View Full Version : [ANNOUNCEMENT] Legacy @ The Batcave 12/02/2007 Vancouver, WA
The next sanctioned Batcave Legacy tournament will be held on the first Sunday in December. We are departing from the normal "last Sunday of the month" rule, since the last Sunday of November happens to be Thanksgiving weekend. Although attendance has been down at the last couple of tourneys, I think we'll see a spike at this one. This will be the last sanctioned Legacy tournament at the Batcave this year.
In the spirit of the holidays, I will be giving a free Lorwyn booster pack to everyone who registers for the tournament.
Where:
The Batcave
6415 E Mill Plain Blvd
Vancouver, WA 98661
Phone: (360) 694-4947
When:
December 2, 2007
First round begins at 1:00pm.
Deck registration is required!
Entry Fee: $10
How Long:
Probably 4-5 rounds, then cut to top 4 or 8, depending on attendance.
Prizes:
1st: CASH (50% of entry fees received)
2nd thru 4th: store credit
5th thru 8th: store credit (if attendance allows)
Bardo
10-29-2007, 06:49 PM
Put me down. Dunno what I'll play, either Tog, Vorosh (U/b/g Landstill) or some kind of Threshold deck.
Hopefully, the Seattle contingent can make it?
I should be there. Can we sticky this?
Pinder
10-29-2007, 10:02 PM
Hopefully, the Seattle contingent can make it?
I know I can make the drive, it's all a matter of how many people are willing to be in my car.
DeathwingZERO
10-30-2007, 03:10 AM
I need to recheck my calendar to make sure a certain concert isn't that date (I think it's the 4th), but if I'm correct, I'm showing.
And maybe this time I'll playtest beforehand.
Pinder
10-30-2007, 10:47 PM
Man, this thread needs more trash talk like the Northeastern tourney threads.
I'm totally gonna, you know, win...with my deck.
And you're not, or something.
Damn, its harder than I thought.
thefreakaccident
10-31-2007, 01:12 AM
I would, but my local is throwing a rather large event during the 1st of Dec.
It is at Game Empire, in Sand Diego... the first prize I think will be a playset of foil Goyfs, and I think the other prizes are quite good as well; such as foil playsets of other played cards, foreign FoWs, and of coarse Guru Lands... Shawna wasn't very cleear about it all when I asked, but the prizes are guaranteed and the date is set... Dec. 1st.
Doesn't White Weenie own your metagame?
DeathwingZERO
10-31-2007, 07:05 AM
Man, weaksauce trash talking going on in here. Must I remind you what we are really capable of? Does nobody remember the friendly banter between our own Zilla and Bardo?
4serios. Your all gonna lose anyways, when I punish each of you for your $40 duals, $20 fetches and useless blue spells. Fo sho' bitchez.
Bardo
10-31-2007, 11:32 AM
This thread is a stain on the otherwise proud and noble tradition of pre-tournament trash-talking. For shame!
Posts that didn't make me laught have been pruned. - Bardo
Well, anyways, can we please get more than 12?
(I was the only one that made Bardo laugh! Hell yeah!)
Well, your competition was pretty poor. ;) - Bardo
DeathwingZERO
10-31-2007, 08:09 PM
No, he left my comment in as well. Surprising though, as his deck is one of the targets of my not-so-secret-tech. His sideboard options alone are enough to warrant my deck needing to tweak the sideboard.
EDIT: Hey by the way Bardo, would it warrant a vendetta that I not only lost with Thresh but also knock you out of contention when you show up this next time with my new deck? Because I'm laughing inside at the prospect of that, really.
Pinder
10-31-2007, 09:56 PM
EDIT: Hey by the way Bardo, would it warrant a vendetta that I not only lost with Thresh but also knock you out of contention when you show up this next time with my new deck? Because I'm laughing inside at the prospect of that, really.
You'll only get to knock him out of contention if I don't knock you out of contention...again.
Weaklings. Obviously, my sliver-fu cannot be beaten. I will once again 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, draw, 2-0 my way into the finals like the pimp I that I am. You bitches are basically just showing up to pay me.
Pinder
10-31-2007, 10:29 PM
You bitches are basically just showing up to pay me.
And then take half? Technically you went 2-0, 2-0, 2-0, Draw, 2-0, Split, biatch. And you only beat me the first time because I mulled to 4 with no land. It was a good thing you drew with me, because you know that without that kind of luck, you were hopeless up against me.
Pinder
10-31-2007, 11:13 PM
I like to wear women's clothing.
HAY GUYZ LOL U SEE WAT I DID THERE? OMG ITS LIEK HE SAID IT
Lmao. Should I MD Wrath, Humility, Pernicious Deed, or EE? Or all of them? Seriously, my mission is to beat Thresh and Countersliver. That is basically all that is played, right?
Pinder
11-01-2007, 10:35 AM
Lmao. Should I MD Wrath, Humility, Pernicious Deed, or EE? Or all of them? Seriously, my mission is to beat Thresh and Countersliver. That is basically all that is played, right?
Well not anymore, if you're packing all that.
Of course, if you have all that, you'll probably lose to combo early on anyway, and we won't have to see you in the later rounds when we're winning :tongue:.
DeathwingZERO
11-01-2007, 12:46 PM
Our last tournament was TESx2, Counterslivers x2, RGB "Rock", U/G/w Thresh, and then bad decks.
So ya, if you want to trash the counterslivers and thresh, you need to have decent game against combo as well. Come to think of it, I hear Chalice of the Void at 0 and 2 basically cripples TES. They can't get artificial mana sources out, and then they can't get their Burning Wish online for Shattering Spree. But good luck stalling them to the point you have 4 mana out to use.
I'm almost tempted to play Null Rod instead of Pithing Needle at this point just to shut off artificial mana sources as well, but I'm thinking with EtW being the more common kill, that a cheap board sweeper would work better. Still need more testing.
frogboy
11-01-2007, 03:36 PM
Lmao. Should I MD Wrath, Humility, Pernicious Deed, or EE? Or all of them? Seriously, my mission is to beat Thresh and Countersliver. That is basically all that is played, right?
Play 26 lands, five or six Wraths, Plows, Edicts, Fact or Fictions, and permission and call it a day.
Our last tournament was TESx2, Counterslivers x2, RGB "Rock", U/G/w Thresh, and then bad decks.
So ya, if you want to trash the counterslivers and thresh, you need to have decent game against combo as well. Come to think of it, I hear Chalice of the Void at 0 and 2 basically cripples TES. They can't get artificial mana sources out, and then they can't get their Burning Wish online for Shattering Spree. But good luck stalling them to the point you have 4 mana out to use.
I'm almost tempted to play Null Rod instead of Pithing Needle at this point just to shut off artificial mana sources as well, but I'm thinking with EtW being the more common kill, that a cheap board sweeper would work better. Still need more testing.
Well, I was one of the combo players and against Angel Stompy games 2 and 3 he got down turn one chalices set at 0. Game 2 I got 10 gobbo down casting all my 0cc spells, Dark Rit, EtW for 10. I lost because it was a little late in the game. Game 3 I did the same thing on turn 2. So Chalice at 0 is not exactly crippling unless aided by something else like discard or counters.
Hopefully I won't lose to combo :frown: .
Pinder
11-01-2007, 09:40 PM
It seems all my trash talking may have been for naught. Turns out I have family coming in that weekend and I might get stuck at a family dinner that night. I could probably skip, but that would go over like a fart in church. More updates later.
DeathwingZERO
11-01-2007, 10:31 PM
It seems all my trash talking may have been for naught. Turns out I have family coming in that weekend and I might get stuck at a family dinner that night. I could probably skip, but that would go over like a fart in church. More updates later.
Dude. Friends > family. You can see them again, we're but a once in a month chance xD
Ya, the Chalice @ 0 plan is pretty bad on it's own, but I do recall having a bitch of a time against Faeirie Stompy playing out Chalice @ 0 then immediately @ 2 on turn 2. I was basically at their mercy for the first 4-5 turns. Bad place to be when they start hittin you with a 4/3 that's swinging a Jitte and a SoFI.
