous!!"
Pinder
11-17-2007, 12:27 PM
What I'm wondering is why this guy somehow has 97% positive feedback. Shouldn't people be getting pissed at him?
I know that there's no way that this (http://cgi.ebay.com/4-MTG-Beta-Mox-Emerald-VERY-MINT-NEW_W0QQitemZ170168633467QQihZ007QQcategoryZ19115QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem) is possibly real, but still, you'd think he'd have more negative feedback, no?
Well all of his previous feedback was for YuGiOh, so maybe he actually had legit cards there, who knows.
I find the negative feedback funny though. Guy 1 leaves negative, follows up with "these cards were fake", then the seller replies "they were not, you're just trying to return fake cards to keep my l337 ones and get moneys back u scamz0R!"
Another thing wrong is he says one of two lots... I don't see two auctions for Beta Bayous.
@Deathwing
Let me know if you win and what you get, though. If this is legit, I need some Beta Bayous. Doubt it though.
Another thing wrong is he says one of two lots... I don't see two auctions for Beta Bayous.
@Deathwing
Let me know if you win and what you get, though. If this is legit, I need some Beta Bayous. Doubt it though.
Oh no, you're reading it right, just misinterperting it.
He means that you bid and if you win, he has 2 lots that he will "randomly" choose from. 1 of Beta bayous, and 1 of rnadom Black, Silver, and Gold symbols or foils... He'll randomly select the lot of 4 cards and then after paying he'll send you either some really cheap and probably fake bayous, or some insanely overpriced dime rares.
Oh no, you're reading it right, just misinterperting it.
He means that you bid and if you win, he has 2 lots that he will "randomly" choose from. 1 of Beta bayous, and 1 of rnadom Black, Silver, and Gold symbols or foils... He'll randomly select the lot of 4 cards and then after paying he'll send you either some really cheap and probably fake bayous, or some insanely overpriced dime rares.
OK now I get it. I just read the 1 of 2 lots and didn't bother to read on. So I guess my post is worthless.
Pinder
11-17-2007, 01:12 PM
A quote for clarification:
This auction is for 1 of 2 lots (yes, 1 of 2 lots giving you a 50% chance of winning) in which 1 lot will contain the 4 MTG - Beta - Mox Emerald (VERY MINT), the other will contain 3 randomly inserted cards the have black, silver and gold icons on them, foil cards and all other cards affiliated with the game.
So I get a 50% chance of winning something I already won? How can I lose?
And I love how he says '3 "randomly" inserted cards that have black, sliver, and gold icons on them'. Yeah, you'll get 3 random cards that might be common or uncommon. I'm sure glad I payed $150 for that Chimney Imp, Norin the Wary, Soaring Hope combo? Neato!
Seriously, this guy needs to have something horrible happen to his nuts.
So many people are falling for it too! Like the Tarmogoyfs are at 100! I am just mad because I have had something like this happen to me. I saw a playset of wooded foothills ending really soon, so I hastily bid. They were gold boardered and I got 8. Luckily it was only for a buck each on the auctions, but still...
I don't really think he even has the cards.
I looked throught his inventory, and saw he had signed beta Serra Angels.
When you take a look at them, you'll notice the autographs are all exactly the same I did notice this already on some other cards, but it's obvious when looking at the angels. He simply posted the same picture 4x.
Nihil Credo
11-17-2007, 03:38 PM
If people fall for it, they deserve to lose their money. The guy should still get his ass handed to him for fraud, but his bidders are idiots either way.
I just bought the Solidarity deck Weekend Daddy had up for $300. Good deal? Considering it had 6 Japanese Fetches, 4 Japanese Twincast, and 3 Japanese Cunning Wishes. Is that good? Not familiar with Japanese prices, but I know they are better than normal.
The dude replied to my question. I asked if he could post some actual pictures of the cards. His reply:
'what kind of pics? i posted them less you talking about different pics, if so, like wat?'
Obviously those pictures were not real, so...
mikekelley
11-17-2007, 11:47 PM
It's a gamble, to buy sight unseen. You'll probably be fine though.
DeathwingZERO
11-18-2007, 05:42 AM
I was outbid, (my max was 40), and then after clicking on the link, IMMEDIATELY went to the "Auction not found, invalid" page. So basically either:
1) this guy is caught in a total scam (kinda hard to believe with a damn near flawless feedback, but it happens, especially if hacked)
or
2) he cancelled the auction entirely because it didn't go for nearly enough, and was actually legitimate
Either or, I'm not worried. Had I been out $40, I would have simply contacted Paypal and told them exactly what they want to hear to refund the money. Going through as many transactions as I have, I know exactly what to say now :D
EDIT: Read the follow up email from Ebay. They cut the auction itself, and I'm sure a few others that have ended. I also noticed that I NEVER saw the writing for the 1 of 2 like you all did, until I went over the whole thing via "select all" option. I think that in itself was enough to get the auction taken down, as people seemed to have read it wrong (like I originally did).
I was honestly surprised when I noticed that the Ancestrals only hit $100, and the Walks barely pushed $50, then realized that this is another of those perfect scams, because you can't prove he doesn't have the cards if he ships out one batch of "insane" rares that gets on his feedback (like the foil chrome moxes, or 4x Library, etc).
There are no more pictures up, but the auction is still listed, despite ending this summer. I thought someone might be interested:
The Mother of all Sega Collections (http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Holy-Grail-of-a-SEGA-Saturn-Collection_W0QQitemZ300119002813QQihZ020QQcategoryZ3665QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)
It didn't come with the Saturn. Shame!
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