01/05/08 2 Beta Tundra Winter Wonderland Event

[alteredstates]

What: Magic Beta Tundra winter wonderland event!
When: January 5th - 11:00 am (Registration begins at 10:00 am)
Format: Legacy Format Sanctioned Event, X rounds of swiss pairings based on attendance, cut to top 4 or 8 (17+ players).
Where: Play the Game, Read the Story, 2nd floor Carousel Center mall. This event will be held in the store!

Prizes:
1st Place: 2 English Beta Tundra
2nd Place: 4 Foreign Black Bordered Tundra
3rd and 4th*: 1 booster box of standard choice (Timespiral, Planar Chaos, Futuresight, Lorwyn, Coldsnap, 10th edition, Morning Tide)
5th through 8th**: 18 Packs of standard choice (Timespiral, Planar Chaos, Futuresight, Lorwyn, Coldsnap, 10th edition, Morning Tide)


*3rd & 4th booster pack prize slots are gauranteed but are based on attendance. The above prizes are with a 30+ turnout.
**5th - 8th booster pack prize slots are guaranteed with 17 or more players but are based on attendance. The above prizes are with a 30+ turnout.

Please check our website for official details:
http://www.playthegamereadthestory.com

[Nightmare]

Maybe I can upgrade my Tundras' condition with this event. That would be nice.

[alteredstates]

One of the beta English is very very minty! The second has seen some play but is in very great shape. The Foreign black bordered have also seen some play but are excellent shape as well!

~Rob

[Wallace]

I am so there! I was wondering when the first large legacy event of the year would be. I hope people can put there hatred/frustration with Play the Game/Altered States aside and play in this event. The last two "large" events there have been not so large.

Will this event be held in store or somewhere else in the mall?

Who will be judging this event?

Will this event start on time?

[Bryant Cook]

I'll probably be there.

[Michael Keller]

I'll be there.

[Bryant Cook]

A Legend? More like A Joke.


First smacktalk!

[Michael Keller]

No smack talk here - just business.

EDIT: Brother

[Brushwagg]

I'll plan on being there. Just so it's clear, in order for 5-8 to get prizes there needs to be 30 people?

[Bryant Cook]

NWO? What is this "Darkness" part two?

[Shriekmaw]

I'll be there for sure. This time, its all business.

[Jim]

I'd like to be at this, I'll see what I can do.

[Gulkahn]

the event will be in the store. The current person running and judgeing is me. But this may change.
as far as starting on time? if people come and register on time the event can start on time! Pre-reg and save a step and $5! (if you're not sure how to pre-reg please check the website or call the store.)

[Getsickanddie]

Hmmm..... I have this weekend off, but it's the day after my girlfriend's birthday....Maybe me and my shiny asian robots will grace this event with our appearance. Then again, maybe we'll stay home for birthday sex, and pina coladas.

[Jander78]

Shit.....I'll be in fucking West Virginia.

[Mulletus]

OK I might be missing it... but what's the price?

[ApokalypseKid9]

I'll probably show.
Gus might show as well.:(

[Shriekmaw]

Hmmm..... I have this weekend off, but it's the day after my girlfriend's birthday....Maybe me and my shiny asian robots will grace this event with our appearance. Then again, maybe we'll stay home for birthday sex, and pina coladas.


Trevor, I think even though the birthday sex might sound really good. I think winning this tournament with Asian Shiny Robots might be just a bit sexier.

[alteredstates]

pre-reg is $20 and is fully refundable if for some reason you are not able to attend. the pre-reg ends the thursday before the event. and at the door the fee is $25.

[goobafish]

Me and a friend are considering coming down from Canada. The site is unclear about the address, what address do you put into MapQuest to get directions? Also how do you pre-register. Thanks!

[Wallace]

Me and a friend are considering coming down from Canada. The site is unclear about the address, what address do you put into MapQuest to get directions? Also how do you pre-register. Thanks!

9586 Carousel Ctr, Syracuse, NY 13290


Its on the 2nd floor of the Macy's wing.

[TeenieBopper]

You know... I swore to myself that I would never patronize this store again... but it's looking oh so tempting.

[Di]

^ My sentiments exactly. I might just show up for this. And win.

[scrumdogg]

What's actually guaranteed? And at what attendance levels? Where's the catch?

[Mulletus]

yeah and i still didnt catch the price.

