You make the card

[technogeek5000]

I saw something like this on TMD and i thought it would be realy cool if the The Source community could make its own card. First we would decide on what card type it is, then decide what color, If its a creature then subtype and P/T, and finaly the ability. The ability would probably have to be spread across a few threads to get exactly the right ability.

So we should first start off with the card type first, so vote on what you think it should be and when the poll closes, ill open up up the next part of the card to be made which will most likely be the color of the card. Also feel free to discuss ideas.

[APriestOfGix]

poll?

[technogeek5000]

Sorry i was spacing out while making it. Now you can vote.

[Peter_Rotten]

What about Equipment?

Or Tribal?

[Jak]

I voted Enchantment because there needs to be awesome, cheap Enchantments. Blah Blah Blah.

[Bryant Cook]

Sorcery there seems to be less and less every set. I know I've been looking.

[C.P.]

I voted Enchantment because there needs to be awesome, cheap Enchantments. Blah Blah Blah.

+1

[APriestOfGix]

Sorcery there seems to be less and less every set. I know I've been looking.

+1

[Watcher487]

Guys, very easy, LAND! We need something quirky here in thread anyway.

[technogeek5000]

What about Equipment?

Or Tribal?

I viewed those when making this thread as subtypes. Sure for all intensive purposes tribal is its own supertype but there are tribal enchantments, instants, and sorceries so i thought it would be better to decide tribal (and equipment) at a later time.

[n00bas4urus_r3x]

I voted Plainswalker. Being new to the scene, I think a lot of shit that hasn't been explored in magic could be with these guys.

[technogeek5000]

For me, i think there isnt enough cool artifact creatures. The only playable ones are beaters in 5/3 (masticores, juggernaut, etc...), dreadnought, and the affinity guys.

[Peter_Rotten]

For me, i think there isnt enough cool artifact creatures. The only playable ones are beaters in 5/3 (masticores, juggernaut, etc...), dreadnought, and the affinity guys.

Isn't Goyf like an artifact creature that can't be Shattered? (Hell, it seems like you can play him in any deck).

[APriestOfGix]

I want it to be an enchantment, that would be ausm to see us make a playable enchantment. Of course a playable sorcery would be cool as well, we could do some crazy shit like make it a sorcery, that can be played as an instant only on an opponents turn...

Or to make Wastedlife happy (he wants a new TES card so it must be sorcery for his Wish's) We could give it flash...


Here we go...


CARDNAME BR

Sorcery

Flash

You may search your library and/or sideboard for any card and put it in your hand. You lose life equal to it's mana cost.

[Lego]

We really need some better Enchantment Creatures. Can someone add that to the poll?

[APriestOfGix]

Thats what i want to do with the enchantment.

I needs to have an ability like rancor's though to not suck...

[Barook]

I needs to have an ability like rancor's though to not suck...
Plus Split Second to eliminate the still potential card disadvantage.

I voted for Creature. Enchantments are imho too boring and Instants/Sorcercies are most likely going to end up as something retarded.

[Jade]

I voted for instant... solidarity could need a push again :smile:

[Ebinsugewa]

I'm sick of creatures, so I would like it to be a spell. Not enough good instants have been printed recently. I will have to think about what it actually does though.

[technogeek5000]

We really need some better Enchantment Creatures. Can someone add that to the poll?

Enchant Creatures are enchantments with the keyword aura on them. After supertypes are over one of the poll's will be what subtypes to give the card.

[DeepfriedDynamite]

I want a cool enchant creature card. I want to see something like.

BLANK 1B

Enchanted creature gets +3/+0, has double strike, and has lifelink. Enchanted creatures toughness is 1.

When enchanted creature goes to the graveyard, you lose 5 life.

Maybe just B to be playable but this would be pretty cool.

[technogeek5000]

I would play that in sui all day.

T1: zombie
T2: enchant, attack for 10 and gain 10
T3: Win at 40 life.

[KillemallCFH]

Enchant Creatures are enchantments with the keyword aura on them. After supertypes are over one of the poll's will be what subtypes to give the card.Not Enchant Creatures. Enchantment Creatures, like this fellow (http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=lucent+liminid).

