The French Source

[Peter_Rotten]

Here's a link to a French forum (http://www.legacy-france.com/index.php?act=idx) focused on Legacy. I don't know if any of you mono-lingual, xenophobic Americans will find it useful, but you may, at least, find it interesting. I was pleasantly surprised to see that they discussed Anwar's article. (http://www.legacy-france.com/Articles-f44.html) I even think that they may have liked it (why didn't I pay attention in my language classes?).

edit - they do have 567 members. Anyone feel like doing any quick, relevant, or random translations of anything important on the site?

[Holo_rip]

Well, tell me what you want to translate in english, and i will be pleased to do so.

Holo.

[Nightmare]

Well, tell me what you want to translate in english, and i will be pleased to do so.

Holo.The site.

[Puzzle]

The site."Le site."

[DeathwingZERO]

The site.

LOL

It almost would have been better coming from P_R, cause then it would have sounded like a homework assignment.

I'd like to know what they've got as "DTB", if they have a section for that. It's always interesting to see what top decks are around the world.

[Belgareth]

LOL

I'd like to know what they've got as "DTB", if they have a section for that. It's always interesting to see what top decks are around the world.

Goblins,Pikula, Faerie stompy,Belcher, Threshold (R,W and 4 colour), Aluren and Iggy pop.

[Nightmare]

You could click the link and figure it out...

French isn't that structurally different from English. It's pretty easy to "Frenglish" your way through it.

[Holo_rip]

The site.
Well, hum, this won't be quick...
Legacy France is a french site for Legacy.
It describ very well the metagame that we have in paris (because, well, as far as i know, nearly all member that really participate to this site live in Paris).
We have tournament announcement, tournament report, a trading part, a mish mash part, a DTB part, a part with deck of the metagame, a part with devellopment and others.
You can find really good information on this site. We have some people wich are specialist in some archetype (ASSASSIN for goblin, Lejay for life wich is a really competitive deck when tuned like lejay's deck, Yamaelle for FS, and others..).

This is a quick summary of what is what is Legacy France (yeah, well, some guys of the site may have another point of view for sure).

Holo.

[Maveric78f]

Actually, there should be Life too. It's dominating (or was maybe) our format. But as it's a single player having success with that, it wasn't included.

The list of decks to beat has not been actualized since Tarmogoyf except for including all the threshold versions.

[Zach Tartell]

Fuck this shit, they have Enchantress in N&D.

Also, I googled myself like three weeks ago and found my name on Enchantress threads on like six sites, two German ones, and one that appreared to be a tournament report of mine translated.

[Holo_rip]

Fuck this shit, they have Enchantress in N&D.

Also, I googled myself like three weeks ago and found my name on Enchantress threads on like six sites, two German ones, and one that appreared to be a tournament report of mine translated.
Care, as far as i know, this are weird enchantress build with MD cloud of faerie, crucible or even candelabra and trade routes.
It is very different from the build you use to run.

Holo.

[Eldariel]

They've got another Eldariel in the forums. The bastards. To make matters more confusing, I've been mentioned a few times in the Faerie Stompy-thread as well. The first time I've signed up for a forum and had my nick taken. But the post quality looks rather high by an overview and there's a number of knowledgable people there. I'm also fairly sure their DTB-forum reflects the French metagame, since when Worlds was in Paris, the Legacy side event had two Faerie Stompy-builds in the Top 8, so it's clearly played more there than in States or even Germany. I don't know about Italy though.

Interesting as it is, Toad posts in those forums as well. It appears Aluren has historically done very well in France, which might be part of the reason why he's spent so much energy advertising it to the rest of the world.

[freakish777]

The site.

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159 2 471 Today, 17:19
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DEBATES on the métagame, a deck, a chart, a situation of play or any other theoretical object.
57 1 379 Monday October 29, 2007 To 17:13
In : To kill a manland
By : elboiteu

Casual/Budget
For those which do not wish too much to invest or play simply to have fun without catch of head and handing-over in constant question.
21 418 Friday October 05, 2007 To 14:20
In : weeny white
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Articles
Forum which counts all the good general articles or on Legacy, with reading to progress or refining its playskill.
19 156 Saturday October 27, 2007 To 20:29
In : [ Legacy ] Eternal Life
By : Lejay

Files
Serious discussions on the Legacy format (Standard 1.5) and in particular on the decks having proven reliable in competition.
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Various discussions on Legacy-France, Magic the Parliament and all that has a bond with the latter. No the policy here.
77 1 161 Friday October 19, 2007 To 23:18
In : Shahrazad Good-bye!
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Carry out A Nothing
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55 1 261 Monday October 29, 2007 To 21:01
In : Mws And Soldiers
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Babel Fish allows you to translate entire sites. If you have both the (terribly) translated into english page open and the untranslated page open, and have an IQ higher than 5 (clearly Advertisements = Announcements, Carryforwards = Reports, Carry Out A Nothing = Talk About Anything [I think this is a French specific phrase, Rien means nothing/anything]), you should be able to piece together everything that's going on (also a French to English dictionary that doesn't suck helps, I suggest http://www.wordreference.com/).