If I actually had a set of Drakes, I'd be playing that here. I hear Chalice with FoW & Daze backup is good against practically our entire field, lol.
EDIT:
Play 26 lands, five or six Wraths, Plows, Edicts, Fact or Fictions, and permission and call it a day.
And who let you in here? You haven't even shown up, you terrible excuse for a french appetizer. I'd be tempted to run you over like Zilla just because then you'd have an excuse not to show up to future tournaments. Ya bastigez.
Pinder
11-02-2007, 12:48 PM
Dude. Friends > family. You can see them again, we're but a once in a month chance xD
They're coming in from Idaho, so I actually won't see them for a while after this. Either way, though, they'll be here for the entire weekend, too, so it's not like I'm skipping everything. Only the things that were interfering with plans I had already made.
Plus, if I don't go, who's going to drive the Seattle contingent?
DeathwingZERO
11-02-2007, 12:58 PM
They're coming in from Idaho, so I actually won't see them for a while after this. Either way, though, they'll be here for the entire weekend, too, so it's not like I'm skipping everything. Only the things that were interfering with plans I had already made.
Plus, if I don't go, who's going to drive the Seattle contingent?
You should just tell them to move to your area, there's nothing worth staying in Idaho for anyways, short of a potato farm. That way, they won't interfere with your important plans, you won't look like a douche when they pop up unexpectedly, and you can still make your tournaments to hang with fellow nerds.
And I agree, if you don't drive, we lose people that are actually willing to show up. As opposed to those bags of flesh that are within close proximity that don't even bother coming.
Pinder
11-02-2007, 02:48 PM
You should just tell them to move to your area, there's nothing worth staying in Idaho for anyways, short of a potato farm.
Ha, it's ironic that you say that. See, the relatives in question (my sister and her husband) actually used to live in an apartment that was roughly 5-7 minutes from where I live currently. This was until roughly a year ago, when they moved from here to Idaho. So I don't see them moving back, somehow.
Oh, so it's your sister? Surely, your sister understands that you are a geek and have geek needs. We, on the other hand, will never forgive you if you don't come. :tongue: Besides, it's the last one of the year!
DeathwingZERO
11-02-2007, 04:50 PM
This is true. Oh, and if your sister's hot, tell her that she'd totally get money if she did some table dancing. Wouldn't even need to strip!
Pinder
11-02-2007, 08:34 PM
This is true. Oh, and if your sister's hot, tell her that she'd totally get money if she did some table dancing. Wouldn't even need to strip!
Yeah, I'll be sure to pass that long. Should do wonders for my argument.
Awesome. Well, I have also ran into a dilemma, that I hope to resolve. Turns out my parents have plans December 1st. That pushes getting our Christmas tree to Sunday. So lame. Hopefully I can figure this out. God, I should not have waited to get my permit. :frown:
DeathwingZERO
11-02-2007, 11:09 PM
Awesome. Well, I have also ran into a dilemma, that I hope to resolve. Turns out my parents have plans December 1st. That pushes getting our Christmas tree to Sunday. So lame. Hopefully I can figure this out. God, I should not have waited to get my permit. :frown:
Easy solution: get the Christmas tree at night, or next week. Getting the tree at night is pretty typical, a lot of places are open pretty late. If you scrub out, all the better for your time budget. If not, steal a neighbors tree and redecorate it.
Pinder
11-02-2007, 11:14 PM
Easy solution: get the Christmas tree at night, or next week. Getting the tree at night is pretty typical, a lot of places are open pretty late. If you scrub out, all the better for your time budget. If not, steal a neighbors tree and redecorate it.
That or you could just get a ride from someone who has a license, and a car. Who's from Portland. Like Volt. I hear he can drive. And is from Portland.
Also I think he plays Magic.
Well, it is a family thing, so I kind of have to go. Also, we live in the Great Northwest where cool and awesome trees grow, so we always cut it down from some farm. I am sure I can convince them some how. Pray for me or something. :cry:
Pinder
11-03-2007, 01:25 AM
Pray for me or something. :cry:
Dear God,
Please hit Jak's house with a meteor. Then he won't have to go buy a tree.
Amen.
DeathwingZERO
11-03-2007, 01:07 PM
Dear God,
Please hit Jak's house with a meteor. Then he won't have to go buy a tree.
Amen.
And make sure it's Burning. XD
frogboy
11-04-2007, 02:55 AM
And who let you in here? You haven't even shown up, you terrible excuse for a french appetizer. I'd be tempted to run you over like Zilla just because then you'd have an excuse not to show up to future tournaments. Ya bastigez.
I live in Seattle. I don't want to spend five hours in a car to kick your collective asses and you don't want your asses kicked. This arrangement should work well for both of us, no?
collective asses
Okay, now you're just baiting me. You can kiss my collective asses.
Chickenshit.
frogboy
11-04-2007, 03:32 AM
man, when I'm back for break it is so fucking on. you guys don't even know.
man, when I'm back for break it is so fucking on. you guys don't even know.
Oh, we're quaking in our collective boots. es.
DeathwingZERO
11-04-2007, 10:53 AM
man, when I'm back for break it is so fucking on. you guys don't even know.
I live in Seattle. I'm so fucking better than you. I just don't want to come down and prove it, because then people would find out I'm only good as a standard player.
Bring it on you sad little puddle jumper. If you beat me, I'd chalk it up to playing under the shock that you and Bardo would actually be at the same tournament in the same lifetime. Hell, if Zilla showed up at the same time, I'd just give you each my entry fee and go drive myself off a cliff.
I mean, if we have that kind of a miracle, I might as well savor it as my last.
EDIT:
Oh, we're quaking in our collective boots. es.
Man, that was a nice wakeup LOL right there.
Why doesn't this show up in the upcoming events?
I added it to the calendar. - Bardo
ps-I have got most of my deck ready, so I will be ready to go, if I can go...
...that sounded weird.
Bardo
11-06-2007, 02:01 AM
Bring it on you sad little puddle jumper. If you beat me, I'd chalk it up to playing under the shock that you and Bardo would actually be at the same tournament in the same lifetime.
Dude, Froggy and I played in the same tournament in your fucking store at the same time. Were you just baked out of your mind? I was merely drunk, but that is besides the point.
In the tournament in question, I wrecked the house with Gro-A-Tog (taking 2 of your Dark Confidants in prizes), Froggy played 4c Tog and we ended up playing Type 4 after we split the Top 4.
Thankfully, I was not paired against Monsieur Frog in that tournament, as he is a known and sworn enemy of mine, which is to say, he usually kicks my ass.
Edit - Oh, here's an old resport (http://www.themanadrain.com/index.php?topic=29977.0) from the day in question.
Pinder
11-06-2007, 02:25 AM
I live in Seattle. I don't want to spend five hours in a car to kick your collective asses and you don't want your asses kicked.
I live in Seattle. Spending five hours in a car to kick their collective asses is the highlight of my weekend.
Seriously though, when I can be at your goddamn house/dorm/whatever in a car that is already on its fucking way to Vancouver, do you really have any reason not to go?
Buck up, son.
edit - I'm not even sure if I used that phrase correctly
DeathwingZERO
11-06-2007, 12:30 PM
Dude, blah blah blah, blah blah blah.
No need to remind me of tournaments I've hosted, I remember. I also remember you two showing up twice total, and the second time for each of you the other wasn't there. So realistically, both of you being in the same place at the same time is still miraculous. Apparently having real lives means you can't have fun anymore. For shame.
And you guys act like swinging the pot for 1st isn't worth 6-8 hours? I mean hell, Froggie wouldn't even have to drive, just nap the whole way down there. Or if he were smart, he'd have a PSP or DS, because those are life savers to begin with.
