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No_Life_No_Future
12-06-2007, 05:11 AM
Endless Whispers
2BB, Enchantment, Rare
Each creature has "When this creature is put into a graveyard from play, choose target opponent. That player puts this creature card from that graveyard into play under his or her control at end of turn."

Engineered Plague
2B, Enchantment, Uncommon
As Engineered Plague comes into play, choose a creature type.
All creatures of the chosen type get -1/-1.

If a 1/1 creature and then kill it by engineered plague with endless whispers on the table does it keep coming into play infinetly? Also if neither player can end the loop is the game then a draw?

Would this also work without plague:
Phyrexian Marauder
X (0), Artifact Creature - Construct 0/0
Phyrexian Marauder comes into play with X +1/+1 counters on it.
Phyrexian Marauder can't block.
Phyrexian Marauder can't attack unless you pay {1} for each +1/+1 counter on it.

Nihil Credo
12-06-2007, 10:10 AM
Yes, the 0/0 creature (whether it is Marauder or a Plagued 1/1) keeps coming into play, dying as a state-based effect (which means it can't be responded to with Giant Growths and the like), and at end of turn it will come into play on the other player's side, restarting the cycle.

The key part here is at end of turn. The above sequence only happens at the end of each turn, when the delayed EW trigger goes on the stack. For the rest of the time, the card sits quietly in its owner's graveyard - this is why the game is not a draw.

thefreakaccident
12-06-2007, 10:27 AM
There are many other ways to get an infinite loop into a draw though... like dragon if you wish, or 3 oblivion rings, and there are some others that I cannot seem to remember... there are pleanty more though.

No_Life_No_Future
12-06-2007, 10:37 AM
wow im newb...... reading ftw.