[Wallace]

yeah and i still didnt catch the price.


Its $20 if ya pre-Reg and $25 at the door if I remember right.

You can call them and ask: 315-472-4263

[Gulkahn]

yes that is correct about the pre-reg and there is a money back gaurntee if you pre-reg and do not attend the event.

Prizes:
Top 2 Gaurnteed! (providing the event has 8 people)
Top 4 slots are gaurnteed! (again providing the event has 8 people)
The rest of the top 8 slots are gaurnteed with 17+ people (less than that there is no need for a top 8 play off)
However 3rd-8th are based on attendance. The origional example of packs given was at 30 players.

example 2: at 17 players
1st: 2 english tundra
2nd: 4 fbb tundra
3rd & 4th: 1/2 box
5th - 8th: 1/4 box

example 3: at 11 players
1st: 2 english tundra
2nd: 4 fbb tundra
3rd & 4th: 1/4 box

rule of thumb - the more people that come the more i can give away!

~rob

[Michael Keller]

Show up and support this event - it should be a good time.

[Wallace]

Thats what i'm saying, would be nice to have a nice turn out for a "big" event, if we can get 21 for a weekly event @ comix zone, getting 30-40 should be np for this.

[The Wes]

Looks like fun, I might even drive over from Albany to come.

[Wallace]

Looks like fun, I might even drive over from Albany to come.

Bring a friend or two, or three...

[The Wes]

Well, I'm rather new to Albany, and don't know anyone else that plays here. And its expensive to ship friends in. :)

[freakish777]

Well, I'm rather new to Albany, and don't know anyone else that plays here. And its expensive to ship friends in. :)

Just look around the boards, there's plenty of other Magic players from the Albany area, and I'm sure some of them either needs rides, or would be happy to split gas with you.

[Watcher487]

Well, I'm rather new to Albany, and don't know anyone else that plays here. And its expensive to ship friends in. :)

Send me a PM and I'll see what's up with work. I'll put my chips in. Ohhh and Dave you better show.

[Wallace]

Send me a PM and I'll see what's up with work. I'll put my chips in. Ohhh and Dave you better show.

You better be there Shane, we can both top 8 again, then have the tour. not even count for the DTB thread cuz it was at the begining of the month. :tongue:

[Watcher487]

You better be there Shane, we can both top 8 again, then have the tour. not even count for the DTB thread cuz it was at the begining of the month. :tongue:

You got to learn that nothing I do counts for anything here. But, I might be busting out something.... weird.... or unusual.... or maybe just survival.

[The Wes]

Oh hell, I'll be there for sure now, just need to find a few cards....anyone know where I can get some tabernacles? :)

[Michael Keller]

I'm playing Survival I think. I never have before so we'll see.

[Wallace]

I'm playing Survival I think. I never have before so we'll see.

What no Polar Express, no Sui Black?

[boris13]

I'm going and going to kill everyone with Spring Tide.

[Shriekmaw]

I'm going and going to kill everyone with Spring Tide.


First, you have to actually be able to play the deck. Second, there is no way in hell I'm losing to that crappy combo deck.

[Wallace]

Wow, 30 days till the event and the trash talk begins? I 'm with you Nick, we'll see how well he plays it!!

[Zach Tartell]

I stoped by the store earlier today. The Tundras look nice.

Very nice.

[Wallace]

I stoped by the store earlier today. The Tundras look nice.

Very nice.

Yeah, there prob. the same one's they've had for a while, they look very nice.

[boris13]

Well the way I play theres no way I am going to win shit, unless its a typical Joe Terino game and I topdeck everything I need.

[Wallace]

Well the way I play theres no way I am going to win shit, unless its a typical Joe Terino game and I topdeck everything I need.

or scoop you could just c=scoop it up when your opponent says thay have the win....ooooo sick burn...ouch!

[boris13]

Yeah I forgot about that actually, he was going to probaly win the turn after I really don't member it that much though.

[Shriekmaw]

Well the way I play theres no way I am going to win shit, unless its a typical Joe Terino game and I topdeck everything I need.


The best deck for you is some sort of beatdown aggro strategy. I think combo is very hard to play correctly unless your one of the seasoned legacy players.


I'll bring the cards you need on Saturday, so there will be no excuses for messing up with Spring Tide.

I rather play Solidarity over Spring Tide, but thats just me.

