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Wallace
11-20-2007, 06:11 PM
So everyone has had to answer the, "What do you think the worst set is?" question before. There are a few sets that come to mind when this question is asked, Iwill leave it up to everyone to decide...
Bryant Cook
11-20-2007, 06:21 PM
Fallen empires will win. 1 playable card.
Kadaj
11-20-2007, 06:24 PM
As much as some other sets were pretty awful, I think Prophecy gets the nod here. It produced ONE card that was EVER played ANYWHERE. That card being Spiketail Hatchling, which isn't even playable anywhere anymore.
Cool set in some ways, I liked some of the mechanics, but as far as pure card quality goes, the set was fucking awful.
Versus
11-20-2007, 06:27 PM
Fallen empires will win. 1 playable card.
I count 3. Hymn, High Tide, Order of the Ebon Hand. Night Soil has always intrigued me as well. Either way, just looking at Homlelands makes me want to punch myself. That gets my vote.
As much as some other sets were pretty awful, I think Prophecy gets the nod here.
Indeed.
Prophecy gets my vote. I still remember how goddam awful my card pool became after I got a box of prophecy just to get Avatar of Woe.
The list of playable cards off top of my head:
Veteran Brawler
Rystic Lightning
Rystic Study
Spiketail Hatchling
Avartar of Woe
...lol
Hymn to Torach or Merchant Scroll single handedly beats all of them. Really.
@Versus
Merchant Scroll.
Bovinious
11-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Fallen empires will win. 1 playable card.
WOW, umm High Tide, Goblin Grenade, Night Soil, Hymn to Tourach, pump knights...
Prophecy is the worst, 0 playable cards while Homelands is a close second, having just Merchant Scroll.
Wallace
11-20-2007, 06:33 PM
Fallen empires will win. 1 playable card.
See this is almost always the first answer people give, I think they are dead wrong. There were some good cards in this set:
Order of the Ebon Hand
Order of Leitbur
Hymn to Tourach
High Tide
Goblin Grenade
Icatian Javelineers
Rainbow Vale
Seasinger
Night Soil
All the cards saw play or are still seeing play.
What did we get out of Homelands, Merchent Scroll?
What did we get out of Prophecy, Spiketail Hatchling, Plague Wind maybe?
So Annoying My Account Is Banned
11-20-2007, 06:36 PM
I"m surprised that more people aren't voting for legions. I remember that legions was a pretty weak set and a close contender for at least the second worst set of all time, only good thing I can think of is incinerator and akroma from that set, but nothing else really...
I"m surprised that more people aren't voting for legions. I remember that legions was a pretty weak set and a close contender for at least the second worst set of all time, only good thing I can think of is incinerator and akroma from that set, but nothing else really...
List of possible Legacy Playables from top of my head:
Caller of Claw
Tribal Forcemage
Withered Wretch
Essence Sliver
Plated Sliver
Gempalm Incinerator
Gempalm Strider
Glowrider
Gravebone Muse
Seedbone Muse
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Versus
11-20-2007, 06:47 PM
Kamagawa gets a pass from me. Even if it's perceived as aweful, the cards that are good are great and I love the flavor. Ninjas for fucks sake, in Magic. Right on.
nastynate
11-20-2007, 07:05 PM
Fallen Empires: Hymn to Tourach, Goblin Grenade, and that’s about it.
Homelands: Merchant Scroll and nothing else…period.
Arabian Nights: Bazaar of Baghdad, City of Brass, Drop of Honey, Kird Ape, Old Man of the Sea, and many others. This set actually has quite a few awesome cards.
The Dark: Blood Moon, Tormod’s Crypt, Ball Lightning, Maze of Ith, and couple other pretty good cards that no longer see play (like witch hunter and preacher).
Antiquities: Mishra’s Factory, Mishra’s Workshop, Strip Mine, Triskelion, Atog, Candelabra of Tawnos, Energy Flux, Hurkyl’s Recall, Millstone, and other great stuff here. Nope this set is still pretty awesome.
