3cb #6

[Illissius]

I'm taking over this round for Cait_Sith, who is caught up in schoolwork. Congratulations go to the previous round's winner, who, as far as I'm aware, is me. Go me! Decklists and results for previous 3CBs can be found at the wiki (http://thesource3cb.pbwiki.com/). Actually, I lied; the results can't be. I'd like to ask everyone who participated in the previous three tournaments to fill in their results for those pages. (Password is "3cbthesource"). Thanks.

Entries for this round close at 23:59 EST on Saturday, November 3rd. To enter, send your deck by email to thesource3cb at gmail. Preferred format for submissions:


(3CB #6 Entry title of email)
DoomGoat deck name

Mountain first card
Mountain Goat second card
Doomsday third card

DoomGoat is a most terrible deck (think Ivan the Terrible), the bane and emperor of every format it's legal in, and a terrifying outlaw menace to those where it's not. It crushes its enemies by summoning a Mountain Goat, following which the opponent despairs, and DoomGoat wins. notes, comments, flames, taunts, theological thermodynamic dissertations

My username is MonkeyUncleFucker. be sure to include your username if it's not the same as your email address


DO NOT PM ME! ENTRIES SENT BY PM WILL NOT BE ACCEPTED.

I won't even log in to the account until the deadline has passed, but if you're paranoid, I'll be posting the MWS security code for my own deck later today (if I don't spontaneously fall asleep, in which case tomorrow) and you can wait for that.



-- Rules of 3CB --

Your deck is composed of 3 cards which all start in your hand.
Your library contains 0 cards and you don’t have a sideboard nor own any cards outside of the game. (Wishes fetch nothing.)
Random effects always go in your opponent's favor. (This includes Chaos Orb and Falling Star.)
You can see your opponent's hand, so you make the best possible play. (If both players' taking an action would cause that player to lose the game, then neither player takes any action, and the game is a draw.)
You don't lose as a result of not being able to draw a card. (If cards are put in your library, you draw them as normal. Effects which require you to skip a draw work as normal.)
You play each opponent twice; once going first and once going second.
For each win, you score 3 points.
For each draw, you score 1 point.
For each loss, you score 0 points.

Three rules restrict the kind of deck you can send. They are:
1. You may not submit a deck that can win before the opponent's first main phase.
2. You may not submit a deck that can force an opponent to lose more than one card from his or her hand in a single turn.
3. You may not submit a deck that uses a card on the 3CB banned list.

Other than the aforementioned, everything is handled exactly like a real game of Magic.


-- 3CB Banned List --

All Ante Cards
All Promo cards not available on Gatherer/Autocard
All Unglued and Unhinged Cards (excluding basic lands)

Creatures:
Mesmeric Fiend
Nezumi Shortfang
Voidstone Gargoyle
Meddling Mage
Leonin Squire
Magus of the Moon

Lands:
Wasteland
Ghost Quarter
Strip Mine
Glacial Chasm

Artifacts:
The Rack

Enchantments:
Form of the Dragon
Barren Glory

Instants:
Force of Will

Sorceries:
Abandon Hope
Balance
Blackmail
Brain Pry
Cabal Therapy
Coercion
Misguided Rage
Pulse of the Dross
Restore Balance
Show and Tell

[Mordenkain]

Sweet. Was about time somebody did something to get this going, since it has been to long since round 5. Go go Illissius!

- Mordenkain

[etrigan]

Is Lorwyn legal? If so, will Thoughtseize be banned?

[Illissius]

Hmm, I totally forgot about Lorwyn. Sorry. That'll have to wait until next round, don't want to go back and muck with it now.

[frolll]

Done.

Nice to get this new round started, thanks Illissius ! :)

[Illissius]

So yeah, I managed the sleep thing.

8C1E5DAC

[Illissius]

Just a reminder: there are 14 hours left to submit decks, so if you haven't yet and want to, do.