As a quick aside, I fucking hate that card. Every time I go to organize my commons I can't decide whether to put him with Creatures or put it with Enchantments, so I just rip it up instead.

[kicks_422]

I voted for Instant, just because I think it has the most potential to show off out-of-the-box designs.

[technogeek5000]

I might have set the poll for to long. For the next ones ill set them for 3-5 days depending on the importance of the subject.

[APriestOfGix]

who vote for instant!

go away, you wankers, instants are already all over the place.

I say we recall this poll, until what i want win!

:-P

[technogeek5000]

I also think instants would be dull. Creatures, enchantmants, walkers, and lands are what i expected to do well.

[APriestOfGix]

can we just veto instant?

we have enough in the format already, who really wants another one?

i mean how creative can we be? oh yeah, we can't...

[Pinder]

Eh, if it's instant, I say we switch it up and make it Tribal. And a Sliver.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

Eh, if it's instant, I say we switch it up and make it Tribal. And a Sliver.It should be that no matter what super type it is.

[The Rack]

Land would be sweet, a land that could waste another, counter a spell, and attack for */*+1 that would be cool.

[Atwa]

I really want to see an enchantment which counters all triggered abilities.

That could hose a lot of decks and inspire a lot of others.

Enchantment it is, although I could settle on artifact. You can put the ability on both.

[technogeek5000]

The next poll will be for the color of the card. I will leave the poll open for 4 days and then we will do subtypes.

[Lego]

Enchant Creatures are enchantments with the keyword aura on them. After supertypes are over one of the poll's will be what subtypes to give the card.


Not Enchant Creatures. Enchantment Creatures, like this fellow (http://ww2.wizards.com/gatherer/CardDetails.aspx?name=lucent+liminid).

Exactly.

[QUOTE=KillemallCFH;180745]As a quick aside, I fucking hate that card. Every time I go to organize my commons I can't decide whether to put him with Creatures or put it with Enchantments, so I just rip it up instead.

You organize your commons?


Land would be sweet, a land that could waste another, counter a spell, and attack for */*+1 that would be cool.

We need some Tribal lands. Maybe Tribal manlands. With Flash.

EDIT: Look, my vote put Enchantment over Instant. We need more votes.

[marit]

Definitely need a sorcery, I want to see personal tutor have soem use.

[So Annoying My Account Is Banned]

Why do I see this ending in something creates a tarmogoyf like creature, or destroys tarmogoyf so easily that it would just be plain right out better to not play tarmogoyf?

[technogeek5000]

Why do I see this ending in something creates a tarmogoyf like creature, or destroys tarmogoyf so easily that it would just be plain right out better to not play tarmogoyf?

Fuck Tarmogoyf B

Enchantment
When Fuck Tarmogoyf comes into play,search your opponents deck for any number of a card named Tarmogoyf and put them into play under your control. All tarmogoyfs that you dont own that you control gain double strike, haste, first strike, quadruple strike, trample, flying, jet-packing, and deathtouch.

When Fuck Tarmogoyf leaves play light all Tarmogoyfs that you control that you dont own on fire.
Edit: Split second

[ForceofWill]

You forgot to give the spell split second.

[technogeek5000]

Fixed...
It looks like enchantment is going to win. Here is what im planning to do in order.

Step1: supertype
Step2: Color
Step3: casting cost
Step4: subtypes
Step5-7: Abilities 1-3 (or less if needed... maybe a poll to decide number of abilities and a thread for ability submissions)
Step8: Name

Thoughts?

[ForceofWill]

Abilities should be step 3.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

I think it should be supertype, subtype, colour, ect.

[Atwa]

I think we might want to chose an ability first.

We can have more ideas if you are not bound to a colour.

[ForceofWill]

Yah Color and mana cost should be last you don't make the abilities based on the mana cost you make the mana cost based on the abilities.

[Barook]

Yah Color and mana cost should be last you don't make the abilities based on the mana cost you make the mana cost based on the abilities.
Exactly - otherwise, the result is going to suck (remember the top-down design of Vanish into Memory based on a picture? :rolleyes:)

So let's sum it up:

Step 1: Supertype
Step 2: Suptype (if necessary)
Step 3: Ability/Abilities
Step 4: Mana Cost
Step 5: Name/Picture

[Sanguine Voyeur]

Step 1: Supertype
Step 2: Suptype (if necessary)
Step 3: Ability/Abilities
Step 4: Mana Cost
Step 5: Name/Picturehttp://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb242/Sacul_Kamadaka/Second.jpg
I stand corrected, that's much more logical.

