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n00bas4urus_r3x
12-10-2007, 11:50 PM
Cost is $15. Start time is 1pm. Prizes will include 4 Dual lands, 4 Force of Wills, a Beta/Alpha Dual land (Volcanic Island if we get 50 players), and store credit.

The regular monthly at the Den. Black bordered Volcanic if there's 50+ people, and we had 49 last time. There was also credit for 5-8 last time, and I'm guessing there will be this time too if there is a large turnout.

I unfortunately will be in Seattle during this one, so bah humbug. :rolleyes:

Kyachi
12-11-2007, 12:05 AM
Cost is $15. Start time is 1pm. Prizes will include 4 Dual lands, 4 Force of Wills, a Beta/Alpha Dual land (Volcanic Island if we get 50 players), and store credit.

The regular monthly at the Den. Black bordered Volcanic if there's 50+ people, and we had 49 last time. There was also credit for 5-8 last time, and I'm guessing there will be this time too if there is a large turnout.

I unfortunately will be in Seattle during this one, so bah humbug. :rolleyes:

I'll guess I have to scrub out for you...

n00bas4urus_r3x
12-11-2007, 12:21 AM
Scrub out? I went 4-2, missed T8 by a round. Thats not scrubbing out....

Fayt
12-11-2007, 10:25 AM
I want to go so bad... but I have to work that day.... maybe I'll be sick

Kyachi
12-11-2007, 02:22 PM
Scrub out? I went 4-2, missed T8 by a round. Thats not scrubbing out....

Says the defeated...

Fayt
12-12-2007, 09:30 AM
yeah yeah... your the only person i lost to that day....

Citrus-God
12-14-2007, 11:10 AM
Let the shit talk commence; ICBE is making another Top 4. I predict around 2 ICBE members in the Top 4's this month.

Kyachi
12-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Let's not make promises we can't keep. Although I think that I've got Alex convinced to play Threshold, so odds are that someone will make t8 with our Thresh build. Assuming we don't get paired against Stax and Survival...


Oh wait...

froggy
12-15-2007, 06:37 PM
Let the shit talk commence; ICBE is making another Top 4. I predict around 2 ICBE members in the Top 4's this month.

This will be especially hard if Team Michigan (ie. team that won mox ruby) shows up in force. hopefully we don't play each other during the early rounds again...lol

TheMightyQuinn
12-15-2007, 09:03 PM
I might show up if I have a deck by then.

No_Life_No_Future
12-17-2007, 09:54 AM
I might go to this. Though it will be the first time ive played in a tourney for over a year and I think I might need to borrow some cards/playskill.

Citrus-God
12-17-2007, 10:41 AM
I might go to this. Though it will be the first time ive played in a tourney for over a year and I think I might need to borrow some cards/playskill.

You're represeting us. Thank fuckin' god you decided to play again.


@Derek: PM me Alex's list. I'll tune it for you guys.

Kyachi
12-17-2007, 10:42 AM
This will be especially hard if Team Michigan (ie. team that won mox ruby) shows up in force. hopefully we don't play each other during the early rounds again...lol

You still don't main CounterTop. That means you lose the mirror if I do. Or Melvin does. Or Alex does.

Citrus-God
12-17-2007, 10:50 AM
You still don't main CounterTop. That means you lose the mirror if I do. Or Melvin does. Or Alex does.

He's playing CounterTop main now, I think. I heard he lost to the mirror at Air Traffic, so he learned... unless there's some kind of preference problem.

froggy
12-17-2007, 11:56 PM
You still don't main CounterTop. That means you lose the mirror if I do. Or Melvin does. Or Alex does.

I guess I'll try it.....

Mental
12-18-2007, 12:28 AM
I guess I'll try it.....

Just run it in the SB and you should be ok. MD Stifle + Wasteland isn't bad in the mirror and is probably better than CounterbalanaceTop against everything else.

Citrus-God
12-18-2007, 10:34 AM
I guess I'll try it.....