Champions of Kamigawa: Boseiju, Forbidden Orchard, Ghostly Prison, Gifts Ungiven, Isamaru, Kiki Jiki, Meloku, Sakura-Tribe Elder, Samurai of the Pale Curtain, Sensei’s Divining Top, and Uba Mask. Plenty of playables here.
Cold Snap: Ohran Viper, Jotun Grunt, Counterbalance, Haakon, Rite of Flame, Rune Snag, Stromgald Crusader, and that’s about all.
Legions: Akroma, Gempalm Incinerator, Glowrider (at least I think its good), Withered Wretch, and a handful of others with questionable value (like graveborn muse).
Prophecy: Mageta the Lion, Spiketail Hatchling, Spore Frog, and possibly Aura Fracture. This is pretty thin, but not as bad a Homelands or even Fallen Empires.
Looks like Homelands is still the stinkiest of stinkers.
So Annoying My Account Is Banned
11-20-2007, 07:07 PM
List of possible Legacy Playables from top of my head:
Caller of Claw
Tribal Forcemage
Withered Wretch
Essence Sliver
Plated Sliver
Gempalm Incinerator
Gempalm Strider
Glowrider
Gravebone Muse
Seedbone Muse
Akroma, Angel of Wrath
Gempalm strider? Really?
And how is caller of the claw good? A counterspell deals with mass removal as well and isn't as narrow as this is. can someone please explain to me how they think that this is a good card?
Gempalm strider? Really?
And how is caller of the claw good? A counterspell deals with mass removal as well and isn't as narrow as this is. can someone please explain to me how they think that this is a good card?
Elves.
mikekelley
11-20-2007, 07:14 PM
I vote for Kamigawa because I fucking cannot stand the anime/ninja shit they turned the game into.
VsTheWorld
11-20-2007, 07:15 PM
Homelands has Memory Lapse too. Not amazing, but pretty good as far as 2 mana counters go.
nastynate
11-20-2007, 07:22 PM
Homelands has Memory Lapse too. Not amazing, but pretty good as far as 2 mana counters go.
Go figure. I always thought that was first printed in Mirage.
ForceofWill
11-20-2007, 07:23 PM
Homelands is still the worst set in magic even with lapse/merchant scroll.
Homelands:
Merchant Scroll
Memory Lapse
Didgeridoo (No, this is not another Thunder Bluff joke; It will be a very good card once they decide to push Minotaurs in some set. It is a good card without proper setup, just like Goblin Lackey before the printing of Onslaught.)
Serrated Arrow
Only one Legacy playable so far, though.
Tacosnape
11-20-2007, 07:29 PM
Does anyone play anything from Nemesis at all?
I mean, Tangle Wire isn't even in Stax anymore.
ForceofWill
11-20-2007, 07:33 PM
Daze, AK, Massacre, Parallax Tide/Wave, sap burst, seal of fire/cleansing, sap burst. That's all I got
daze
seal of fire
I guess not much .
xsockmonkeyx
11-20-2007, 07:34 PM
Prophecy wins this one by a lot. When your most useful card is a dogfight between afterthoughts like Spiketail Hatchling and Chimeric Idol then you know you got problems.
Homelands comes in number 2. 1 playable card, Merchant Scroll, and a couple really marginal ones, Memory Lapse, Natural Order.
Fallen Empires wasn't that bad of a set in retrospect. High Tide and Hymn to Tourach are staples and pump knights arent that bad either. Plus, it was like dollar a pack :smile:
Bovinious
11-20-2007, 07:36 PM
IS EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD DENSE??? Im getting so pissed just reading this, there is no way Prophecy is not the worst set, its NOT EVEN CLOSE. DId you guys all just forget Prophecy exists because it sucks so much, or is this real ingorance Im seein?
Does anyone play anything from Nemesis at all?
I mean, Tangle Wire isn't even in Stax anymore.