[Illissius]

Pretty low turnout this time. :(

1. Mordenkain
Bridge.dec
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
Ensnaring Bridge

2. Eldariel
Mishra's Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs

3. frolll
Not Metagame Call
Maze of Ith
Black Lotus
Preacher

4. Sacearuse
B.B.P.K
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Patron of the Kitsune

5. etrigan
Rat's Nest
City of Traitors
Soldevi Sentry
Umezawa's Jitte

6. Maveric78f
Rakdos game.
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rakdos the Defiler

7. Illissius
Hillary Clinton
Saprazzan Cove
Energy Field
Darksteel Reactor

8. WiLdFiRe
Hey mate,
Karakas
Icatian Store
Mangara of Corondor

9. georjorge
The NEW Kodama - now with only one Lotus !
Kodama of the North Tree
City of Traitors
Black Lotus

10. Xero
Swallow It
Black Lotus
Sky Swallower
Mana Vault

11. Pale Moon FTW
//Bridge:
Ensnaring Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs


Edit your results in at the wiki (http://thesource3cb.pbwiki.com/FrontPage). (Password is "3cbthesource").

[etrigan]

I'm going to lose.

[Mordenkain]

1. Mordenkain
Bridge.dec
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
Ensnaring Bridge

1: N/A 0
2: W/L 3
3: W/W 9
4: W/W 15
5: W/W 21
6: W/W 27
7: L/L 27
8: L/L 27
9: W/W 33
10: D/L 34 (Really unsure about this, judge please?)
11: W/L 37

Total result: 37

I think we have a shared 1st place between bridge decks.

- Mordenkain

[Illissius]

I think you lose against 10 both times, because you burn for one when playing the Tongs, and get outraced by a turn. That's a really clever deck, props to Xero.

7. Hillary Clinton
Saprazzan Cove
Energy Field
Darksteel Reactor

01. 6-0
02. 6-0
03. 6-0
04. 6-0
05. 6-0
06. 0-6
07. N/A
08. 0-6
09. 6-0
10. 0-6
11. 6-0

Total: 42

[Eldariel]

Na, the Swallower-deck won (I think he goes all-kill, an awesome deck although he shoulda used Mana Crypt for extra damage thanks to the random-rule). We LL against Sky Swallower. On the play, our best play is Workshop-Tongs-go. He does his thing, and we take pingage from the Vault, he takes one from the Tong, so we're left at 18, he's at 19. Illisius finished better than us too. We got third, I think.

Illisius, you lose at least one game to the Swallower-deck since Mana Vault is a source you control so you take damage from it, Energy Field or not. In fact, you lose both since Cove CiPTs.

[Illissius]

Hmm. That's an interesting rules question, whether "random effects always go in your opponent's favor" goes by owners or controllers. I'd guess owners, but I really have no idea...

[Eldariel]

Meh. Evidently it doesn't matter as the deck all-kills with Vaults already :D

EDIT: What's the Wiki-password?
EDIT#2: Ill, you still lose to Swallower, since Energy Field only protects you from damage from sources you don't control and you'll control the Vault, and you won't live to untap.

[Illissius]

Make yourself an account.

EDIT: Woah, you're right. Fixed.

EDIT again: Wow, there is a wiki-wide password, as I just found out after logging out (and not remembering what the hell it was). Damn my memory is shitty. Going back to thread #1, it seems the password is "3cbthesource". Sorry everyone. Guess that explains why no one was editing their results in. ;)

[Mordenkain]

Can we get a ruling about the "random" rule when it comes to the swallower deck? I think it's an interesting debate.

[georgjorge]

Even with the low turnout, it's nice how such a format evolves from round to round...Swallower/Vault is clever, keeping the strategy of the double threat while significantly improving the power level compared to, say, Idol/Wheel.

[Cait_Sith]

Can we get a ruling about the "random" rule when it comes to the swallower deck? I think it's an interesting debate.

You control the card. Sucks to be you.

The random rule should include make it clear with "sources you control" of some type stuck in there.

[Illissius]

Even with the low turnout, it's nice how such a format evolves from round to round...Swallower/Vault is clever, keeping the strategy of the double threat while significantly improving the power level compared to, say, Idol/Wheel.

It still has a single point of failure though, unlike Wheel (well, that one has Workshop, but it's a lot less vulnerable than Lotus). I'm not sure what a better comparison might be, maybe some Vineyard deck (whether Treetop or Rootwalla).

[Xero]

1. 6-0
2. 6-0
3. 0-6
4. 6-0
5. 6-0
6. 6-0
7. 6-0
8. 6-0
9.6-0
10.na
11.6-0

54 total, I think.

Could someone help me with the wiki site? I don't know how to edit the graph thingie
:cry:

[Illissius]

If you're using Firefox or IE, just go to the Outcomes page, click in the little boxes, and type a number (row #N is your own deck, the columns are your opponents'). If you're not, but your browser supports the functionality (e.g. Opera, like me), set it to identify as Firefox, and then same -- otherwise, open the page in Firefox. (I did post how to edit the raw wikicode in a previous thread, but it's a giant pain in the ass by comparison, so I wouldn't recommend it.)