Don't try it; it'll make more of our match-ups 50/50.

Kyachi
12-18-2007, 01:16 PM
Just run it in the SB and you should be ok. MD Stifle + Wasteland isn't bad in the mirror and is probably better than CounterbalanaceTop against everything else.

Worst Idea EvER.

lolz running 13 colord sowrses of manna is alwayz gud...

CounterTop wins games. Against almost everything other than Goblins. Even there it isn't bad.

Mental
12-18-2007, 07:00 PM
Worst Idea EvER.

lolz running 13 colord sowrses of manna is alwayz gud...

CounterTop wins games. Against almost everything other than Goblins. Even there it isn't bad.

Right, I guess you've never tested it. I don't own the deck, but the guy who does wins tournaments with it. He has let me play the deck a bit, and I have never been color screwed. With Brainstorm, Mental Note, and Ponder you shouldn't have a problem getting a second colored drop.

Kronicler
12-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Yeah, that would be me who Mental is referring to. This isn't really the place to have this discussion, but I have been playing UGR Thresh with only 14 color sources for quite a while and I think I've been mana screwed because of it once. In like.... 200 games or something really really large. The deck is much more aggro than most builds of thresh and really takes advantage of the stifle / wasteland package as well as mental note and all sorts of stuff that at first looks like absolute jank because in the controlling versions of thresh CB is just so much better. But when I can out race goyf sligh (no joke, done it quite a few times) all of a sudden keeping people off balance for 1-4 turns with stifle and wasteland starts to seem really strong. I'll probably write up a HUGE post in the UGR thresh thread in a few weeks once I get the chance to play the deck at one more tournament so that I have some more positive results to show, but don't knock it until you try it at least.

Kronicler

kabal
12-18-2007, 07:50 PM
Yeah, that would be me who Mental is referring to. This isn't really the place to have this discussion, but I have been playing UGR Thresh with only 14 color sources for quite a while and I think I've been mana screwed because of it once. In like.... 200 games or something really really large. The deck is much more aggro than most builds of thresh and really takes advantage of the stifle / wasteland package as well as mental note and all sorts of stuff that at first looks like absolute jank because in the controlling versions of thresh CB is just so much better. But when I can out race goyf sligh (no joke, done it quite a few times) all of a sudden keeping people off balance for 1-4 turns with stifle and wasteland starts to seem really strong. I'll probably write up a HUGE post in the UGR thresh thread in a few weeks once I get the chance to play the deck at one more tournament so that I have some more positive results to show, but don't knock it until you try it at least.

Kronicler

What is the difference between what you are referring too and the already established tempo based version? For instance:

' Threshold ' by Steve Conway (http://www.germagic.de/dc/deck.php?id=10333) @ GenCon 18.08.2007 - Legacy Championships

creature [10]
4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Werebear

instant [28]
4 Brainstorm
4 Daze
2 Fire / Ice
4 Force of Will
3 Lightning Bolt
4 Mental Note
4 Spell Snare
3 Stifle

sorcery [4]
4 Serum Visions

land [18]
3 Flooded Strand
4 Tropical Island
4 Volcanic Island
3 Wasteland
4 Wooded Foothills

Kyachi
12-19-2007, 12:46 PM
Agreed that this isn't the place for this discussion. However, I'll still have it since I'm here. Do whatever you want, but I don't think that Threshold is threat dense enough to be more aggressive than it is right now. It just encourages you to scoop to board sweepers, more than you already do. You get into a situation in which you're going to be picking either guys (because you have ten of them) or counterspells to protect them from Deed, Wrath, Damnation, Explosives et al.

tpnp
12-27-2007, 08:25 AM
Random heads up: tourney is this weekend; anyone plan on going?

froggy
12-27-2007, 06:25 PM
still don't know yet if i'm going or not....

TheGhostofChristmasPast
12-27-2007, 11:53 PM
No Froggy makes me a sad panda. :cry: Unfortunately it is a bad time of the month for me; I'll be in Las Vegas having some real fun.

n00bas4urus_r3x
12-29-2007, 01:00 AM
yay for being in Seattle.... -_- don't forget to grab decklists!