[Gulkahn]

yes all of the tundras are on display in the store!
and yes they are hot and sexy!!

[Brushwagg]

They will look even better in my deck. It's going to be an EPIC day.

[URABAHN]

VA needs a place to crash, at the moment there are 4 of us expected to come up for Winter Wonderland. Takers?

[Nightmare]

I already told you I have room.

[URABAHN]

I already told you I have room.

In j00r pants? Seriously, when did you say you had room?

[Nightmare]

In j00r pants? Seriously, when did you say you had room?

When I replied to your PM. Yesterday.

[Bryant Cook]

I plan on rockin' this event. EPIC tech.

[Michael Keller]

I've got something new and something old for this one.

[Shriekmaw]

I've got something new and something old for this one.


I think bringing something a little new and old sounds like a good plan. I think I'll do the same thing. The question is, what will I play? :)

[T-ORGANIZER]

I too will probably be there, altered mentioned they might like me to judge, if not i'll see what i can cobble together and forget to put in my deck.

[goobafish]

Anyone figure out how to pre-register?

[cdr]

Providing a link (http://www.playthegamereadthestory.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=366&products_id=10062) would be too easy, I guess.

[Jim]

Day requested off, I"ll be there.

[Michael Keller]

I noticed that the "Create a New Good Deck III" contest is approaching...and I have something up my sleeve. I'm busting it out at this tournament.

:cool: As only Hollywood can do! :cool:

[Wallace]

I may have something new for this, I'm gonna test it at the Legacy Box event at comix zone on the 29th. If it does well then I will play it at this event too.

Go NWO!!!

[Jim]

I may have something new for this, I'm gonna test it at the Legacy Box event at comix zone on the 29th.

Do they have that tournament advertised on here? It sounded like it should be a really good time (they've mentioned it at Saturday legacy tournaments there) and it would be nice to have a good turnout.

[Di]

Oh yeah...I was supposed to do something about that Comix Zone event in regards to posting it, but entirely forgot. But from what I remember it's on the 29th, $10 entry fee, winner gets a box.

[boris13]

Its also at 11:00 instead of the sealed deck.

[Getsickanddie]

....

[Nightmare]

It's next weekend, dude.

[Parcher]

Less than a week to go, and no trash talk? I'll start.

Team Calosso predicts total domination! Well, not by us...but total domination regardless!!

[Shriekmaw]

It's officially less than 1 week away and that means its almost time to bring the new tools to kick off the 2008 season of Legacy.

Who exactly outside of the Syracuse regulars are coming to this event?

[clavio]

I'll be there like shareware.

[URABAHN]

Providing a link (http://www.playthegamereadthestory.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=366&products_id=10062) would be too easy, I guess.

The webpage has an invalid Security Certificate, should I not proceed?

[zulander]

I'll be the rep for Team Brown. And just like we took over your tech support I'm taking over your magic tournaments. I'm going to make you my camel.

[quicksilver]

The webpage has an invalid Security Certificate, should I not proceed?

It's fine, the web site just sucks is all.

[munkie]

I might be there. I would like me some Tundra's. I'm kind of on a roll this week, so extending it into some Tundra's would be tight. I will probably need a deck to play. Anyone got anything worthy?

[Di]

I'll be there. And win. :)

Alex if you go make sure you bring my Volcanics.

[munkie]

I'll be there. And win. :)

Alex if you go make sure you bring my Volcanics.
I would have given them to you last night if you didn't have to bail to change a diaper. Dumbass. <3

[Nightmare]

I need to know who from VA is planning to go to this, and if they plan to crash at my apartment. The earlier I know, the better.

Also, Artese, you've gotta shorten up your sig.

[Gulkahn]

http://www.playthegamereadthestory.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=366&products_id=10062

That is a direct link to the event registration on our website. sorry for not posting it sooner. Any one that pre-regs and is unable to attend will be refunded their money.

[URABAHN]

I need to know who from VA is planning to go to this, and if they plan to crash at my apartment. The earlier I know, the better.

Also, Artese, you've gotta shorten up your sig.

No one is staying with you. You're going to be all alone.

[Wallace]

Anybody form the Syracuse Area need a ride to this thing? I don't mind driving as long as you are ready to be picked up early and are ready when I get there. PM me if you need a ride, I want to get there between 9:30-10:00. LMK...