Now here's the real catch. If you two AND Zilla show up, I'm buyin you all lunch at the bar across the lot. I know, it's generous, but really it's to prove you guys just didn't bring in some kind of cyborg replacements.
frogboy
11-06-2007, 07:36 PM
I live in Seattle. I'm so fucking better than you. I just don't want to come down and prove it, because then people would find out I'm only good as a standard player.
*flex* ptq formats ftw.
Pinder: I have school and stuff, and I have pretty much every Sunday until the end of time booked.
DeathwingZERO
11-06-2007, 10:28 PM
*flex* ptq formats ftw.
Pinder: I have school and stuff, and I have pretty much every Sunday until the end of time booked.
Sundays are not days to do work and school, Sundays are the day to go to church. Since most of us are not God-fearing Americans, our church happens to be 4 rounds of swiss followed by a trip to the nudie bar with our fresh batch of Jackson's.
Who brings twenties to a nudie bar?
DeathwingZERO
11-07-2007, 03:23 AM
Who brings twenties to a nudie bar?
Those that would rather be up close and personal with a lap dance than those who'd be "one of the guys" at the rack?
Ataxrxes
11-13-2007, 07:27 PM
I'm going to try and make this. It will all depend on the condition of the roads though, as I will be driving from Eastern WA.
Pinder
11-13-2007, 08:29 PM
I'm going to try and make this. It will all depend on the condition of the roads though, as I will be driving from Eastern WA.
Care to pick up a dude (or dudes) in Western Washington?
Ataxrxes
11-13-2007, 10:03 PM
Care to pick up a dude (or dudes) in Western Washington?
That is a possibility.
Pinder
11-13-2007, 11:24 PM
Oh, wait, for some reason I thought this was the Cali tourney thread. I can make the drive to Vancouver. No need for you to go out of your way. Of course, if you're going to Cali....
DeathwingZERO
11-15-2007, 03:36 AM
LOL, still trying to make it to Cali.
You realize if you go, your going to miss this. And then while your trying to get back up to Seattle, something bad might happen.
Something like you getting abducted by one of us and thrown into a trunk, then tied down with weights at the PDX airport strip about 20 yards from where planes would be taking off and landing on the runway.
It's probably a better idea for you to show to this one. You know, for your health.
frogboy
11-16-2007, 03:10 AM
Sundays are not days to do work and school, Sundays are the day to go to church. Since most of us are not God-fearing Americans, our church happens to be 4 rounds of swiss followed by a trip to the nudie bar with our fresh batch of Jackson's.
why wasn't the trip to the nudie bar mentioned in the first place? Much better argument imo.
Pinder
11-16-2007, 03:18 AM
LOL, still trying to make it to Cali.
You realize if you go, your going to miss this. And then while your trying to get back up to Seattle, something bad might happen.
Something like you getting abducted by one of us and thrown into a trunk, then tied down with weights at the PDX airport strip about 20 yards from where planes would be taking off and landing on the runway.
It's probably a better idea for you to show to this one. You know, for your health.
This is true. Plus, I wouldn't miss Vancouver for some tourney 9 hours farther south. It's just inefficient.
Plus, how would I beat you all if I weren't there?
How are you going to be us all if you are here?
DeathwingZERO
11-16-2007, 03:49 PM
why wasn't the trip to the nudie bar mentioned in the first place? Much better argument imo.
Actually that was yet to be mentioned because I never won :(
Pinder
11-17-2007, 05:15 PM
Actually that was yet to be mentioned because I never won :(
Well shit, we'd let you win if you took us to a nudie bar afterwards.
Pinder
11-17-2007, 06:10 PM
Sucks being a minor...
Eh, we'll sneak you in. I mean, technically I'm not old enough either, but come February...
So, I think we should make a chant to yelll and sing.
"Scoop to DEATH!!!"
So... who is going? Not sure if I am able to make it yet, but I want to know if it would be even worth having to make bribes and then go to play a tournament with like 10 people. I need more than that!
PS-play thresh or slivers. I feel combo coming.
DeathwingZERO
11-23-2007, 11:31 PM
By all means play Thresh or Slivers. I <3 my non-basic hate and mass removal spells hitting as many targets as possible. I should still be making this.
Yes, please play your aggro-control decks! So much combo will be there. Slivers need to represent! I will just play my crappy Elgin decks. Don't worry about me, I'll 0-2 drop. Worry about that combo. That shit is crazy.
*Update*
I think I will be there. Like 75% sure.
Edit- Is there still the weekly tourney next week?
I will be there. Just spoke to Don (AngryTroll) tonight. He thinks he can make it, but isn't positive because he has finals the following week.
Nick (Nightshade81) will be there.
Bardo committed a while back, but it would be great to get confirmation.
Pinder? Any Seattlites coming?
Godzilla seems to have dropped off the planet, so I'm not sure about him.
Frogboy is a pussy, so he won't be coming. like Don, I have finals the following week. fuck you.
Yes, the usual Friday night tournament is still on for next week. I'm pretty sure I'll be there.
Btw, don't forget. Free Lorwyn boosters to all registrants!
Sad that our admins can't show up. :frown:
DeathwingZERO
11-24-2007, 03:32 AM
Ya, it's true. But what do you expect from the NW Legacy players, other than it's "finest" in design and theory having no strength in practice?
I'm pretty sure Patrick's been dead for a while now, and someone who knows how to get into his account has been on for him. I can't remember the last time I've gotten a response from him for anything, really.
And we all know Bardo and Frogboy can't make time out of their busy schedules to get smacked around. Well, at least Frogboy, Bardo actually said he should be showing up this time.
I guess you just have to resort to the old tie-up and drag method.
Pinder
11-24-2007, 12:19 PM
Pinder? Any Seattlites coming?
Love to, and I'm really going to try, but my family is really harping on this whole "Family Dinner" shit because my sister's coming in from out of state (of course, she lived in state until just a couple of months ago. I mean it's not like I haven't seen her recently). And if it turns out I can't come, I'm not sure if someone else would be willing to drive (Brian should get off his lazy ass and do it, though). I'm sort of the Seattle lynchpin because I'm crazy enough to make a 3-hour drive both ways for a tourney with 12 people in it :P. Of course, if I can bring 4-5 people, there will be more. But we'll see.
Bardo
11-24-2007, 12:43 PM
Yep, I'll be there.
As for ZillA, even after an intense 2-hour long waterboarding session that even the CIA found appalling, I couldn't get him to commit. :rolleyes:
'Time to get out the car battery and genital clamps.
DeathwingZERO
11-24-2007, 07:03 PM
Do what you can for Zilla, otherwise I'm going to continue claiming he's dead. I mean realistically, I've given him ample opportunities to respond.
maybe i should just talk like this for a wile so he can come on and give me one of those ausome warnings about not using propar capatalizashun and making use of the shift key.
plz 2 b suckin less @ teh grammer---frogboy
Hm, actually that would just as likely spawn a comment from P_R or Frogboy. If either of you read this, kindly direct the reply to Zilla for me, please?
As for Frogboy (whom I know will read this at some point), you can drown in a prairie, sir. Your not even out of college and your already acting like your cards have no meaning to you anymore. For shame.
Oh, and that whole bagged-n-dragged method is going to happen if a certain someone by the name of LinkXwing doesn't plan on showing up. He's been through it a few times before, so I'm sure this one won't make much difference to him.
AngryTroll
11-27-2007, 02:48 PM
That or you could just get a ride from someone who has a license, and a car. Who's from Portland. Like Volt. I hear he can drive. And is from Portland.
Also I think he plays Magic.
Not very well, though.
How are you going to beat us all if you are here?
But, Jak, How are you going to beat us even if you do play your crazy Elgin Deck?
I just picked up the last cards I needed to finish my super secret Batcave-smashing, Thresh, Sliver, and Vorosh destroying deck. Volt can vouch for me....lets just say that Timber Protector is going to be shoving splinters up all your rear quarters.
I basically haven't played magic since school started...I hope I get paired against Slivers in the first round, because I am going to need to practice for a few games before I remember how to play the deck well again. Nothing like crushing face to start the day.