No_Life_No_Future
12-29-2007, 01:36 PM
Im bummed i missed the tourney.... sometimes life gets in the way of magic, ugh.

Malchar
12-30-2007, 02:12 PM
My opponent and I took a split at the end. I don't know much about the other deck except that it was a variation of Landstill. This is the list that I used to take 1st-2nd:

4 mogg fanatic
4 goblin lackey
4 goblin piledriver
4 goblin matron
4 goblin ringleader

2 gempalm incinerator
2 siege-gang commander
1 kiki-jiki, mirror breaker

4 aether vial
4 swords to plowshares

5 mountain
2 plateau
4 bloodstained mire
4 wooded foothills
4 wasteland
4 rishadan port

sideboard:
1 goblin tinkerer
1 goblin king
1 goblin wizard
4 serenity
4 chalice of the void
4 morningtide

Here are the decks that I faced:
Swiss (Not sure about the order):
UGw Thresh
? (don't remember this one, possibly thresh)
White Weenie (my only match loss)
Cephalid Breakfast
UGrb Thresh
Goblins

Top 8:
Cephalid Breakfast (same player as earlier)
Thresh
Landstill (split)

The sideboard actually didn't help me very much this time. I probably misused it a bit. The significant cards were used like this:
goblin king - won the mirror match
chalice of the void - won half my games against cephalid breakfast
morningtide - won half my games against threshold

The other wins against cephalid breakfast were either from getting the nuts lackey -> warchief -> piledriver or from using the maindeck removal to take out the cephalid.

The other wins against threshold were simply because aether vial resolved and then a goblin ringleader appeared.

The goblin tinkerer came in against thresh but never got active.
Serenity came in against white weenie but never got active (although I never saw any targets anyway).
Goblin wizard also came in against white weenie but I still couldn't win that match. I don't remember if I brought in goblin wizard against thresh or not. I was planning to bring it in to turn off swords to plowshares, but simply triggering a ringleader is usually enough against thresh. I was also unhappy with Chalice of the Void against thresh. It either gets countered because it's too slow, comes in too late and doesn't touch their guys that are in play, or they just start playing 4cc creatures. Morningtide is like a one-sided wrath because it handles all their creatures that are already in play. It also ruins all their creatures up until they rebuild thresh. A final problem with chalice of the void is that it shuts off my own swords to plowshares, which is definately to the benefit of the threshold player.

I'll definately change my sideboard by next month's tournament.

moxpearl
12-30-2007, 04:10 PM
I was the Cephalid Breakfast in the Top 8. I think there were 41 players.

I didn't plan to go to this tournament, but my nephew was in town with other family, and we decided that week to go. I hadn't received my Karmic Guide in the mail nor did I own Goyfs. So, I put this list together based on a similar list I play on Magic Online Classic.

I had a great time. I've always been curious about these well attended Legacy tournaments, wishing many would cross the line to vintage. However, it turns out actually the opposite has happened. I guess players like their gofys and counterbalance/tops more than proxy moxen and flashing 20 poison tokens to the dome.

On to a mini-report.

List:
4 Force of Will
3 Cabal Therapy
2 Daze
4 Ponder
4 Brainstorm
2 Careful Study
4 Lim-Dul’s Vault

4 Cephalid Illusionist
4 Shuko
1 Nomads en-Kor
4 Narcomoeba
4 Bridge from Below
1 Flame-kin Zealot
1 Dread Return

4 Flooded Strand
4 Polluted Delta
1 Swamp
1 Plains
4 Islands
2 Underground Sea
1 Scrubland
1 Tundra

Sideboard:
2 Echoing Truth
1 Disenchant
1 Nomads en-Kor
3 Duress
4 Abeyance
2 Engineered Explosives

Match 1 – Jeremy - 4C Landstill, Lose 1-2. Deeds, swords, countermagic, EE. A bit too much hate for my deck.