[bigbear102]

Anybody from VA that sees Calosso , remind him that he still has my Abeyances and take them from him if possible and bring them to cuse. I'd appreciate it since he never actually mailed them to me like he said he would. Thanks.

[URABAHN]

Anybody from VA that sees Calosso , remind him that he still has my Abeyances and take them from him if possible and bring them to cuse. I'd appreciate it since he never actually mailed them to me like he said he would. Thanks.

If anyone from NY sees Matt, tell him he owes me money and should bring it to Carousel Mall

[quicksilver]

Anybody from VA that sees Calosso , remind him that he still has my Abeyances and take them from him if possible and bring them to cuse. I'd appreciate it since he never actually mailed them to me like he said he would. Thanks.

That reminds me, you still have my reverent silence I do believe.

[Mulletus]

Yeah collosso has my foil disenchant sliver.... I lent it to him for $5. I want it back now pls.

[Wallace]

So who's coming to this thing, simple yes or no?

Yes

[goobafish]

I will be headed down from the Great White North.

[Shriekmaw]

So who's coming to this thing, simple yes or no?

Yes

The NWO will be there in force. Hope to see a good turnout.

[Di]

I'm curious as to how many people they can accomodate comfortably, since they mentioned the event will be held in the store. I will be pissed if it's not.

[Wallace]

I'm curious as to how many people they can accomodate comfortably, since they mentioned the event will be held in the store. I will be pissed if it's not.

Yeah, I was wondering the same thing, I don't think they realize how many people are going to show up, maybe they are planing on opening up the back room, like they did at the Sun. Pre-release. If we got 40+ it will be cramped, o well I had to play on 3 floors at states, neutral ground is now in a new location and we were forced to play on 3 levels...up stairs was insanely warm!!!

[Watcher487]

I guess I'm going by myself again, People from Albany suck.

[Bryant Cook]

Top 8 Predictions?

1 TES
1 Goblins
2 Threshold
1 Landstill esq deck
3 Survival(This is syracuse we're talkin about).

[AnwarA101]

Can someone get the T8 decklists and post them here? Thank you in advance.

Good luck to all, maybe I'll make it next time!

[Michael Keller]

T.E.S is not making top 8.

[Bryant Cook]

T.E.S is not making top 8.

GREAT....another person I have to goldfish until they understand...::sigh::

[Di]

Bryant Cook and Di split finals. Mansex ensues in the frozen parking lot.

[Bovinious]

Bryant Cook and Di split finals. Mansex ensues in the frozen parking lot.

For that kind of thing isnt Massachusetts the optimal state, not New York? I dont know maybe New York allows that kinda thing also, but I do know that down here in Virginia were taking a stand!

[Bryant Cook]

Bryant Cook and Di split finals. Mansex ensues in the frozen parking lot.

Shotty pitcher.

[TeenieBopper]

Top 8 Predictions?

1 Goblins


Scratch that shit. I'm not playing.

[Bryant Cook]

Scratch that shit. I'm not playing.

Off on a date with another girl who's a 4? You gonna let her wear your pants this time? "Oh, this isn't my shirt?"

[TeenieBopper]

Off on a date with another girl who's a 4? You gonna let her wear your pants this time? "Oh, this isn't my shirt?"

I am, however, showing up at some point. When I do, I'm powerbombing you through a table.

[Wallace]

We have 49 people, with 4-5 of the locals showing up. I will be posting the top 8 when I have it. Rob said he would give me the T8 lists when the event is over. I went 4-2 and prob. won't make top 8...o well...

[Getsickanddie]

Lam Pham got first, Diablos took second.

[kabal]

Lam Pham got first, Diablos took second.

What were they playing? What were the other decks in the Top 8?

[Di]

Just got home. Good day for me. Top 8 was:

UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Lam Phan)
GBrW Survival (myself)
UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Dave Caplan)
RGBSA (Mulletus)
RGBSA (Quicksilver)
Ichorid (Parcher)
B/G Suicide Black (VA guy, can't remember online nick)
Landstill (Phil Stolze)

Threshold beats Ichorid
GBrW Survival beats RGBSA
B/G Suicide beats RGBSA
Threshold beats Landstill

GBrW beats Threshold
Threshold beats B/G Suicide

I lost to Lam Phan with Threshold in finals. Mull to 5 both games FTL. I'll have a report up soon. It was quite an interesting tournament for me. Thanks for everyone who came out too, we had a great turnout and the event was a blast.