Keep drinking the kool-aid, Don. In case you forget where to find me, I'll be the one playing in the Top 4 while you're drafting.
for the record, drafting is often >>> Constructed---frogboy
AngryTroll
11-27-2007, 05:02 PM
Keep drinking the kool-aid, Don. In case you forget where to find me, I'll be the the one playing in the Top 4.
So, wait, you aren't going to be playing Meathooks?
So, wait, you aren't going to be playing Meathooks?
Hey, smart ass, I made Top 2 split with MeatHooks last time. And guess what the other deck was?
qwned.
AngryTroll
11-27-2007, 05:46 PM
Hey, smart ass, I made Top 2 split with MeatHooks last time. And guess what the other deck was?
qwned.
So, there were what, two people there? That's very impressive.
You know what, I'm so good, I took first last night. With Treefolk. My lamp didn't win a single game all night. So, you see, splitting first with slivers isn't really all that impressive. I've seen your cat play; now, Star is better than my lamp, but not by much. And you had to split with her?
It took me a minute to figure out what the heck qwned was. Wow...I am left speechless.
So, there were what, two people there? That's very impressive.
You know what, I'm so good, I took first last night. With Treefolk. My lamp didn't win a single game all night. So, you see, splitting first with slivers isn't really all that impressive. I've seen your cat play; now, Star is better than my lamp, but not by much. And you had to split with her?
Yeah, my cat is not a very good Magic player. I beat her a good 2 out of 3 times. Congrats on defeating your lamp. I would have predicted a draw. You're definitely a dim bulb by comparison.
It took me a minute to figure out what the heck qwned was. Wow...I am left speechless.
Yeah, that's right. I've taken it to another level.
AngryTroll
11-27-2007, 06:23 PM
Come on, someone else want to join in on the abuse?
Bardo: When was the last time we played in a tournament? I'm thinking DeathWingZero's store. Well, my friend, it is time for your reign of Threshy terror to come to an end. I shall revenge myself on your island-ful deck this time around. I believe, to this day, that I have won a match against you in a tournament. This legacy shall be ended.
Pinder: You are on my list. Like Bears are on Stephen Colberts list, Slivers are on mine.
EDIT: Yes, Page Five is mine.
But, Jak, How are you going to beat us even if you do play your crazy Elgin Deck?
By killing your stupid slivers and dumb green creatures... I thought it was obvious.
Pinder
11-27-2007, 10:11 PM
Pinder: You are on my list. Like Bears are on Stephen Colberts list, Slivers are on mine.
Why, did I beat you? I can't really remember, because I beat so many people.
But yeah, I probably beat you.
DeathwingZERO
11-28-2007, 12:19 AM
Your all as good as dead.
Just thought I'd go ahead and let the trash talking end there.
Pinder
11-28-2007, 01:15 AM
Your all as good as dead.
Just thought I'd go ahead and let the trash talking end there.
Hey now, I beat you too.
DeathwingZERO
11-28-2007, 02:48 AM
Hey now, I beat you too.
I beat me, sir
If you remember my little bit about my complete garbage attempts at sideboarding, I still had 5 other cards I should have brought in against you, which would have been very sufficient at ruining your little man-made-fake-animals.
I beat me, sir
How many times per day and with which hand?
Never mind.
DeathwingZERO
11-28-2007, 05:15 AM
How many times per day and with which hand?
Never mind.
Depends on whether or not I feel like playing combo, aggro, or control, sir. BOOYA!
Pinder
11-28-2007, 01:14 PM
I beat me, sir
If you remember my little bit about my complete garbage attempts at sideboarding, I still had 5 other cards I should have brought in against you, which would have been very sufficient at ruining your little man-made-fake-animals.
And that's why I beat you, remember? A win is a win, dude. :tongue:
Also, Slivers are were hardly man-made. According to canon, they actually existed naturally on a plane which is heretofore unrevealed, but their Queen (and subsequently a large number of their hive) was taken to Rath when it was assembled from pieces of various other planes. So they aren't man-made, they were naturally occuring, at least somewhere.
Which means that there's still a sliver (ha ha) of hope that we'll get an entire Sliver block when Wizard's decides to visit that particular plane.
*droools*
Bardo
11-28-2007, 04:10 PM
Bardo: ... I believe, to this day, that I yet have to win a match against you in a tournament.
Corrected.
Your lifetime record against me is 0-3.
You might be forgetting the time we played at the GPT when I was playing Angel Fish and you didn't realized that you were going to die in combat as a state-based effect before you could gain life from your Exalted Angel. :) Silly.
AngryTroll
11-28-2007, 08:33 PM
I stand corrected on my grammar. Take what little victories you can, my friend, because even if I was 0-10000000 against you, that would but sharpen the sting of indignation you shall receive at my hands come Sunday.
Pinder
11-28-2007, 11:25 PM
Oooh.....I thing we can officially consider it on.
On like Donkey Kong.
frogboy
11-28-2007, 11:47 PM
I'm like inf-few against all of you combined. For the record.
DeathwingZERO
11-29-2007, 12:47 AM
I seem to remember NEVER losing a match to you, Sir.
This also includes various Dragon-infused beatdowns vs your puny Slaver decks.
Slaver is my bitch, now and forever.
But to be fair, you'd probably have kicked my ass at Regionals had we been paired together. Cause, you know....24 hours is plenty of time to playtest a brand new deck against a Standard Gauntlet.
AngryTroll
11-29-2007, 02:14 AM
So.....Treefolk for the win. Lets see....Slivers...that sounds like a little piece of wood stuck in your finger. If Slivers have been doing well, imagine what entire Trees would do to that metagame!
Or perhaps it is time for "UnderBluff"; Merfolk are the new Minotaurs. With that 3cc Merfolk from Homelands, I doubt that I will drop so much as a game all day.
DeathwingZERO
11-29-2007, 02:54 AM
So.....Treefolk for the win. Lets see....Slivers...that sounds like a little piece of wood stuck in your finger. If Slivers have been doing well, imagine what entire Trees would do to that metagame!
Or perhaps it is time for "UnderBluff"; Merfolk are the new Minotaurs. With that 3cc Merfolk from Homelands, I doubt that I will drop so much as a game all day.
I hear little green men love to chop down trees often. I've also heard that they don't appreciate being set on fire. Yep, sounds great for the metagame.
ANd Merfolk are the new WIZARDS, not Minotaurs. You don't win via savage Merfolk advantage, you win via savage Oppression style lockdown mixed with Time Walk!
AngryTroll
11-29-2007, 10:45 AM
I have an idea. How about everyone shoes up, gives me ten dollars, and then we go to the sports bar across the street? You could all save yourselves a lot of trouble.
Pinder
11-29-2007, 01:50 PM
I have an idea. How about everyone shoes up, gives me ten dollars, and then we go to the sports bar across the street? You could all save yourselves a lot of trouble.
Sure, as long as you show us all exactly how to 'shoe' up. Is that some sort of dance move? Is 'The Shoe-Up' like 'The Hustle'?
Tacosnape
11-29-2007, 02:01 PM
Aw, man. I feel left out of trash talking things like this. I hate living in Alabama sometimes.
So, just for fun, If I didn't live 2560 miles from there, I'd take my 1937 rating and my solid plutonium sleeves and my superpowers and come destroy you all.
Pinder
11-29-2007, 02:30 PM
Aw, man. I feel left out of trash talking things like this. I hate living in Alabama sometimes.
So, just for fun, If I didn't live 2560 miles from there, I'd take my 1937 rating and my solid plutonium sleeves and my superpowers and come destroy you all.
Well, yeah.
But you'd still live in Alabama.
AngryTroll
11-29-2007, 08:56 PM
Well, yeah.
But you'd still live in Alabama.
Yeah. I mean, Pinder, driving all the way back to Seattle with a car full of people that I smashed must be rough. But imagine driving all the way back to Alabama!