Match 2 – Justin - Threshold, Win 2-0. One reason I played breakfast is because I enjoy hoping my opponent has goyfs in his hand.

Match 3 – Ben - White Stax, Win 2-1. Game 1, I name armageddon with therapy and miss, though I'm ready to win next turn. He top decks 'geddon ftw. Note, he has no idea what I'm playing. Game 2, he misboards out his supression fields, and I barely win while he has Magus of the Tabernacle, 2sphere, and 3sphere out. I bounce the 3sphere, dread return, and attack for 21. This game also involved a potential misplay on my part forgetting to fetch before milling and fortunately having an island in my last 7 cards to Dread Return against 2sphere. Game 3 was an easier win.

Match 4 – Paul - RW Goblins, Lose 1-2. Mogg Fanatic >>> Breakfast. Note, in game 3, I win if Vault hits one of 3 abeyances in 20 cards, but to no avail.

Match 5 - Tom - Ichorid , Win 2-1. This is against my nephew, who hasn't played Magic in a long time. He has fun with Ichorid at the tourney, but due to some misplays, I'm able to take in the win. Game 3 had a hilarious 7 narcomoebas in play at one point with neither of us having the combo pieces to win. This victory turns out to be for the better anyway for the two of us, as I had much better tiebreakers to make top 8 with a 4-2 record.

Match 6 – Eric - Threshold, win 2-0. Amusing highlight of the match is Eric naming "haiku" with needle. Not being able to recite the poem, I vault on my upkeep for my one Nomad en-kor and I combo out.

I squeek into 8th place as the only 4-2.

Quarterfinals, RW Goblins (rematch). Lose 1-2. Congrats Paul on the top 2. I'm still amazed you kept a game 3 hand of port, 2 vial, swords, chalice, ringleader, warchief. That was gutsy, but you drew your plateau.

Couple thoughts on the deck:
* I didn't get my Shaman en-Kor in the mail, so I didn't have a 2cc targeting creature. This really hurt me against Chalice for 1.
* Yes, adding green with goyfs and tutors probably makes the deck more consistent, but if you don't own gofys, this deck build is rather resilient against wasteland.

Good seeing everyone at the tournament.

thelfj
12-30-2007, 06:04 PM
I top 8ed with u/g thresh

the top 8 was: Goblins, landstill, Breakfast, MUC, Red Thresh, 2 Black Thresh and U/G thresh

My pairings were kinda rediculous,
Round 1. Red Thresh (2-1) I punt game 2 but the match is really in my favor so even when i play poorly i should still win
Round 2. Red Thresh (2-1) Game 2 i loose to fledgeling dragon so i board in a few blue blasts. I really cant loose this match
Round 3. White Thresh (i think it was 2-1) i get wreked Game 1 but take Games 2 and 3 with relative ease
Round 4. Black/ White Thresh (2-0) game 2 comes down to me hitting one of my trygon Predetors to block his mystic enforecer and attack for the win. i Hit it after spinning top and then shuffleing and then palying a ponder and shuffleing. it was pretty lucky. apparently i didnt realize that my goyf was a 6/7 anyway so i could have just attacked for the win... who knew
Round 5. ID with Mono Blue One of my good friends and we are the only 4-0s
Round 6. ID with Black Thresh
Top 8. Black Thresh i loose in a quick 2... i dont draw enough Creatures. Game 1 i loose to the card advantage Generated by Bob, Game 2 i loose to tombstalker...i have no outs really to this guy.

Basically, I got the best pairing that i could get. My list was really metaed against thresh

Im pretty sure my list was:
4 Tropical Island
4 Wasteland
2 Island
1 Forest
2 Windswept Heath
1 Wooded Foothills
2 Flooded Strand
2 Polluted Delta

4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Stifle
3 Daze
3 Spell Snare
3 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Counterbalance
3 Serum Visions
3 Ponder
2 Threads of Disloyalty

4 Nimble Mongoose
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Wearbear

SB:
3 Tormod's Crypt
4 Hydroblast
1 Blue Elemental Blast
2 Trygon Predetor
1 Wearbear
4 Pithing Needle

In retrospect i think that given the meta so dominated by thresh the black splash is probs a really good choice i dont really know...