[Volt]

http://babelfish.altavista.com/

Use the "Translate a web page option." It ain't perfect, but it gets you most of the way there.

[Maveric78f]

They've got another Eldariel in the forums. The bastards. To make matters more confusing, I've been mentioned a few times in the Faerie Stompy-thread as well. The first time I've signed up for a forum and had my nick taken. But the post quality looks rather high by an overview and there's a number of knowledgable people there. I'm also fairly sure their DTB-forum reflects the French metagame, since when Worlds was in Paris, the Legacy side event had two Faerie Stompy-builds in the Top 8, so it's clearly played more there than in States or even Germany. I don't know about Italy though.

You are quoted a lot I think. There is no Eldariel in this forum or I've never seen him.


Interesting as it is, Toad posts in those forums as well. It appears Aluren has historically done very well in France, which might be part of the reason why he's spent so much energy advertising it to the rest of the world.

I would say that it's more the contrary. Toad always speaking about Aluren has triggered the popularity of this deck. As well as for Psychatog.

[Eldariel]

There is an Eldariel registered; I made an account for the forum so I could use the search function (my French isn't fluent, but I can speak it passably, so I could even participate in conversations should that become somehow relevant) and Eldariel was taken. I also searched for the name and saw some references to the nick which I don't think were regarding me. All I saw that guy having made though was posting some weird Goblin Sligh-deck, having posted a grand total of 2 posts and being French.

And regarding Toad, that sounds just as possible. I could imagine him being very influential since while he is arrogant, he is also quite knowledgable in a multitude of issues.

[DeathwingZERO]

You should totally contact admins and get the name back, he's obviously tarnishing your reputation over there :D

Weird that Pikula is still doing well out there. I haven't heard it make a blip in a long time, since Goblins started being able to play around E. Plagues. Wonder if there's some tech they've got going on that site for it.

[APriestOfGix]

all of you are noob, learn the internets!!!


http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.legacy-france.com%2Findex.php%3Fact%3Didx&langpair=fr%7Cen&hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools


go to goggle, and have it translate the entire site for you, and browse as normal...


LOL!


Edit: although doing so come some funny translations...


Depending on the version chosen, adding several can be made: dark confidant, cabal therapy, pithing needle, chromatic sphere, terrarion, cylix mana, 4th orni, 4th argousin, 3rd armor, big furnace, tree stories, the seat of the synod, nexus the scintimites, plant mishra, 3rd empty bright, shining salvo of shells, lightning, fire / ice ...


Edit 2: Just made an account, this should be fun trying to post...

[Tacosnape]

I think I'll go over there, write a post, translate it into some language like Portuguese or Dutch (Or half and half!), untranslate some of the words so I'm speaking in half-english and half Dutchuguese, and post.

I'd try to actually make quality posts over there, but I can't even make people on this source understand me.

[APriestOfGix]

I think I'll go over there, write a post, translate it into some language like Portuguese or Dutch (Or half and half!), untranslate some of the words so I'm speaking in half-english and half Dutchuguese, and post.

I'd try to actually make quality posts over there, but I can't even make people on this source understand me.

lol, umm, ok...

[Skinny Oprah]

I think I'll go over there, write a post, translate it into some language like Portuguese or Dutch (Or half and half!), untranslate some of the words so I'm speaking in half-english and half Dutchuguese, and post.

I'd try to actually make quality posts over there, but I can't even make people on this source understand me.

This. Is. Brilliant.

[Atwa]

I think I'll go over there, write a post, translate it into some language like Portuguese or Dutch (Or half and half!), untranslate some of the words so I'm speaking in half-english and half Dutchuguese, and post.

I'd try to actually make quality posts over there, but I can't even make people on this source understand me.

Need help on the Dutch part?

[etrigan]

It's like looking at yourself in a mirror. A French-tinted mirror.

One thing I liked: Their MishMash forums is named 'Mene a rien', or 'Leads to Nothing'. Very apt description.

[Nihil Credo]

It's like looking at yourself in a mirror. A French-tinted mirror.

Indeed. They even have an MWS Stupidity thread (although it's in Mish-Mash).

We could borrow the idea of a separate Casual/Budget subforum. Perhaps it's just me, but for some reason I've always found budget and casual threads in the N&D forum a little awkward.

[revenge_inc]

I think it's funny how legacy is going strong in france yet their tournaments never make it to the Historical Top 8. This month there were two tournaments in the Paris area, one with 45 people, the other with 46.

[Nihil Credo]

If no-one reports them, you can't expect them to magically show up.

[Peter_Rotten]

If no-one reports them, you can't expect them to magically show up.