And clearly I meant everyone should put on shoes, so that we could get in there. You know, no shoes, no shirt, no service, plenty of getting destroyed by Portlanders?
Pinder
11-30-2007, 01:14 AM
Yeah. I mean, Pinder, driving all the way back to Seattle with a car full of people that I smashed must be rough. But imagine driving all the way back to Alabama!
You know, I find it hard to believe you're going to smash 4 different people when you're only going to be in the tournament for 2 rounds, man. It's just simple math.
AngryTroll
11-30-2007, 02:11 AM
Well, if you want to nitpick details, if everyone there concedes to me out of sheer awe after two rounds, then the drive back would still include four people that did not defeat me, but signed match slips with me 2-0. So, yes, you four can share bad beats stories all the way back to Seattle.
Pinder: "And what of AngryTroll?"
Another Seattlite:
"All furnished, all in arms;
All plumed like estridges that with the wind
Bated like eagles having lately bathed;
Glittering in golden coats like images;
As full of spirit as the month of May
And gorgeous as the sun at midsummer;
Wanton as youthful goats, wild as young bulls,
I saw young AngryTroll with his deck sleaved,
His dice in his hand, gallantly armed,
Rise from the bench like feathered Mercury,
And vaulted with such ease into his seat
As if an angel dropped down from the clouds
To turn and wind a fiery Pegasus
And witch the world with noble cardsmanship."
Pinder: "Well, I cannot compete with the likes of him. Here, good sir, have the match slip."
Peter Rotten: Where did I find that quote? +5 English Teacher points if you can identify it.
Pinder
11-30-2007, 02:20 AM
"All furnished, all in arms;
All plumed like estridges that with the wind
Bated like eagles having lately bathed;
Glittering in golden coats like images;
As full of spirit as the month of May
And gorgeous as the sun at midsummer;
Wanton as youthful goats, wild as young bulls,
I saw young AngryTroll with his deck sleaved,
His dice in his hand, gallantly armed,
Rise from the bench like feathered Mercury,
And vaulted with such ease into his seat
As if an angel dropped down from the clouds
To turn and wind a fiery Pegasus
And witch the world with noble cardsmanship."
That's some thread winnery right there.
If only you played magic that well :tongue:
DeathwingZERO
11-30-2007, 03:08 AM
No kidding. The only match I lost to Don was when Belcher shat in my face with Spoils for 21 damage.
I also remember a certain someone losing EVERY win condition they had to a very well timed Brain Freeze out of of the SB in response to a Decree of Justice and then just racing the tokens.
Ouch. History lessons like that must be rough on you.
AngryTroll
11-30-2007, 04:07 AM
We have only played matches a few times. We went over this last time we played. I think I have played....two matches against you since I would consider myself a "good" player. One with Landstill lately, where I lost fair and square (but a very close match), and maybe once against you at your store with thresh.
I do remember testing against you at your store several times when I crushed your stupid belcher deck with Thresh. Over and over and over and over again.
DeathwingZERO
11-30-2007, 09:26 AM
Actually Belcher had been disassembled long before I got the second store. At that point you probably would have been testing against either Deadguy Ale, Solidarity, or IGGy Pop using a very dated list. And ya, IGGy had very bad matchups against Thresh, but that was also back when it maindecked Stifles and wasn't so reliant on Counterbalance.
If I was going to be getting into any combo decks at this point, it'd be TES or Ichorid. But with so many people playing their stupid U/G/x variants of any kind, I'm just gonna go back to the basics to beat them.
EDIT: And I haven't ever considered myself good, lol. I'm a much better trader and dealer than player.
frogboy
11-30-2007, 02:50 PM
Don: Iliad?
Ryan: Have we ever actually played a match of Legacy?
AngryTroll
11-30-2007, 03:49 PM
Iliad: Nope.
Now, do you mean have you and Ryan ever played a good match of Legacy? Because in that case, the answer is clearly no.
DeathwingZERO
12-01-2007, 01:02 AM
Don: Iliad?
Ryan: Have we ever actually played a match of Legacy?
Ya, there's been a few. Not many, but I'd say probably 2 at AU and 1 or 2 at AW. Other than that it was pretty much Vintage at AW. And I think I'm still the top player there as far as wins are concerned. You guys just fail at playing Broken.
You and Don to this day are the only two I was able to get FCG to actually combo out against.
Also, there was the match between you playing GAT and myself playing Tog, and I had to topdeck the Cunning Wish that would Berserk me past your two rather stupidly large Dryads for the win. I think to this day that's the largest I've gotten Tog in a tournament game.
Now, do you mean have you and Ryan ever played a good match of Legacy? Because in that case, the answer is clearly no.
And that's just funny. Isn't Goblins your BEST matchup playing 4c Lanstill? Ya, that's what I thought :p
At least I had to think about how I was going to get around the two Dryads. All I had to do was drop and swing against you.
AngryTroll
12-01-2007, 02:31 AM
Two Dryads? Four Color? You basically don't have any clue what is going on, do you?
Three colors, with no Deeds. Yeah, not so hot. And no Dryads. Where did you get that idea? Seriously...where did Landstill play Dryad?
Pinder
12-01-2007, 02:40 AM
So, because certain people are bums and copouts, it might just be me and Brian on Sunday. And maybe Jay, if he can swing it. But definitely me and Brian.
So Don actually does have a chance at playing everyone in my car before he scrubs out :tongue:.
AngryTroll
12-01-2007, 03:56 AM
Hmm...if Scrubs is great on TV, and I "Scrub" out of a tournament, does that mean I smash face?
'Cause I will.
Pinder
12-01-2007, 03:59 AM
Hmm...if Scrubs is great on TV, and I "Scrub" out of a tournament, does that mean I smash face?
Well...no.
DeathwingZERO
12-01-2007, 06:12 AM
Hmm...if Scrubs is great on TV, and I "Scrub" out of a tournament, does that mean I smash face?
'Cause I will.
No. And only Hulk smashes face.
And the reference to the Dryads was playing against Froggie, not you. Man, now I don't even have to make an effort to get jokes to go over your head *zing*
And why the hell would you only be playing UGW Landstill? You've already killed your manabase playing the deck, why not go further in for Deed, Edict and Duress/Thoughtseize? That's just bad.
Won't be able to make this. I are mad. Too much stuff going on in the season of joy. Anyways, make sure you all take good notes and write long reports like Bardo usually does. I should make the next one because all of this stuff will be over. Will it be like the first Sunday in January Volt? I will be there most likely if it is.
Pinder
12-01-2007, 03:48 PM
Anyways, make sure you all take good notes and write long reports like Bardo usually does.
I came into a digital camera recently, so you can even expect pictures man. Even some video on YouTube if there's something truly awesome going on. Maybe I'll tape th finals.
OMG! That would be truly awesome. Do it. I will scoop to you if we ever play together next month!
Pinder
12-01-2007, 07:21 PM
OMG! That would be truly awesome. Do it. I will scoop to you if we ever play together next month!
This is good, because if I recall correctly you beat me last time we played. Landstill = no good for Slivers.
Also, latest update! It's snowing in Seattle! More news to come when we find out if I can get out of my driveway tomorrow!
This is good, because if I recall correctly you beat me last time we played. Landstill = no good for Slivers.
Also, latest update! It's snowing in Seattle! More news to come when we find out if I can get out of my driveway tomorrow!
Nope. I have never played you. The only tournament I remember being at with you was last month when I was playing TES.
It would still be good for you because I was going to play my version of Truffle Shuffle, which also is no good for slivers.
Pinder
12-01-2007, 08:24 PM
Nope. I have never played you. The only tournament I remember being at with you was last month when I was playing TES.
It would still be good for you because I was going to play my version of Truffle Shuffle, which also is no good for slivers.
Oh. Right, it was LinkXWing I lost to.