[kabal]

Just got home. Good day for me. Top 8 was:

UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Lam Pham)


Did it run CB in the main? What was the creature configuration?

[AnwarA101]

Just got home. Good day for me. Top 8 was:

UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Lam Pham)
GBrW Survival (myself)
UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Dave Caplan)
RGBSA (Mulletus)
RGBSA (Quicksilver)
Ichorid (Parcher)
B/G Suicide Black (VA guy, can't remember online nick)
Landstill (Phil Stolze)

Threshold beats Ichorid
GBrW Survival beats RGBSA
B/G Suicide beats RGBSA
Threshold beats Landstill

GBrW beats Threshold
Threshold beats B/G Suicide


B/G Suicide Black was played by nitewolf9 (Dan Signorini). The deck is called Eva Green. Just wait until you guys see the decklist and tournament report.

[Whit3 Ghost]

Another BZK top 8.
I'm bummed no-one in the local car did well, but hey, can't win em all. I can't wait to read some of the reports from here and see some of the lists.

[goobafish]

Lam asked me to post on his behalf, so this is from the both of us:

We had an awesome time at this event. It was great to meet all the sourcers, the players were awesome, the venue was awesome, the prizes were awesome. Please let us know when there are other events like this in the area as we would love to come back.

Edit: He wanted me to say that it's spelled Phan not Pham.

[Shriekmaw]

Just got home. Good day for me. Top 8 was:

UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Lam Pham)
GBrW Survival (myself)
UGR Threshold w/ Wastes (Dave Caplan)
RGBSA (Mulletus)
RGBSA (Quicksilver)
Ichorid (Parcher)
B/G Suicide Black (VA guy, can't remember online nick)
Landstill (Phil Stolze)

Threshold beats Ichorid
GBrW Survival beats RGBSA
B/G Suicide beats RGBSA
Threshold beats Landstill

GBrW beats Threshold
Threshold beats B/G Suicide

I lost to Lam Pham with Threshold in finals. Mull to 5 both games FTL. I'll have a report up soon. It was quite an interesting tournament for me. Thanks for everyone who came out too, we had a great turnout and the event was a blast.


Congrads Colin on making it to the finals and almost winning it, if not for mulliganing to 5 in both games. I guess Survival is a pretty good choice to play around here.

It was also nice to see such a good turnout for this event.

Later

[Getsickanddie]

I had a couple issues with this event.

A) No Smoking on mall property is frowntown.
B) No toilet in store. Seriously what the fuck. I dropped from the event to drive home so I could take a shit because I didn't want to use the terrible bathrooms in the mall food court.

[Di]

Did it run CB in the main? What was the creature configuration?

No Counterbalance. The creature configuration was Mongeese, Tarmogoyf, and some number of Trygon Predator. They ran maindeck Wasteland, Stifle, Lightning Bolt, and Fire/Ice. It was rough for me. I'd ask the people who piloted the deck for more information though, as I just base this off what I saw.

[Jim]

Did it run CB in the main? What was the creature configuration?

Tarmogoyf
Nimble Mongoose
Trygon Predator (Sideboard)

Force Of Will
Daze
Lightning Bolt
Fire/Ice
Rushing River
Stifle
Ponder
Brainstorm
Portent
(yeah, all three of those draws)

Wasteland
Tropical Island
Volcanic Island
Fetches
(no basics)

Not sure on the quantities for everything.

I played against it first round and watched other rounds with him - every time he needed an answer, he would play a draw spell and it would be in the top three cards every time, or he would shuffle them away and just draw it anyway off the top. It was crazy.

[goobafish]

The deck is totally redundant, an answer comes in many many forms. He probably wasn't looking for just 1 card, but 1 of a few. That's kinda how the deck works.

[kabal]

The deck is totally redundant, an answer comes in many many forms. He probably wasn't looking for just 1 card, but 1 of a few. That's kinda how the deck works.

After seeing the contents of your list I noticed you had Fire/Ice. How useful was it during this event? There has been a few discussions (Format (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8088)/Ugr Threshold (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7051&page=49#post189634)) regarding this card and its relevance in the current Meta. It seem like the majority didn't favor it. Maybe you don't mind giving your take.