I count:
Blastoderm
Accumulated Knowledge
Daze
Lynn Sivi and her friends
Ensnare
Flame Lift
Mogg Salvage
Parallax Wave, Tide
Rootwater Thief
Seal of Fire, Cleansing
Saparoloing Burst
Skyshroud Cutter and his friends
Quite a bit, in my opinion.
IS EVERYONE IN THIS THREAD DENSE??? Im getting so pissed just reading this, there is no way Prophecy is not the worst set, its NOT EVEN CLOSE. DId you guys all just forget Prophecy exists because it sucks so much, or is this real ingorance Im seein?
I concur. Prophecy sucks so much It makes me mad. Goddam Rhystic Lightning was a good card when this set was around. That says it all.
EDIT:
Natural Order.
What? I thought it was Visions card.
Bardo
11-20-2007, 07:48 PM
At the height of my "Magic is awesome" days, when Homelands came out, I was stunned with how appalingly awful it was. Even with high expectations and a poor skills at evaluating cards (we only had usenet groups back then), it was a fucking bomb. (Edit - A shit bomb, i.e.)
Looking back, Autumn Willow was kinda cool as was Serra Aviary -- but man the rest sucked (with the exception of Merchant Scroll, as was previously said).
I was playing when Prophecy came out, and that is a donkey of a set as well. I'm going more from personal experience here.
GreenOne
11-20-2007, 07:58 PM
I vote for Kamigawa because I fucking cannot stand the anime/ninja shit they turned the game into.
QFT. I hat that Kamigawa shit. And i was pissed by the new layout of cards too. I mean, that layout was not that horrible in the golden age of affinity, but was vomiting with the flip cards and the like.
Eldariel
11-20-2007, 08:03 PM
Homelands had Sea Sprite. It can't be bad.
I dunno, I'd go with Prophecy. Not only were the cards horrible, but the set mechanic was horrible, the whole had no flavour whatsoever (that's something Homelands excelled at) and blah. It had few playables though, off the top of my head:
Spore Frog
Chimeric Idol
Spiketail Hatchling
Avatar of Woe
Glittering Lynx
Rebel Informer
Mageta the Lion
Rhystic Tutor
and maybe something I'm forgetting. But yea, not all of those are really Legacy-playables, but solid cards still. Rhystic Tutor is kinda meh if opponent sees it coming, but it has its uses. Still, as a whole, it's either that or some Urza's set for making so many people quit this game.
Sanguine Voyeur
11-20-2007, 08:05 PM
I liked Kamigawa, the overall flavor was quite to my liking. The mechanics could have been better, i.e. spirit v. material was ill defined, "wisdom" shouldn't be as much as an afterthought as it was, power level could have been better distributed, but I like the theme and it has a few wonderfully flavorful cards, as well as some potent cards. What a huge sentence.
Tacosnape
11-20-2007, 11:04 PM
I count:
Daze
Seal of Fire
Edited for clarification of what actually sees play in real Legacy. Still, Daze is probably enough to pull this out of worst set contention.
MattH
11-20-2007, 11:24 PM
Chronicles!
moxpearl
11-20-2007, 11:34 PM
I didn't even play during the Prophecy age, but it seems pretty clear to me.
SpatulaOfTheAges
11-21-2007, 12:10 AM
Copenhaver, you didn't play during Homelands. STFU.
Prophecy had a few marginally playable cards for Standard and Extended. Homelands was only ever played because people were forced to play it, and then it was Serrated Arrows. Merchant Scroll sees a little play, but not much. The set also came in packs of 8. That's effing irritating, if you didn't know.
Prophecy had worse flavor and art. But in terms of playability, nothing can compare to the suckiness of Homelands. I mean, when people are looking for redeeming factors for the set, they always include Autumn Willow. That should tell you something.