And yeah, Truffle Shuffle's no good for slivers either.
edit - Latest update! Here's what my bus stop looked like when I got to it after work (nevermind the date, I need to set it):
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/Pindarius/Snow/PHOT0028.jpg
My car:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/Pindarius/Snow/PHOT0025.jpg
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/Pindarius/Snow/PHOT0024.jpg
Inside my car:
http://i159.photobucket.com/albums/t124/Pindarius/Snow/PHOT0027.jpg
I ended up stopping at a friends house because I literally could not see. This is partly because of the raging snow and partly because I need new windshield wipers. I'm there now, updates to come.
So this will all melt by tomorrow morning, right? Hopefully?
DeathwingZERO
12-01-2007, 10:47 PM
Out here we've been getting rain/snow mix, and tomorrow is supposed to be heavy winds and rain.
Are people still planning on showing up to this? I need to know for sure whether or not I need to make an early trip up there to grab some cards from friends in the area.
Bardo
12-01-2007, 10:52 PM
Barring some apocalypse or worse, I'll still be there.
On second thought -- let's see what the weather's like tomorrow. The news is all doom & gloom -- what else is new?
Pinder
12-01-2007, 10:57 PM
The news is all doom & gloom -- what else is new?
Yeah. I mean, as long as it's stopped snowing tomorrow I should probably be able to make it. But if it keeps up like this, or if the freeway freezes over tonight, I might not be able to go anywhere tomorrow. At least not until it melts a little. Maybe I'll come late and just hang out. Plus, Bardo, I printed a foil 'Teh Bardage' card at work today. It's totally pimp, if a little off center (printer shift is a bitch, and I was rushed). Either way, it's a foil misprint, amirite? Gotta be worth something.
AngryTroll
12-01-2007, 11:15 PM
Oh, look, how convinient. "The weather! That's why I won't be there tomorrow for you to smash!"
Pinder
12-01-2007, 11:34 PM
Oh, look, how convinient. "The weather! That's why I won't be there tomorrow for you to smash!"
Is that the excuse you're using? Whatever helps you sleep at night, I guess.
Bardo
12-02-2007, 12:20 AM
Plus, Bardo, I printed a foil 'Teh Bardage' card at work today. It's totally pimp, if a little off center (printer shift is a bitch, and I was rushed).
You're awesome. Thanks. :)
It'll be cool to meet you, if Mother Nature cooperates.
Pinder
12-02-2007, 01:53 AM
It'll be cool to meet you, if Mother Nature cooperates.
Yeah...maybe God just really likes dinner parties (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showpost.php?p=181191&postcount=72).
Update - It's not snowing anymore, but there's still, you know, snow out there. Let's hope it melts enough for me to drive tomorrow morning.
I really hope you can make it, but use good judgment. It's just a card game.
Assuming the roads are good, I will buy dinner after the tournament (at Burgerville or Red Robin or some place like that) for all Seattlites who make it down to the tournament. I'm feeling magnanimous because I just got my job back this week, after being laid off for 3.5 months. :smile:
Pinder
12-02-2007, 03:54 AM
Assuming the roads are good, I will buy dinner after the tournament (at Burgerville or Red Robin or some place like that) for all Seattlites who make it down to the tournament. I'm feeling magnanimous because I just got my job back this week, after being laid off for 3.5 months. :smile:
Grats, and many thanks. I'll make it if at all possible.
xsockmonkeyx
12-02-2007, 03:57 AM
I'm feeling magnanimous because I just got my job back this week, after being laid off for 3.5 months. :smile:
Did the DNA evidence against you come back negative or something? Ive lost all faith in modern forensics. :frown:
Did the DNA evidence against you come back negative or something? Ive lost all faith in modern forensics. :frown:
It "disappeared" from the evidence room. heh heh.
Sorry to say that I'll be missing all of you- I've been looking forward to this for a month or two now, but sadly my 8am monday final says that I won't be able to attend as I have to use all my time and mental energy memorizing the names and various degrees of relevance for a great number of 19th century court cases. And as much fun as the game of Magic is, who could resist such a sweet temptation? I do hope turnout is good though, and may the random person playing a deck with coin-flip related cards win.
DeathwingZERO
12-02-2007, 07:13 AM
Well, it's 4am, and I spent the better part of today (yesterday) bedridden from being awesome and dehydrating myself severely. So I'm probably going to pull the same shift I did last time, and push an all nighter into the day. I have to come up to Vancouver early anyways to make a stop at a buddies shop to get some trades before I go.
Hopefully the weather will be good, as this time I'm playing a deck I know, and it requires a bit less thought :p
EDIT: However the 15 card sideboard is still COMPLETELY up in the air. That's how we do things.
Pinder
12-02-2007, 10:22 AM
and may the random person playing a deck with coin-flip related cards win.
Only if it has the 1 maindeck Eternal Dragon.
edit - Update: So, Brian is either unable or unwilling to go at this point because of the weather, which is admittedly crappy. Not snowing anymore, but the roads are shitty. I'm not sure I really want to make the 3-hour (or more) drive in the snow alone now, so if you see me, yay, if not, oh well. God loves dinner parties, I guess.
edit - Update: So, Brian is either unable or unwilling to go at this point because of the weather, which is admittedly crappy. Not snowing anymore, but the roads are shitty. I'm not sure I really want to make the 3-hour (or more) drive in the snow alone now, so if you see me, yay, if not, oh well. God loves dinner parties, I guess.
Bummer. Understandable, though. Hopefully, we'll see you at the next one (sometime in January).
Pinder
12-02-2007, 12:00 PM
Bummer. Understandable, though. Hopefully, we'll see you at the next one (sometime in January).
Yeah, and it just started snowing again. Nature hates geeks.
Bardo
12-02-2007, 12:37 PM
So, is this going to be on the tournaments when everyone makes the T8 just for showing up? If you know what I mean.
So, is this going to be on the tournaments when everyone makes the T8 just for showing up? If you know what I mean.
I think we're going to get 12-16 people, believe it or not. Probably 4 rounds, cut to top 4.
Since Pinder might not make it, would anyone be willing to bring their video recorders and film the final match? I think it would be really cool to have a video of Legacy out there, because it could inspire more people to do it.
Since Pinder might not make it, would anyone be willing to bring their video recorders and film the final match? I think it would be really cool to have a video of Legacy out there, because it could inspire more people to do it.
Well, chances are there won't even be a "final match." Usually the top 2 or 4 just split.
Well, the person could film the top 4/8 or something. Just film the more interesting match.
AngryTroll
12-02-2007, 01:48 PM
There won't be an interesting match- Just a long succession of me smashing everyone else. But if you want a video of that, sure, film away!
Pinder
12-02-2007, 02:21 PM
Either way, keep me posted on what's happening. I want the play by play if I can't be there, guys.
frogboy
12-02-2007, 04:48 PM
I'm pretty sure waking up at noon thirty was by far the strongest play made today.
Pinder
12-02-2007, 07:41 PM
I'm pretty sure waking up at noon thirty was by far the strongest play made today.
Hardy har.
Seriously guys, who's winning? How many people? I'm dyin' out here.
An even more disappointing turnout than last time. People who as recently as last night and even this morning said they were going to show didn't show. You know who you are, fuckers. (EDIT: Just to be a clear, Pinder and Jak are not included in my wrath)
Also, the fact that there was some huge Pokemon tourney going on simultaneously (a fact the shop-owner neglected to mention when I asked him if this weekend was available) made for a chaotic and somewhat suffocating play environment.
11 people showed up to play, but 2 bailed out at the last minute because it was a "waste of time." So, 9 of us played it out. We played 4 rounds, no cut. Here's the standings:
Top 4
1) 4-0, Witch-Maw Landstill, Dan Spero (Bardo)
2) 3-1, UGW Thresh w/CounterTop, Don Bruss (AngryTroll)
3) 3-1, UWb Countersliver w/CounterTop, Chris Lennon (Volt)
4) 2-2, Cephalid Breakfast, Nick Colpron (Nightshade81)
The rest of the field:
Rg Goblins
Angel Stompy
Red Stax
Red Lando (Land Destruction)
Burn
Honestly, I'm very disappointed. What do I have to do to get people to fucking show up and play Legacy? Sigh.