Citrus-God
12-31-2007, 03:54 PM
I think what cost me my 2nd match was the misplay with Dragon... *sigh...

kabal
12-31-2007, 04:23 PM
I think what cost me my 2nd match was the misplay with Dragon... *sigh...

What did you decklist look like?

lukatron2
01-02-2008, 12:19 PM
My opponent and I took a split at the end. I don't know much about the other deck except that it was a variation of Landstill. This is the list that I used to take 1st-2nd:

4 mogg fanatic
4 goblin lackey
4 goblin piledriver
4 goblin matron
4 goblin ringleader

2 gempalm incinerator
2 siege-gang commander
1 kiki-jiki, mirror breaker

4 aether vial
4 swords to plowshares

5 mountain
2 plateau
4 bloodstained mire
4 wooded foothills
4 wasteland
4 rishadan port

sideboard:
1 goblin tinkerer
1 goblin king
1 goblin wizard
4 serenity
4 chalice of the void
4 morningtide

Here are the decks that I faced:
Swiss (Not sure about the order):
UGw Thresh
? (don't remember this one, possibly thresh)
White Weenie (my only match loss)
Cephalid Breakfast
UGrb Thresh
Goblins

Top 8:
Cephalid Breakfast (same player as earlier)
Thresh
Landstill (split)

The sideboard actually didn't help me very much this time. I probably misused it a bit. The significant cards were used like this:
goblin king - won the mirror match
chalice of the void - won half my games against cephalid breakfast
morningtide - won half my games against threshold

The other wins against cephalid breakfast were either from getting the nuts lackey -> warchief -> piledriver or from using the maindeck removal to take out the cephalid.

The other wins against threshold were simply because aether vial resolved and then a goblin ringleader appeared.

The goblin tinkerer came in against thresh but never got active.
Serenity came in against white weenie but never got active (although I never saw any targets anyway).
Goblin wizard also came in against white weenie but I still couldn't win that match. I don't remember if I brought in goblin wizard against thresh or not. I was planning to bring it in to turn off swords to plowshares, but simply triggering a ringleader is usually enough against thresh. I was also unhappy with Chalice of the Void against thresh. It either gets countered because it's too slow, comes in too late and doesn't touch their guys that are in play, or they just start playing 4cc creatures. Morningtide is like a one-sided wrath because it handles all their creatures that are already in play. It also ruins all their creatures up until they rebuild thresh. A final problem with chalice of the void is that it shuts off my own swords to plowshares, which is definately to the benefit of the threshold player.

I'll definately change my sideboard by next month's tournament.


You took first with a 56 card deck!?...WTF...hahah

ps...could someone just post what the top 8 looked like

gustoh
01-02-2008, 01:46 PM
You took first with a 56 card deck!?...WTF...hahah

ps...could someone just post what the top 8 looked like

Top 8 was:

MUC (Eric)
Threshold UG (Ari)
Threshold UGB (Hawkins)
Threshold UGR (Travis)
Goblins UW (dude above)
Threshold UBG (Justin)
Landstill WUB (Bearmon)
Breakfast with Shuko (Tom)

I fucked up and lost the Gobs mirror and didn't make top 8

LT...

AnwarA101
01-02-2008, 02:03 PM
Will someone be posting all Top 8 decklists? Also can anyone verify the number of players? I see that moxpearl believes there were around 41. This would be a good tournament to add to the Historical T8 thread. Any help is appreciated.

Btw, is it possible for Threshold to put up anymore T8s? Its like everywhere!

gustoh
01-02-2008, 04:26 PM
Will someone be posting all Top 8 decklists? Also can anyone verify the number of players? I see that moxpearl believes there were around 41. This would be a good tournament to add to the Historical T8 thread. Any help is appreciated.