CynicalSquirrel
11-21-2007, 12:54 AM
Writing in for Saviors of Kamigawa. I think it's obvious that overall sets like The Dark and Fallen Empires are weaker by power level, but given the standards we have for today's sets I've always thought the entire Kamigawa block was severely lacking. Saviors literally just has Pithing Needle and a whole lot of junk, along with a keyword that is just a bad ripoff of cycling, and one that is completely underpowered. Epic was pretty cool, but it doesn't make up for the rest of the set.
I can give Wizards a break for Fallen Empires, the Dark, Homelands, etc. They were still figuring out what was good in the game, and didn't really have much of a precedent to judge by other than some crazy Alpha/Beta cards. Kamigawa is always the worst to me because they knew what it took to make a good set that people enjoy, and knew what the general power level for a block should be, and still didn't deliver. It's almost as if they intentionally made a weak set to compensate for Mirrodin block, which just always rubbed me the wrong way.
I never really got into the Japanese them of the block either, so maybe I just hold a grudge.
yawg07
11-21-2007, 02:36 AM
Some friends and I had a discussion similar to this a while back.
EVERY SET IN MAGIC contributes at least one card to the Legacy card pool.
Admittedly, Merchant Scroll has not made a splash in Legacy yet, the potential is certainly there.
The only set that it was hard to think for was indeed Prophecy.
Not counting Reanimator as a true decktype (i.e. Avatar of Woe was not counted) Prophecy DID contribute one decent card.
Chimeric Idol. Hello Pox. Epochrasite may have replaced you, but you were there.
Pinder
11-21-2007, 03:12 AM
Elves.
Yeah, Mono-G doesn't really have access to a ton of counterspells.
Arctic_Slicer
11-21-2007, 03:46 AM
I have to say Prophecy is worse than Homelands. If only because Merchant Scroll is better than Spiketail Hatchling.
Other people already mentioned Memory Lapse, Serrated Arrows, and Sea Sprite. The other card I think is worth mentioning is Ihsan's Shade. A 5/5 black creature with Protection from white for 6 mana is quality creature even by today's standard. Back in the day he was like the greatest creature ever. Cannot be targeted by Swords to Plowshares or Terror and enough toughness to survive Lightning Bolt.
Anyway my vote goes to the pile known as Prophecy.
Zuriya
11-21-2007, 06:51 AM
Kamigawa got my vote. It may not have the worst cards, but designing such a bad set nowadays is a bigger crime than the accidents of the past.
Didn't Prophecy have some playable Rebel or Mercenary ? And it has Foil in it and lots of other playable cards (this blue cards drawing Enchantment., this 2U counter, etc).
Pale Moon FTW
11-21-2007, 07:32 AM
You all need to realize how much Prophecy fails. At least Homelands has Merchant Scroll and Sea Sprite and Kamigawa had Top and more. What does Propecy offer? Mageta the Lion, Avatar of Woe? You can't be serious. Also Rhystic Stuff = FTL.
Silverdragon
11-21-2007, 08:11 AM
I voted Homelands because I actually bought some packs of it back when I started playing Magic.
Prophecy was ok with me as it had lots of cool cards for multiplayer Highlander with all those legendary spellshapers (especially Mageta), Avatars (Avatar of Woe of course) and Winds (Plague Wind!).
Nemesis is good. Accumulated Knowledge, Daze and Submerge are 3 good arguments, as well as Seal of Cleansind, Rootwater Thief (he was amazing in T1), Tangle Wire, Parallax Wave...
But Homeland sucks. Only 1 playable Card: Merchant Scroll.
emidln
11-21-2007, 08:35 AM
From a deckbuilder's perspectice I'll go with Scourge. Now, Scourge actually has a lot of completely busted cards in it, but Storm was a mistake. That mechanic alone gets it my nomination for Worst Set. It also had some of the little green men which I hate so much. Fuck that set.