It is disappointing. I think most of it was the weather and the fact that the holidays are coming. January will be a lot less hectic and hopefully there will be a good turnout. The last few tourneys ahve been at rough times. But hopefully the next month, the Seattle guys can come down and more people will make it if the weather is nice.
Is anyone else planning on writing a report?
DeathwingZERO
12-02-2007, 11:29 PM
I actually almost made it. Around 9am whatever the fuck I have caught back up with me though, and put me into a constant state of nausea. I swear if I have to run to the bathroom to shit water (literally) again I'm just going to call this Ebola and get it over with. Oh well, this is my time of the year to get sick, and it'll be over with soon enough.
My apologies to all who did show up. I even had the morning planned out so I could meet up with my buddy after he was at church to get the cards from him in order to play.
Also, I love how Troll was talkin big game against Thresh and Slivers, then switched decks at the last minute. I LOL'd.
EDIT: Who the hell bails out on an 11 man event because it's "a waste of time". If your confident in your deck and hit a straight shot your up $45 in cash for about 5 hours of play. Seems good to me. Were they playing some kind of Lorwyn release deck?
I actually almost made it. Around 9am whatever the fuck I have caught back up with me though, and put me into a constant state of nausea. I swear if I have to run to the bathroom to shit water (literally) again I'm just going to call this Ebola and get it over with. Oh well, this is my time of the year to get sick, and it'll be over with soon enough.
My apologies to all who did show up. I even had the morning planned out so I could meet up with my buddy after he was at church to get the cards from him in order to play.
Also, I love how Troll was talkin big game against Thresh and Slivers, then switched decks at the last minute. I LOL'd.
EDIT: Who the hell bails out on an 11 man event because it's "a waste of time". If your confident in your deck and hit a straight shot your up $45 in cash for about 5 hours of play. Seems good to me. Were they playing some kind of Lorwyn release deck?
It was our friend from Beaverton/Aloha and his poker-playing friend who likes to play Battle of Wits.
DeathwingZERO
12-02-2007, 11:42 PM
Wow, what asstards.
I could understand Joe-the-pussy copping out like that, but Brett hasn't played a serious game of Magic in months, and didn't even call me the entire week to tell me he was showing up anyways.
And I'm pretty sure their idea of "not wasting time" was hitting shit tournaments at Stars that are free play with no prizes. Or hitting the Copper Monkey and hopefully breaking even on a $100 buy in table with actual poker sharks playing.
Ya, I'll take the $45 in cash, thanks.
EDIT: And so much for their identities, heh.
EDIT2: Oh, and was it Mike that fucked up and didn't tell you about the Pokemon tournament on that day? Seems rather odd for him to pull something like that, since they have event schedules on the walls all month.
EDIT2: Oh, and was it Mike that fucked up and didn't tell you about the Pokemon tournament on that day? Seems rather odd for him to pull something like that, since they have event schedules on the walls all month.
Yeah, somehow Mike forgot all about the Pokemon tournament until someone called him last night. It was scheduled like 2 months ago, but he never put it up on the board and it slipped his mind. There must have been 50+ kiddies in there all afternoon. It was brutally hot and stuffy in there, and table space was at a premium.
DeathwingZERO
12-03-2007, 12:10 AM
Nothing like fighting off little pokefanatics for some table space. Been there before.
Though I'm deeply saddened at the fact that there were so many kids for Pokemon, and nobody plays Magic. You'd figure the game has run it's course, there's no more ways to win than sweeping your opponents benched Pokemon.
Damn kids shows. I bet if Magic had a show where Urza or someone had to go around collecting their spells, it'd go over real well too.
EDIT: Oh, and if anyone wants to do some playtesting, I really don't have much to do during my days right now, since trying to get a decent job is like pulling teeth. So hit me up on PM so you can get my number. Ancient Wonders, Shari's, and Dennys are all places I tend to frequent for that, so I can meet up pretty much anywhere in the Beaverton area.
Pinder
12-03-2007, 12:33 AM
(EDIT: Just to be a clear, Pinder and Jak are not included in my wrath)
Thanks, there were times last night when I thought my death was imminent.
Also, the fact that there was some huge Pokemon tourney going on simultaneously (a fact the shop-owner neglected to mention when I asked him if this weekend was available) made for a chaotic and somewhat suffocating play environment.
Aw, fuck. Pokemon? Fuck.
11 people showed up to play, but 2 bailed out at the last minute because it was a "waste of time." So, 9 of us played it out. We played 4 rounds, no cut. Here's the standings:
Top 4
1) 4-0, Witch-Maw Landstill, Dan Spero (Bardo)
2) 3-1, UGW Thresh w/CounterTop, Don Bruss (AngryTroll)
3) 3-1, UWb Countersliver w/CounterTop, Chris Lennon (Volt)
4) 2-2, Cephalid Breakfast, Nick Colpron (Nightshade81)
Grats on T4...again. Seriously, we need more people to show up so people will take Slivers seriously. Also, I like how Bardo just keeps naming landstill after creatures with the colors he's playing. When he pushes 5c, I demand it be called Queenstill :tongue:.
The rest of the field:
Rg Goblins
Angel Stompy
Red Stax
Red Lando (Land Destruction)
Burn
Honestly, I'm very disappointed. What do I have to do to get people to fucking show up and play Legacy? Sigh.
Reverse nature?
Honestly though, 2 people bailed on me because this was finals week, 1 bailed because he had sudden plans, and myself and Brian bailed because of the weather. Hopefully, if all goes well and people aren't wimps, I can have 5 people from Seattle next time. I wouldn't hold my breath, but so far at least 3 of us are dead set on January (barring sudden mini-blizzards, of course).
jeremys
12-03-2007, 02:40 AM
I was actually thinking about going this week but my girlfriend got us tickets to the trans-siberian orchestra, which I just got back from and was freakin awesome. She's been talking about possibly wanting to play magic again one of these days (apparently she used to play a little before I met her) so depending on which weekend the next tournament is we may be there.
AngryTroll
12-03-2007, 02:42 AM
Introduction
Finals Week? Bah! Radiation Protection Monday, Thermodynamics Tuesday, Science and Religion Thursday, Shakespeare Friday morning, and Neutronics Friday at noon. And I drove up from Corvallis.
The weather was terribly crappy. Chris picked me up, and then we picked up Nick (Nightshade with Cephalid Breakfast) and Abe (unregged with red Stax). We walked into Batcave just as this judge yells (YELLS) "WHO WANTS TO PLAY!!!!!?" And 55 little kids screamed "WEEEEEEEEEE DOOOOOO!!!!!!" I tried to turn around and walk out the door, but was stopped by the momentum of Chris, Abe, and Nick.
On a side note, I believe the real reason that Brett and Joe left had to do with the presence of so many minors and the lack of 200 yards of separation, if you catch my drift.
Anyway, we got one and a half long tables, enough space for 12 people or so. It was awesome. Someone actually had to leave to go get more chairs. It was about 450 degrees in there, which was lucky, because if they had crammed a single additional 9 year old in there, all of our cards would have burst into flame. Even the water pokemon.
The Deck
Here's what I was playing. It's my standard UGW Thresh list, with mainboard Counterbalance/Top, which is amazing. Seriously. I also love Counterspell mainboard, although that does not seem to be popular.
4 Nimble Mongeese
4 Goyf
2 Enforcer
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
3 Predict
3 Divining Top
2 Pithing Needle
3 Counterbalance
3 Daze
2 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Flooded Strand
1 Polluted Delta (Couldn't find a third Windswept Heath for some reason)
2 Windswept Heath
1 Forest
2 Island
4 Tropical Island
4 Tundra
Sideboard:
4 Hydroblast (boarded in twice)
3 Engineered Explosives (boarded in against Slivers)
2 Vedalkin Shackles (For Thresh, but boarded against Bardo)
2 Krosan Grip
3 Armageddon
1 Mystic Enforcer (boarded in every match)
The deck is great for me. It often feels creature light, and can struggle to get to Threshold, but its very solid. The third Enforcer was the most commonly boarded card, usually for Dazes against good players, but for Pithing Needle if it wasn't needed. Counterspell main gives the deck answers to PDeed, Wrath, Fact or Fiction, Tog, Exalted Angel, and a lot of other cards that Daze and Counterbalance do not handle.