[Nihil Credo]

I wouldn't even bother with supertype early on. Whether a card should be made legendary or not is mostly a development issue (thus to be decided together with the mana cost); whether it should have the tribal or snow supertype is strictly connected to its abilities, and should be handled in that step.

[Barook]

I wouldn't even bother with supertype early on. Whether a card should be made legendary or not is mostly a development issue (thus to be decided together with the mana cost); whether it should have the tribal or snow supertype is strictly connected to its abilities, and should be handled in that step.
Well, Supertype is probably the wrong term. Type would be more appropriate. Otherwise, I agree (except that Tribal isn't a supertype -if it was, it wouldn't pump Goyf).

Edit: If Enchantment really wins, the next poll comes down to these choices (stupid or not):
- Enchantment
- Enchantment - Aura
- Tribal Enchantment
- Tribal Enchantment - Aura
- Enchantment Creature
- Artifact Enchantment
- Land Enchantment

[technogeek5000]

Well, Supertype is probably the wrong term. Type would be more appropriate. Otherwise, I agree (except that Tribal isn't a supertype -if it was, it wouldn't pump Goyf).

Edit: If Enchantment really wins, the next poll comes down to these choices (stupid or not):
- Enchantment
- Enchantment - Aura
- Tribal Enchantment
- Tribal Enchantment - Aura
- Enchantment Creature
- Artifact Enchantment
- Land Enchantment

Legendary?

Ill probably leave it open so people can vote for more then 1 option.

[Barook]

Legendary?

Ill probably leave it open so people can vote for more then 1 option.
Supertypes should be part of the balancing once we voted the abilities imho.

[technogeek5000]

Ok so here is how its gonna be ordered.

Step 1: Card type
Step 2: Ability
Step 3: color
Step 4: Subtype if any
Step 5: Casting cost
Step 6: Name

[Sanguine Voyeur]

It should totally be a Tribal Enchantment - Aura Sliver that's playable outside of CounterSliver. Let's hope the voters agree.

[technogeek5000]

If tribal is one of the subtypes then well open up a poll for what tribe it should be.

[Barook]

It should totally be a Tribal Enchantment - Aura Sliver that's playable outside of CounterSliver. Let's hope the voters agree.

I hope you realise that the Sliver subtype is completely useless because most Slivers only affect creatures and the cards that would have synergy with it are utter crap.

[Sanguine Voyeur]

I hope you realise that the Sliver subtype is completely useless because most Slivers only affect creatures and the cards that would have synergy with it are utter crap.Nonsence, it could gain Shroud, Flash, uncouterablitiy, Regeneration, "Vindicate," and self bouncing.

But seriously, since it's an enchantment it would have to either be as good as Rancor or fit into Stax to see any play. Unless it's a reasonably priced build around card.

[Lego]

You forgot Tribal Enchantment Creature Land. Jeez.

[ForceofWill]

So it can get wasted turn 1 and make goyf freaking huge

[Pinder]

I hope you realise that the Sliver subtype is completely useless because most Slivers only affect creatures and the cards that would have synergy with it are utter crap.

True, but Crystalline would give the enchantment shroud, at least. Maybe something like Swarmyard, but for Slivers. Except it didn't target, and, um, regenerated them all.

[Lego]

True, but Crystalline would give the enchantment shroud, at least. Maybe something like Swarmyard, but for Slivers. Except it didn't target, and, um, regenerated them all.

This seems like a really relevant exercise we're doing here.

[Barook]

You forgot Tribal Enchantment Creature Land. Jeez.
Doesn't work - not enough space for a creature type! :tongue:

[Lego]

Doesn't work - not enough space for a creature type! :tongue:

Not all creatures have creature types.

[Barook]

Not all creatures have creature types.

Not after the great creature type update - Nameless Race should be the only exception, for flavor reasons.