Agreed. Plus we need the T8 lists. Did you see if they post them or not?

[Pinder]

Awww, no Countersliver :frown:.

Too bad I can't speak French...

[Nihil Credo]

@PR: Most of the threads are players' reports, but every one I've seen so far has the Top 8 lists posted at some point in the thread (sometimes in French, sometimes in English). Anwar also found English lists at Germagic.

@Pinder: L'essaim de Slivoides t'attend ici... (http://www.legacy-france.com/Slivoide-t829.html)

[revenge_inc]

If no-one reports them, you can't expect them to magically show up.


My posting wasn't concerning this. It was about the fact that to have a tournament in the Historical Top-8 forum it must have 50 participants. (and they always fall just short of that).


However, they did have a few tournaments in the spring that reached just over 50 people but they were poorly reported. With what I could find though, there wasn't enough information to include them in the Historical top-8 forum. They are better reported now though.

[Pinder]

@Pinder: L'essaim de Slivoides t'attend ici... (http://www.legacy-france.com/Slivoide-t829.html)

Ooh! What does it say?

[revenge_inc]

Ooh! What does it say?

The first poster is presenting his sliver like it's his latest creation and has been testing well (as you usally find in the new and dev forum here). Nothing at all like the current slivers thread on The Source, where posters treat the deck as an already defined metage choice with proven tournament results. Nothing to learn really. The interesting threads on legacy-france are the ones relating to Fairie Stompy. That deck is more commonly played in France and there are some interesting tournament reports + discussion.

[Lego]

My posting wasn't concerning this. It was about the fact that to have a tournament in the Historical Top-8 forum it must have 50 participants. (and they always fall just short of that).


However, they did have a few tournaments in the spring that reached just over 50 people but they were poorly reported. With what I could find though, there wasn't enough information to include them in the Historical top-8 forum. They are better reported now though.

I don't think that's true anymore. It's something in the 30s now. So if they start posting T8 lists, they can make it into the DTB forum.

[revenge_inc]

I don't think that's true anymore. It's something in the 30s now. So if they start posting T8 lists, they can make it into the DTB forum.

DTB forum =/= Historical Top-8 thread

[Lego]

DTB forum =/= Historical Top-8 thread

The Historical Top 8 thread requires tournaments over 33 people. That's also the requirement for decks to show up in the DTB forum. As far as I know, the Historical Top 8 thread lists every eligible tournament for which we have data, and the DTB Forum is a list of the decks that placed well in the last few months (I have no idea how long this time frame actually is.)

[Holo_rip]

For each tournament in paris and in france, we have generally a list of what were the metagame, and what were the top 8 with decklist of the top 8's players.
So well, won't be that difficult to add our information about the legacy metagame.

Holo.

[Yamaelle]

Quite amazed to see an ad for Legacy-france here at the Source. Anyway, a lot of members there also read The Source, and/or post here (Maverick78f, me, Choobak and his weird Dark Dephts decks, ASSASSIN for Gobs, etc..). It is a much smaller site, probably a lot younger too, but I really like it.

As someone mentionned earlier, most of the active members live around Paris. We have like 1 or 2 40-50+ tournaments every month, which is for instance a lot less that what they have in Tokyo (basically 5-6 every month). Now that I moved back to Shanghai, I get 0 tournaments a month. They simply don't have Legacy here...

@Eldariel: I remember mentioning your name a couple times when writting on FS. Which makes sense somehow :wink:
However, as Maverick78f said, I cannot recall of any Eldariel on LF. There are also other French magic websites, amongst others www.magictrade.org. I posted there a long article on FS, and someone asked me if the Eldariel I mentionned was the same MT member. So, as sad as it sounds, it might just be a coincidence. I myself have the Yamaelle pseudo for almost everything online (magic websites, hotmail, ebay, imdb, horror movies forums, etc) but I recently wanted to open a gmail acount and "my" name was already taken. I was VERY pissed off, so I understand your feeling.

I did reports of EVERY tournaments I did while I was in France (13 tournaments if I recall well). The fact that I top8ed in 11 on them with FS helped. All are posted on the "Reports" category. The sad thing is that, it takes time to take all the decklists and post them, and since I left I am not sure who does it instead. So fewTop8 lists are available. For the Legacy Worlds 2006 side events, where I got 2nd with FS, we never obtained the lists anyway.

As someone mentionned some theads there are "more" developped than the equivalent here, i.e. FS, Life, Aluren, etc, because it is petdecks of some of the active members.

Regarding Toad, he posts quite a lot, and the Paris Legacy community is a small world, so we more or less all know each other irl. But despite our different nationalities, we will probably all agree that his "You know shit, only me is always right whatever" style is quite annoying, but the guy is really skilled and overall is a nice contribution to the site. He has a very bad opinion of Sourcers, hence why he only posted for his pet deck Aluren, despite being member for a long time.