SpatulaOfTheAges
11-21-2007, 08:41 AM
You can't count Sea Sprite and Merchant Scroll and ignore Aura Fracture, Abolish, and Avatar of Woe.
emidln
11-21-2007, 08:47 AM
You can't count Sea Sprite and Merchant Scroll and ignore Aura Fracture, Abolish, and Avatar of Woe.
Doesn't Avatar of Woe cost a million mana? Has that ever made top8 in an eternal format?
Seriously, Merchant Scroll finds counters, tutors, card draw, combo pieces and might even blow you under the right conditions. Scroll by itself outclasses the set of Prophecy as a whole.
Sanguine Voyeur
11-21-2007, 09:59 AM
It seems to come down, for me, to Fallen Empires, Homelands, and The Dark.
The Dark is the first time that they considered balance, thus they over compensated and made a weak set. However, because the balanced it, it is a very important set in terms of design and changed the way that sets after it could be made. Similar to the speed of Onslaught and Mirrodin being broken by Kamigawa to allow richer sets like Ravnica and Time Spiral to flourish. This doesn't hide the fact that the set is underwhelming.
Notable cards: Tormod's Crypt, Amnesia, Ball Lightning, Blood Moon, Dust to Dust, Maze of Ith, and Tivadar's Crusade all saw play.
Homelands was awful, mechanically. Apparently, it focused more on telling the story of Ice Age, but that's no excuse for such poor cards.
Notable cards: Memory Lapse, Merchant Scroll, Autumn Willow, and Ihsan's Shade all saw play.
Fallen Empires isn't too strong, but it is certainly stronger then Homelands. It was printed in excess due to previews underprintings and helped them learn to print the right amount of cards. It was also the first tribal block, something that players clearly love seeing as how there were two more tribal blocks after, Onslaught and Lorwyn.
Notable cards: Goblin Grenade, High Tide, Hymn to Tourach, and Order of the Ebon Hand all saw competitive play, and Thallid was a huge casual hit, and still is.
freakish777
11-21-2007, 10:20 AM
Overall card for card, I think Fallen Empires still stands out in my mind as being the worst set ever in Magic.
Packs of this set still sell for, what, $1? I remember thinking "Gee golly, I can get 10 of these for $0.70 a piece with my $7 instead of only 2 packs of Mirage, oh boy!" when I first started playing. Worst. Ever. Thanks Wizards. In comparison Prophecy packs still sells for $2 or $3.
The overall card quality is lower in FE. Additionally, you know what I hate? Cracking a pack, seeing new artwork and going "Wow, I haven't seen this card before, I wonder what it does?!" only to find out you already have 7 of that exact card just in different artwork after reading the text...
In all seriousness, I think a good way to test would be to have 2 tables of people drafting, one table drafts FE, one drafts Prophecy (it can't be that expensive right?), they play each other. This would be interesting to do a SCG article of "The best & worst sets/blocks Wizards has ever printed" (minus AN, AQ, LE, The Dark, A/B/U/R, seeing as how buying boxes of those might get a little expensive...).
Solpugid
11-21-2007, 10:45 AM
Prophecy is the worst set unless any player pays 1. If so, then I guess my vote goes to homelands.
Versus
11-21-2007, 10:50 AM
Prophecy is the worst set unless any player pays 1. If so, then I guess my vote goes to homelands.
HA! I just realized last night that I have 80 JUNK rares sitting in a box in my closet. I counted them and 64 were Prophesy. I guess I bought 2 booster back in the day and they do me as much good as they did then.
Jander78
11-21-2007, 10:57 AM
Fallen Empires still has cards that are played today. It was over produced and the packs only contained 8 cards....that's why they were and still are so cheap. Prophecy wasn't horrible when it came out, it just didn't stand the test of time.
Homelands has always been horrible.
Baron Sengir....
Autumn Willow.....
Give me a fucking break.
Pinder
11-21-2007, 10:58 AM
My vote went to Homelands.
Of course, Homelands/Champions/Unhinged is quite possibly best draft format ever conceived.
etrigan
11-21-2007, 12:11 PM
Prophecy.