[goobafish]

The contents of those posts on the UGr Thresh thread are the reason I have stopped sharing my opinion on the deck. When I previously decided to post on the merits of wasteland and stifle in threshold after the deck's resounding success at Gencon, it was not taken well and I felt as though I was not being listened to. I will not repeat the same mistake again.

[Mulletus]

I had a good time. I went 4-0, and drew in. I lost the mirror match in top 8. I won 24 packs. I beat: Goyf sleigh 2-1, Landstill 1-0-1, Cephalid breakfast 2-1, Suicide B/g 2-0. Four of my six opponents made the top 8, so it shows I didnt get paired against scrubs. All my wins came from my deck working great. I lost to Di in 2 games, the first one I jumped out quick, then drew land land birds land... he recovered. Then game two I didnt draw land. It was good time, and I have no complaints or regrets.

[URABAHN]

I had a wonderful time at the event. I played BHWC Landstill to a disappointing 2-2-2 record. I think I learned a lesson in capitalizing on my opponent's mistakes. After a draw with Nantuko Shady, I couldn't buy a win, losing twice, drawing again (goddamn Landstill mirror), and playing against someone who forgot to drop and conceded the match.

For those of you counting at home, I earned one win.

Thanks to

My compadres for helping with the 8 hour drive to 'Cuse
Kadi for letting us stay over at his place
Nightmare for the wicked awesome Unicorn hoodie
Zuhair, who might be a bigger pedo than I (too bad 'bout them Redskins, bro)
Teenage girls
Bryant Cook
Di
Teenie Bopper
Hyde Diner
Wegman's Sub Shop
Anyone else I may have forgot to mention!

Cya all at the Running GAGG!

[zulander]

LOL, no one is a bigger pedo than you. In a serious convo you said you would actually nail a 14 year old given the circumstances.

[AnwarA101]

We have 49 people, with 4-5 of the locals showing up. I will be posting the top 8 when I have it. Rob said he would give me the T8 lists when the event is over. I went 4-2 and prob. won't make top 8...o well...

Please post T8 decklists whenever possible.

Thank you.

[Bovinious]

LOL, no one is a bigger pedo than you. In a serious convo you said you would actually nail a 14 year old given the circumstances.

Whats wrong with thaaaaat? Dont you know, 14 is the new 16!

[The Wes]

Ya know what they say, if there's grass on the field...

[Cavius The Great]

@zulander - He wouldn't be considered a pedophile it's more like statutory rape. Bovi is only 18.

[Bovinious]

Jailbait - Because the best things in life are illegal!

[aTn]

Any news on the T8 decklists ?

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The contents of those posts on the UGr Thresh thread are the reason I have stopped sharing my opinion on the deck. When I previously decided to post on the merits of wasteland and stifle in threshold after the deck's resounding success at Gencon, it was not taken well and I felt as though I was not being listened to. I will not repeat the same mistake again.

I totally agree and understand your situation. A similar one has pushed me to stop writing in that thread. Also, the post quality has declined to the point where I wonder if people re-read what they have written before posting it(just take a look at the number of "here's my decklist. Fix it" posts and redundant posts).

[AnwarA101]

From what I've been told no one collected decklists from the tournament organizer. I've pmed the tournament organizer hoping to hear back. Without the decklists, this tournament won't be included in the Historical T8 thread. I think that would be unfortunate.

[Wallace]

From what I've been told no one collected decklists from the tournament organizer. I've pmed the tournament organizer hoping to hear back. Without the decklists, this tournament won't be included in the Historical T8 thread. I think that would be unfortunate.

You could just have the people in the top 8 pm you thee lists and post thme from there, if you can't get them from PTG.

[Parcher]

Nightmare said he got the lists from Rob the T.O., after Rob entered them all in his computer. He said the Canadians took theirs back though, so even if he can get you the six, I don't know if the rules will allow straight memory from all those who played Pham and Caplan to substitute actual lists.

[Shriekmaw]

Nightmare said he got the lists from Rob the T.O., after Rob entered them all in his computer. He said the Canadians took theirs back though, so even if he can get you the six, I don't know if the rules will allow straight memory from all those who played Pham and Caplan to substitute actual lists.