Lately I've been looking for another creature to run alongside the Goyfs, but there really isn't another one worth it. Werebear doesn't cut it anymore, a third Enforcer is too many main, Dryad isn't amazing in the Counterbalance build, Counterbalance seems stronger than Mage, and the list goes on. One card that at least looked interesting was Stonecloaker, as it saves Goyf from Swords, removes LftL from opposing yards, flies over Goyfs, and doesn't rely on the graveyard. Unfortunately, it costs three for a 3/2 that requires a Goyf in play to cast. That alone rules it as cute, but terrible.
If the Seattle Crew had made it, I was strongly considering running RGBSA wiht 4 Thoughtsieze, 3 Therapy for disruption, 4 Darkheart Sliver and 2 Plague Slivers main, along with 2 Magus of the Moon and 2 Loaming Shaman to go with the Shriekmaws and Goyfs. Darkheart Sliver has proved very solid even when I'm not playing against Slivers, so making room for a couple of extras if I expect two or three sliver decks to be present is perfectly reasonable. In fact, with Goblins and two burn decks, that would have been very solid today with only one sliver deck. 2 Plague Sliver main is just awesome.
The Tournament
So with a tremendous 9 people, we began. And, to make the day better, Chris and I played first round. I lost game one to a weak draw, but game two could not have physically gone any better for me. Counterbalance came down, Goyfs appeared on top of my deck, and I ended up playing something like 2 Geese, 2 Goyfs, and 2 Mystic Enforcers. One Enforcer and a few Goyfs went farming, but with a second Enforcer, the life gain was enough for me to crush the race. I also managed to topdeck a Force to savagely counter the Swords that would have finished my last Enforcer. Basically, I am amazing at topdecking my way out of bad spots against Chris. (Cue foreshadowing) Game three was close, but I managed to win it on the back of Goyfs. During one game (I think it was game three), Chris had a Hibernation and Crystalline Sliver in play. He first returned Crystalline to his hand for two life, then attempted to return the Hibernation to avoid dying to the Goyf damage they had both been assigned. I let him pay two life, then Swords the sliver. He paid two more life, and I Swords' it again. He ended up letting it go, and the damage race ended up being extremely close.
Next round I played against some sort of monored burn/land destruction deck. Game one, I hardcast a Daze to stop an Avalance Rider on turn three (off of Sandstone Needle), then went to town with Goyfs. Game two, I sided in Hydroblasts. I almost lost this game to a second turn Magus of the Moon, again off of Sandstone Needle. I was tapped out for a Top and when the Magus came down, and realized that I was in trouble. Luckily, a Hydroblast floated to the top of the deck to pair with the basic Island in play to put me back in the game. From there Goyfs carried the day.
Round Three was against Bardo. He took better notes than I did, so he can correct this if it's wrong, but the general idea is accurate. Bardo mulliganed game one and two, if I recall correctly. Game one involved 3 Ponders and a Brainstorm by the fourth turn, and then four successive Goyfs, a Mongoose, and a Mystic Enforcer to smash face. Game two was a brutal face smashing, involving massive card advantage from my mulliganing, Fact or Fiction, his Goyf, and Engineeree Explosives. Brutal. Game three was very close, but I could not pull it together. I had an opening for Mystic Enforcer or Armageddon to go the distance, but drew lots of land. (If I could topdeck against other players, besides Chris, the way I topdeck against Chris, I'd be unstoppable. This happens all the time in testing, too) The turning point of the game was Bardo drawing a black source for Deed and blowing up Needle, Goose, and Goyf. It's a lose-lose for me...I need to apply pressure to race, but can't over-extend.
I made a few bad play mistakes in this match. First of all, against Bardo, a champion of Threshold, I sided out Counterbalance instead of Daze. Duh. The testing I have done against Landstill did not include Goyfs, so I was unimpressed with Counterbalance. Against Bardo's list, however, CB was pretty strong. My bad. Second, with a Top in play, I found a Ponder during my main phase. For some reason, I flipped Top, cast Ponder, then drew the Top and replayed it. I am going to blame 55 Poke-kids for distracting me or something. I was trying to dig a card deeper to try and exploit the opening I had, but obviously should have waited a turn to shuffle. Third, Bardo managed to make a mistake and tap one factory to activate the other and swing into a Goose. However, I made the same mistake he did, and assumed it was a 3/3 and did not block it. Fourth, and probably the worst, I Pithing Needled Mishra's Factory instead of Deed/EE in the third game. He had two Factories in play, and I had counters in hand, but I should have Needled Deed and kept digging for an Armageddon, using my dudes on defense and saving the coutners to try to force through a Geddon.
Last round, I played against Burn. Game one, a turn two Counterbalance countered lots of burn spells (including two that cost two on the same turn. That was awesome). Game two, an Aether Vial helped me dig, Goyfs put on pressure, and Hydroblasts, Counterspells, and a Force countered infinite Magma Jets to try and keep him from finding Price of Progress and Fireblast. I swung for 15 on a single turn with three Goyfs and a Mongoose after killing all of his Fanatics.
Conclusion
Well, I am still looking for another creature for the deck. Counterbalance/Top was excellent in two matchups, and good in the other two. Shackels didn't do anything, but I didn't play the mirror. Overall, even though the turnout was low and there were a million Pokemon players, there was a lot of good Legacy played.
I got second and $25 in credit, which picked up a playset of Shriekmaws and a bunch of random stuff. I was looking for fetches, duals, PDeeds, Magi of the Moon, and assorted goodstuff, but the store was pretty picked over. There were Thoughsiezes and Garruuks for $25, but I needed the Shriekmaws, and I grabbed a Gaddock Teeg for $10.
Props:
Goyf, etc etc. Stupid crazy good card.
Counterbalance, ditto
Hydroblasts for being great all day, when they almost didn't go in the SB
Chris for driving
The Seattle crew, for attempting to come
Chris, for letting me borrow a Shackles, that came down against Bardo's Goyf. And suddenly the 3/4 Goyf that I could take went to a 5/6 that I could not.
The Pokemon Judge, that did a pretty good job of maintaining order among 55 kids, average age of 12 or so. Maybe lower.
Slops:
The weather
Pokemon
The two guys that didn't come for some reason (Trevor and friend?)
The two guys that left (Joe and Brett)
Ebola
Frogboy, Zilla, etc for not representing
On the other hand, Bardo killing Zilla might have been traumatizing for all of the little kids
Mike for forgetting about the Pokemon playing kids.
DeathwingZERO
12-03-2007, 02:48 AM
I agree, slops to ebola. I mean for christs sake, that tournament setup looked like nearly the perfect layout to test my concoction. Goddamnit.
Oh, and I'm thinking of stealing Brett's cards from him. Seeing as he never plays, I'm sure he won't need them. Anybody want dibs on his non-foil non-blue stuff? $D
Conclusion
Well, I am still looking for another creature for the deck. Counterbalance/Top was excellent in two matchups, and good in the other two. Shackels didn't do anything, but I didn't play the mirror. Overall, even though the turnout was low and there were a million Pokemon players, there was a lot of good Legacy played.
A good creature for the slot would be Sea Drake. Serendib would work awesome too.
The tourney sounded totally awesome. Hopefully next month will have less Pokemon and more Magical card players. I plan to be there and dominate the field with board control.
frogboy
12-03-2007, 05:30 PM
Why are you boarding Shackles in against the control deck? You actually can't win going long; just run out two guys and make him show you removal, then do it again, then see if he can counter Armageddon, guy. If he can, well, it wasn't your day.
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