Merchant Scroll is one the top 5 unrestricted cards in Vintage. Serrated Arrows was a rock solid sideboard card for a lot of years.
High Tide decks wouldn't exist without High Tide. Suicide Black decks wouldn't exist without Hymn to Tourach.
Foil? Give me a break.
kirdape3
11-21-2007, 12:49 PM
Prophecy had a good number of cards played when it was Standard-legal, including Chimeric Idol, Mageta the Lion, and Troublesome Spirit, and Withdraw.
Keep in mind that when looking through the prism of Legacy deckbuilding, you're looking for design mistakes first and foremost.
URABAHN
11-21-2007, 05:51 PM
Homelands is still the worst set in magic even with lapse/merchant scroll.
Add Autumn Willow, Eron the Relentless, Spectral Bears, and Serrated Arrows to the list of cards that did see tournament play. Cemetery Gate gets an honorable mention for being a key card in one of the best PEZ decks.
Do those cards save Homelands from being the worst set?
Pinder
11-21-2007, 06:00 PM
Add Autumn Willow, Eron the Relentless, Spectral Bears, and Serrated Arrows to the list of cards that did see tournament play. Cemetery Gate gets an honorable mention for being a key card in one of the best PEZ decks.
Do those cards save Homelands from being the worst set?
It's close, but not really. I will say that a foil Eron the Relentless is one of the pimpest things I've ever opened out of a pack (it was TS, but whatever). You can just sense the relentlessness.
Zuriya
11-22-2007, 04:10 PM
At least Prophecy's cards look like they might have potential. Homelands is just a "pre"print of good cards in a bad version (Serra Bestiary).
Rhystic Tutor, Keldon Firebombers, Flameshot, Task Mage Assembly, the Glittering Creatures, Living Terrain (and it has Spore Frog).
And there are also some Casual Cards like Plague Wind, the Avatars, Mageta the Lion.
Nihil Credo
11-23-2007, 11:14 AM
And there are also some Casual Cards like Plague Wind, the Avatars, Mageta the Lion.
I'll let you know Mageta was a tournament terror back in the day.
This is a difficult choice between Prophecy and Homelands, but I think I've got to give the nod to Homelands because it was the original worst set.
I can't believe any other set is even in contention. FE was awesome. I'm going to go buy a box of that and get some people to draft it with me! Who's up?
EDIT: The Prophecy full set on Star City is $100... the Fallen Empires full set is $60... the Homelands complete set is $40.
So Annoying My Account Is Banned
11-23-2007, 01:54 PM
Why isn't future sight on the list? just wondering, it seems like a pretty awful set to me.
Sanguine Voyeur
11-23-2007, 01:57 PM
Why isn't future sight on the list? just wondering, it seems like a pretty awful set to me.
That thing that defines Legacy.
http://magiccards.info/scans/en/fut/153.jpg
Nihil Credo
11-23-2007, 02:11 PM
Also Bridge from Below, Aven Mindcensor, Epochrasite, Gathan Raiders, Glittering Wish, the Pacts, two Magi, Narcomoeba, Street Wraith, Tombstalker, Yixlid Jailer. Just to touch on Eternal-useful stuff; the list would be four times as big with Standard cards.
Barook
11-23-2007, 02:30 PM
Why isn't future sight on the list? just wondering, it seems like a pretty awful set to me.
:confused:
Future Sight is one of the best sets since a long time.
@Nihil: 2 Magi? Moon and? You also forgot Dryad Arbor which sees play in Vintage Ichorid (or am I wrong?)
Nihil Credo
11-23-2007, 02:40 PM
Tabernacle kicks ass in Legacy Stax, and I'm pretty sure it did see play in Standard/Extended.
@Nihil: 2 Magi? Moon and? You also forgot Dryad Arbor which sees play in Vintage Ichorid (or am I wrong?)
Probably Magus of the Tabernacle. It gets played in some White control/Stax lists. Maybe Magus of the Bazaar... he was only really played in T2 though.