This lists that Caplan and Phan used were very close to the following:

Threshold U/G/r

4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Rushing River
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze
4 Fire / Ice
4 Force Of Will
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Ponder
4 Spell Snare
4 Stifle
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
4 Tropical Island
4 Volcanic Island
4 Wasteland

SB

2 Trygon Predator
2 Krosan Grip
3 Engineered Explosives
4 Blue Elemental Blast
4 Pyroclasm

[Parcher]

And I know Pham ran Grudge over Grip, and Crypt over EE. I am pretty sure he ran REB and not BEB as well. They both also ran 1 River and 1 Wipe Away. The problem being that no one knows 100% for certain every card in both decks except them.

[Shriekmaw]

And I know Pham ran Grudge over Grip, and Crypt over EE. I am pretty sure he ran REB and not BEB as well. They both also ran 1 River and 1 Wipe Away. The problem being that no one knows 100% for certain every card in both decks except them.

The sideboard is the only think I'm unsure of. I saw them play Rushing River main deck. I'm not sure if they spilt it between that and wipe away or had more copies in the board.

I believe the deck list is very close to what they were playing.

[Nightmare]

I didn't get decklists.

[Bryant Cook]

I saw an EE against Phan.

[AnwarA101]

I didn't get decklists.

Why didn't you. You made me :frown:. Let's hope the lists materialize. I'm willing to work with anyone who can help.

[Nightmare]

Why didn't you. You made me :frown:. Let's hope the lists materialize. I'm willing to work with anyone who can help.

If no one else did, I might snag them wednesday. We'll see.

[legacyplayer0]

Why didn't you. You made me :frown:. Let's hope the lists materialize. I'm willing to work with anyone who can help.



Here's mine. It's the same list that Uri Peleg played at worlds, except with 4 SB BEB and 2 SB Smother changed to 2 Extirpate+2 Darkblast+2 Engineered Explosives.

4c Landstill

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Standstill
4 Counterspell
3 Stifle
4 Pernicious Deed
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Fact of Fiction
2 Crucible of Worlds
4 Wasteland
4 Mishra's Factory
1 Nantuko Monestary
4 Tropical Island
3 Underground Sea
3 Tundra
3 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta

Sideboard:
4 Engineered Plague
2 Engineered Explosives
4 Leyline of the Void
1 Stifle
2 Darkblast
2 Extirpate

[Di]

Mine is posted here (http://mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8177).

Nitewolf9's is posted there (http://mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8189).

Parcher's is posted elsewhere (http://mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8214).

[Gulkahn]

I have most of the Top 8 deck list still! Lam Phan and Dave took their deck lists back though. If someone wants to come collect the top 8 lists that i still have thats fine. as long as i get them back thats fine.

[quicksilver]

Here (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=195555#post195555) is the deck list I ran.

[zulander]

I have most of the Top 8 deck list still! Lam Phan and Dave took their deck lists back though. If someone wants to come collect the top 8 lists that i still have thats fine. as long as i get them back thats fine.
If you want you can just post them that way no one takes them and forgets to return them.

[URABAHN]

I PM'd Goobafish, here's the response:


Hey!
Yes, Lam took back our decklists as he wishes them to be withheld.

Dave, Lam, I think I can speak for The Source Community when I say "You're making us very sad."

[zulander]

Honestly at this point who cares if they took their lists back. It really isn't going to stop anyone from playing something similar since the cards are known. The only thing unkown is the quantity, which isn't really a big deal.

[URABAHN]

Honestly at this point who cares if they took their lists back. It really isn't going to stop anyone from playing something similar since the cards are known. The only thing unkown is the quantity, which isn't really a big deal.

Yeah, but it's a shame that it essentially invalidates the results from Winter Wonderland. No decklists means no Historical Top 8 means 8 less decks that reflect the LMF.

[Nightmare]

Yeah, but it's a shame that it essentially invalidates the results from Winter Wonderland. No decklists means no Historical Top 8 means 8 less decks that reflect the LMF.Why wouldn't we just say "close enough"?

[aTn]

While I respect their choice to withold their lists, I really don't understand it. It's not as if the decks are spectacularly new (from what I've read here). Some of us have played epsilon-close lists to the ones they seem to have played, so I don't see what's the fuss.

[Ewokslayer]

While I respect their choice to withold their lists, I really don't understand it. It's not as if the decks are spectacularly new (from what I've read here). Some of us have played epsilon-close lists to the ones they seem to have played, so I don't see what's the fuss.

But this weekend there is the Legacy Champs at Neutral Ground.

