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Cavius The Great
11-16-2007, 12:34 PM
If I have a Tarmogoyf in play and an artifact creature in my yard, such as a Shield Sphere, does Tarmogoyf recognize it as both a creature and artifact or just either or?

Happy Gilmore
11-16-2007, 01:06 PM
If I have a Tarmogoyf in play and an artifact creature in my yard, such as a Shield Sphere, does Tarmogoyf recognize it as both a creature and artifact or just either or?

It recognizes both. Same with having something like Great Furnace in the yard, it represents both an artifact and a land.

Atwa
11-16-2007, 01:23 PM
I really wish Wizards will print an 'uber' Mistform Ultimus.

This card counts as every cardtype. I simply can't care how much it'll cost. Therapy myself, Goyf.

Wallace
11-16-2007, 01:24 PM
Tarmogoyf will check all types of all cards in your graveyard, so if you have: Tar Fire, Arcbound Ravager, Wasteland, Garruk Wildspeaker, Standstill, and Ponder in your yard, Tarmogoyf will be an 8/9.

Tar Fire is a Tribal-Instant (2/3), Ravager is an Artifact-Creature (4/5), Wasteland is a Land (5/6), Garruk is a Plainswalker (6/7), Standstill is an Enchantment (7/8) and Ponder is a Sorcery (8/9).

Lego
11-16-2007, 04:42 PM
They need to print more dual-type cards. The fewest number of cards you can use to make Tarmogoyf an 8/9 right now is 5. We should be able to do it in 3.

Wallace
11-16-2007, 04:44 PM
They need to print more dual-type cards. The fewest number of cards you can use to make Tarmogoyf an 8/9 right now is 5. We should be able to do it in 3.


5, I thought it was 6, How do you do it in 5?

Jaynel
11-16-2007, 05:06 PM
Artifact Land, Enchantment Creature, Planeswalker, Tribal Instant, and a Sorcery.

TrialByFire
11-16-2007, 05:07 PM
Artifact-land, tribal-instant, enchantment-creature, sorcery, planeswalker

Wallace
11-16-2007, 05:13 PM
Artifact-land, tribal-instant, enchantment-creature, sorcery, planeswalker

Ahhh...didn't know about the Lucent Liminid, Creature - Enchantment deal.

Lego
11-18-2007, 12:40 AM
I was freaking out about that guy for like 30 minutes at TMLO. Ask the several people who sadly had to witness the freaking out. He's an Enchantment AND a creature! You can kill him with RONOM UNICORN!

Media314r8
11-18-2007, 09:27 PM
Bound in silence FTW.

Nihil Credo
11-18-2007, 11:49 PM
BiS doesn't get you any lower (though I've had the rare pleasure of playing with that card in a competitive Legacy deck ;)

Lego
11-18-2007, 11:59 PM
Bound in silence FTW.


Still takes five cards, even with BiS (a card I've had the rare pleasure of playing in a competitive Legacy deck ;)

How do you do it in 5 with Bound in Silence (Or Hoofprints, which is probably more playable in Legacy)? If you use a Tribal Enchantment, I think you need 6 cards.

Pinder
11-19-2007, 12:32 AM
I don't think you can, until they print Instant-Lands.

Nihil Credo
11-19-2007, 12:43 AM
Brain fart. Fixed.