Plus, putting Tribal on a card and then not adding a creature type doesn't make any sense besides thinking about additional Goyf pumping... :rolleyes:

[Lego]

Plus, putting Tribal on a card and then not adding a creature type doesn't make any sense besides thinking about additional Goyf pumping... :rolleyes:

Oh... um right... does "Imp" fit? :tongue:

[technogeek5000]

It looks like enchantment is going to win so ill open up the poll tommorow for the next thing.

What i have been thinking is that we could open up a thread and take submissions for abilities. We take the best ten and put them into a poll and vote on it. Then repeat for how many abilities we wish to give the card. If anyone else has any suggestions then please reply.

[Pinder]

Oh... um right... does "Imp" fit? :tongue:


Nah, just make a new creature type called, um....'Q'. Or ' '. Yeah, ' ' would do it.

[Barook]

It looks like enchantment is going to win so ill open up the poll tommorow for the next thing.

What i have been thinking is that we could open up a thread and take submissions for abilities. We take the best ten and put them into a poll and vote on it. Then repeat for how many abilities we wish to give the card. If anyone else has any suggestions then please reply.

I think we should have 2 threads at the same time - one in which we collect ideas for the abilites while the other one is the vote for the type the enchantment should have like discussed before.

[technogeek5000]

I like that idea. I will open up the thread and poll tommorow and when the subtype poll closes we will take the best ideas and make a poll.

Also how many abilities does everyone think is enough or are we going to need a poll for that too?

[Lego]

I like that idea. I will open up the thread and poll tommorow and when the subtype poll closes we will take the best ideas and make a poll.

There are only 2 Enchantment Subtypes, so that might be a boring poll. Although we should decide if it's an Aura or not. So I guess that poll's necessary. We'd need another for what you want though- other types.


Also how many abilities does everyone think is enough or are we going to need a poll for that too?

This depends on the abilities.

[Zach Tartell]

What if we're an Enchant World? Then I couldn't have it out at the same time as The Abyss. Or Concordant Crossroads. Or... Null Chamber.

[technogeek5000]

Yah i think enchant world and also enchantment creatures would be good additions to the poll. I will only leave it open for3 days. Also if its tribal then ill make a poll for the tribe. Im still at school so when i ge bck ill make the poll. If anyone wants to get any thoughts in before i make the poll do so now.

[Lego]

What if we're an Enchant World? Then I couldn't have it out at the same time as The Abyss. Or Concordant Crossroads. Or... Null Chamber.

It's not Enchant World anymore. It's World Enchantment. This should be decided at the same time as Legendary, i.e. after abilities are decided upon. Also, Wizards retired World Enchantments.


Yah i think enchant world and also enchantment creatures would be good additions to the poll. I will only leave it open for3 days. Also if its tribal then ill make a poll for the tribe. Im still at school so when i ge bck ill make the poll. If anyone wants to get any thoughts in before i make the poll do so now.

The poll needs to decide whether or not it's a Creature, or a Land, and whether or not it has a Subtype (Aura or Shrine are the only two currently in existence.) If it's a Creature (or Land? 0_o?) it can't be an Aura, but I see no reason why it can't be an Enchantment Creature - Shrine.

It can't be an Artifact (that doesn't work flavor-wise) or an Instant or Sorcery (these can't come into play) or a Planeswalker (there's no rules that handle Planeswalkers who have other types.)

I think these are all of the choices:

Enchantment, No other Types or Subtypes
Enchantment - Aura
Enchantment - Shrine
Enchantment - Aura Shrine
Enchantment - New Subtype (with or without others)

Enchantment Creature - Creature type TBD
Enchantment Creature - Shrine, Creature type TBD
Enchantment Creature - New Subtype (with or without Shrine), Creature type TBD

Enchantment Land, No Subtype
Enchantment Land - Shrine
Enchantment Land - Land Subtype TBD
Enchantment Land - Shrine and Land Subtype TBD
Enchantment Land - New Subtype (With or without others)

Did I miss anything?

[APriestOfGix]

Enchant Player?


Lets make the best enchant player card EVER!

(but thats an aura isn't it?)

[Lego]

(but thats an aura isn't it?)

Correct.