They could win $150 with their secret Threshold Tech.

$150 People

[nitewolf9]

But this weekend there is the Legacy Champs at Neutral Ground.

They could win $150 with their secret Threshold Tech.

$150 People

That's enough for a nice meal for 2 at the elegant Lightfoot restaurant in Leesburg, VA (including a bottle of the house merlot...trust me), so I guess I can understand.

[TeenieBopper]

Why wouldn't we just say "close enough"?

Here's what they played

4 Delta
2 Strand
4 Volcanic
4 Trop
4 Wasteland

4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder/Portent (Dave played Ponder, Lam did not)
4 Stifle

4 Force
4 Daze
4 Spellsnare

4 Tarmagoyf
4 Nimble Mongoose

4 Bolt
4 Fire/Ice
2 Rushing River

SB:
4 Ancient Grudge
3 Trygon Predator
4 Crypt
4 Red Blast

[zulander]

Why wouldn't we just say "close enough"?
Okay then here, let's pretend this is their deck list:

Mana: 20
4 Wasteland
4 Polluted Delta
4 Floded Strand
4 Trop
4 Volc

Creatures: 8
4 Mongoose
4 Goyf

Disruption: 22
4 Force
4 Stifle
4 Daze
3 Spell Snare
3 Bolt
2 Fire/Ice
1 Rushing River
1 Wipe Away

Draw: 10
4 Brainstorm
4 Ponder
2 Portent

Sideboard: 15
Tyragon Predator
Other Cards

All in favor say 'Aye'

[URABAHN]

Why wouldn't we just say "close enough"?

Is that alright with Anwar, PR, and everyone else involved with the LMF? I'm fine with "close enough".

[Bryant Cook]

Lam played a 2/2 split on ponder/portent and 1 EE SB. I know for a fact.

[goobafish]

I will write a mini report later today with my list in it if I can find my notes. Put down Lam's list as the same as mine.

Edit: If I wanted to write a primer instead, where would that go?

[aTn]

But this weekend there is the Legacy Champs at Neutral Ground.

They could win $150 with their secret Threshold Tech.

$150 People

Eeeh! I didn't know that (picture a worm shriveling when salt is poured on it, why... I don't know). Then I understand a bit better their decision.


Edit: If I wanted to write a primer instead, where would that go?

I don't know but I'd be happy to read it :)

[zulander]

Probably red thresh thread. Having a mini primer in your tournament report might get the deck more attention though.

[goobafish]

The report will be up soon. I will take a while to do the primer, anyone have any idea how to try to submit it to SCG?

[Nightmare]

The report will be up soon. I will take a while to do the primer, anyone have any idea how to try to submit it to SCG?

editor@starcitygames.com

[goobafish]

My List (http://mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8231)

[Mulletus]

Sorry I didnt know you needed my list.... or it owuld have been up sooner.

Actually I woke up at 10:35am ....debated weather or not to go... then left the house at 10:55 for an 11am tourny. I got there at 11:15 and started to buy a card I needed. And I built this as they were entering folks into the computer and pairing the round.

4 Tiaga
4 Bayou
2 Savannah
4 Wooded Foothills
2 Windswept Heath
5 Forest

4 Birds of Paradice
4 Nimble mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
4 Survival of the Fittest
4 Eternal Witness
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Wall of Roots
(now for why i dont write the list out often)
1 Flametongue Kavu
1 Gaddock Teeg
1 Fire Imp
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Harmonic Sliver
1 Bone Shredder
1 Anger
1 Genisis
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Shriekmaw (has fear not flying, lol)
1 Rofellos, Llanowar Emissary
1 Quirion Ranger
1 Darkheart Sliver
1 Spike Feeder
61 total

Sideboard
3 Magus of the Moon
3 Engineered Plague
3 Tormod's Crypt
2 Thoughtseize
2 Extirpate
2 Krosan Grip

In round 4, I cast the maw on my own Genisis to be able to get fire imp back and to fly over for the win in a few turns... he blocked it the first time i attacked.

[Di]

Yay all top8 decklists are in (assuming we pretty much nailed Lam's list with the 100 versions). DTB insanity circa February 2008.

EDIT: My request of Lam Phan, his list is to be posted as same as Dave Caplan's. So we have the entire top8, and I'll be throwing them in the thread if someone hasn't done so already.