[WiLdFiRe]

EDIT: I'm an idiot, I can reuse Icatian Store anyway. Nevermind! :P

[Maveric78f]

6. Maveric78f
Rakdos game.
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rakdos the Defiler

I did the stupid (and anti-original) thing that consists to take the last winner deck, which is probably the most hated one.


Pretty low turnout this time. :(

1. Mordenkain
Bridge.dec
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
Ensnaring Bridge

Bridges prevent me from attacking 0-6

2. Eldariel
Mishra's Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs

Bridges prevent me from attacking 0-6

3. frolll
Not Metagame Call
Maze of Ith
Black Lotus
Preacher

Maze owns me 0-6

4. Sacearuse
B.B.P.K
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Patron of the Kitsune

Patron is a weaker creature than Rakdos 6-0

5. etrigan
Rat's Nest
City of Traitors
Soldevi Sentry
Umezawa's Jitte

Sac is better than regeneration 6-0

7. Illissius
Hillary Clinton
Saprazzan Cove
Energy Field
Darksteel Reactor

Rakdos is too fast for Hillary 6-0

8. WiLdFiRe
Hey mate,
Karakas
Icatian Store
Mangara of Corondor

Rakdos is too fast for mangara 6-0

9. georjorge
The NEW Kodama - now with only one Lotus !
Kodama of the North Tree
City of Traitors
Black Lotus

Sac does not target 6-0

10. Xero
Swallow It
Black Lotus
Sky Swallower
Mana Vault

Very fine job. Really. New and metagamed. Even Rakdos looks small compared to him. 0-6

11. Pale Moon FTW
//Bridge:
Ensnaring Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs

0-6

30 points. I equally distribute double loss and double win.

[Illissius]

Rakdos loses to Karakas.

[Maveric78f]

Damn it!

[WiLdFiRe]

Wow, I actually didn't see that O.o.

I'll check that the Wiki is correct.

[frolll]

1. Mordenkain
Bridge.dec
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
Ensnaring Bridge

0-6

2. Eldariel
Mishra's Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Ensnaring Bridge
Scalding Tongs

0-6

3. frolll
Not Metagame Call
Maze of Ith
Black Lotus
Preacher

OMG it's me !

4. Sacearuse
B.B.P.K
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Patron of the Kitsune

6-0 (6)

5. etrigan
Rat's Nest
City of Traitors
Soldevi Sentry
Umezawa's Jitte

6-0 (12)

6. Maveric78f
Rakdos game.
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Rakdos the Defiler

6-0 (18)

7. Illissius
Hillary Clinton
Saprazzan Cove
Energy Field
Darksteel Reactor

0-6

8. WiLdFiRe
Hey mate,
Karakas
Icatian Store
Mangara of Corondor

6-0 (24)

9. georjorge
The NEW Kodama - now with only one Lotus !
Kodama of the North Tree
City of Traitors
Black Lotus

0-6 (24) (Preacher does NOT target the opponent, :cry: - Thanks Illissius. )

10. Xero
Swallow It
Black Lotus
Sky Swallower
Mana Vault

6-0 (30) (Yeah, I made it :D)

11. Pale Moon FTW
//Bridge:
Ensnaring Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs

0-6


So, 30 total. Not that bad for a deck I called Not Metagame Call.
I'm quite content overall; I did not see the Scalding Tongs thingie, but at least I managed to beat the Sky Swallower deck. ;)

Oh that Kodama is really mean beastie. :/

[Illissius]

Preacher
:1::w::w:
Creature -- Human Cleric
1/1
You may choose not to untap Preacher during your untap step.
{wtf there isn't a tap smiley}: Gain control of target creature of an opponent's choice that he or she controls as long as Preacher remains tapped.

[Illissius]

So, next round? Should I or shall Cait_Sith? With everyone calculating their own results, these things are so low overhead that we could open entries for the next one as soon as they close for the last... even start one every 3-4 days, though I'm not sure if people would have the stamina for that. Weekly could be a happy medium, and some predictability and regularity might even help participation.

[etrigan]

Lorwyn legal? Thoughtseize banned?

[Illissius]

That's the plan.

EDIT: So as no one's mentioned any other ideas, 3CB #7 coming right up.