FakeSpam
11-23-2007, 03:01 PM
I personally think the rhystic spells are fine. Especially for Legacy. The format is so fast, nobody ever has extra mana. Homelands, however, has ferrets. I can't decide.
crow_mw
11-23-2007, 03:04 PM
Personally I would seek for 'worst set' somewhere close to Urza'a aga block and Mercadian Masques. Those blocks began a crazy card power race, which could not be stopped and eventually lead to win_turn_2 combo decks, which should have their place in T1 not Legacy.
Moreover somewhere back then, Magic lost its spirit, which returned much, much later - around Ravnica Block (perhaps Kamigawa, if someone is into Ninja stuff).
ClearSkies
11-23-2007, 03:23 PM
Personally I would seek for 'worst set' somewhere close to Urza'a aga block and Mercadian Masques. Those blocks began a crazy card power race, which could not be stopped and eventually lead to win_turn_2 combo decks, which should have their place in T1 not Legacy.
Moreover somewhere back then, Magic lost its spirit, which returned much, much later - around Ravnica Block (perhaps Kamigawa, if someone is into Ninja stuff).
It is almost like you are saying that fast combo decks don't exist in Legacy right now... o_O
What did Mercadian Masques have for Legacy again?
Just foil brainstorms, and Squees right?
Barook
11-23-2007, 03:33 PM
Tabernacle kicks ass in Legacy Stax, and I'm pretty sure it did see play in Standard/Extended.
That's exactly the reason I'm asking. Tabernacle is from Planar Chaos...
thefreakaccident
11-23-2007, 03:40 PM
Homelands is by far the worst set ever... I don't think that there is one card that was, is, or ever has been played before from that set except for perhaps way way long ago, when the game truely sucked that badly.
Nihil Credo
11-23-2007, 04:00 PM
That's exactly the reason I'm asking. Tabernacle is from Planar Chaos...
D'oh. On the plus side, I had forgotten about Virulent Sliver.
Homelands is by far the worst set ever... I don't think that there is one card that was, is, or ever has been played before from that set except for perhaps way way long ago, when the game truely sucked that badly.
The Time Spiral-reprinted Serrated Arrows were very good in Standard, actually.
FakeSpam
11-23-2007, 04:09 PM
I just made up my mind. I picked Fallen Empires. I must have cracked at least four boxes trying to get a Thelonite Monk.
Don't ask.
ForceofWill
11-23-2007, 04:53 PM
What did Mercadian Masques have for Legacy again?
Just foil brainstorms, and Squees right?
As far as stuff played right now.
Land,grant, Misdirection, Cave-In, Nether Spirit, Unmask, Rishadan port, Snuff out (kinda). It also had some nice reprints we play..
MattH
11-23-2007, 09:56 PM
Masques block cards that could see play in Eternal:
MM:
Cave-In
Dust Bowl
Food Chain
Gush
Land Grant
Misdirection
Ramosian Sergeant
Rishadan Port
Squee, Goblin Nabob
Unmask
NE:
Accumulated knowledge
Blastoderm
Daze
Massacre
Parallax Wave
Seal of Fire
Tangle Wire
PY:
Spiketail Hatchling
Prophecy sucks but the block as a whole has contributed its fair share. That's not even counting some role-player cards like Reverent Silence and Snuff Out and Submerge.
Homelands is by far the worst set ever... I don't think that there is one card that was, is, or ever has been played before from that set except for perhaps way way long ago, when the game truely sucked that badly.
Merchant Scroll.
And IBA played Ihsan's Shade in Flash
ForceofWill
11-24-2007, 06:08 PM
Masques block cards that could see play in Eternal:
MM:
Gush
I didn't list it for a reason. You know it's banned and all :P
MattH
11-25-2007, 01:07 AM
I didn't list it for a reason. You know it's banned and all :P
Note that I said "Eternal" and not "Legacy".
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