Btw, is it possible for Threshold to put up anymore T8s? Its like everywhere!

I'm not sure if anyone was gathering decklist this time around. Last month we had 49 and the decklist are up on page 2.

LT...

n00bas4urus_r3x
01-02-2008, 10:55 PM
We might, I have to talk to Kyachi and see if he got the lists. If so, they should be up soon.

thelfj
01-03-2008, 03:45 AM
Top 8 was:

MUC (Eric)
Threshold UG (Ari)
Threshold UGB (Hawkins)
Threshold UGR (Travis)
Goblins UW (dude above)
Threshold UBG (Justin)
Landstill WUB (Bearmon)
Breakfast with Shuko (Tom)

I fucked up and lost the Gobs mirror and didn't make top 8

Edit: no one gathered top 8 decklists

LT...

for the record, the MUC palyer's name is ben not eric

Edit: no one gathered the decklists...sorry

moxpearl
01-03-2008, 06:24 PM
Will someone be posting all Top 8 decklists? Also can anyone verify the number of players? I see that moxpearl believes there were around 41. This would be a good tournament to add to the Historical T8 thread. Any help is appreciated.

Btw, is it possible for Threshold to put up anymore T8s? Its like everywhere!

I confirmed with the owner. It was 42 players.

thelfj
01-03-2008, 06:33 PM
Ben (the MUC player posted his list in the muc forum...here it is

"Decklist!
Instants:
3x Brainstorm
3x Fact or Fiction
3x Thirst for Knowledge
4x Force of Will
3x Force Spike
1x Spell Snare (think of it as a 4th Spike)
2x Counterspell

Sorceries:
Pshaw who plays sorceries?

Artifacts:
3x Vedalkan Shackles
3x Engineered Explosives
4x Chalice of the Void

Enchantments:
4x Back to Basics

Creatures:
2x Meloku
1x Morphling

Lands:
3x Polluted Delta
3x Flooded Strand
1x Plains
1x Swamp
16x Island

Sideboard:
4x Blue Elemental Blast
3x Propaganda
1x Vedalkan Shackles
3x Tormod's Crypt
3x Threads of Disloyalty (Completely Random! Never boarded them!)
1x Fact or Fiction (15th card!)"

so thats 4 of the lists...in order the top 8 was:
1-2 split. Goblins (list posted)
1-2 split. Landstill
3-4. Black Thresh
3-4. Red Thresh
5-8. Breakfast (list posted)
5-8. MUC (List posted)
5-8. U/G thresh (list posted)
5-8. Black Thresh

n00bas4urus_r3x
01-03-2008, 08:05 PM
Yeah, lists weren't grabbed. Did Jason make you guys write them down? If so, someone should ask for them and post them. I would, but living like an hour away I don't really feel like driving in just for the lists.

AnwarA101
01-03-2008, 09:33 PM
Yeah, lists weren't grabbed. Did Jason make you guys write them down? If so, someone should ask for them and post them. I would, but living like an hour away I don't really feel like driving in just for the lists.

Someone posted the T8 for the last one. I'm not sure who did that, but it would be great to add it to the Historical T8 thread as we have the last one. The January update will be happening in the next few days so if someone could get them, we can wait a few days to include this tournament. If not, it can be added later if the decklists ever resurface.

n00bas4urus_r3x
01-03-2008, 09:34 PM
Someone posted the T8 for the last one. I'm not sure who did that, but it would be great to add it to the Historical T8 thread as we have the last one. The January update will be happening in the next few days so if someone could get them, we can wait a few days to include this tournament. If not, it can be added later if the decklists ever resurface.

Yeah, that was me. I missed this one and thus wasn't able to get the decklists.

thelfj
01-03-2008, 10:33 PM
Jason didnt have us write them down... if you get bierman, hawkins, travis, and the other guy who's name i forgot to post their decklists then we will have them all.... write now we have
a 1-2
and 3 5-8 decklists

someone_unimportant
01-04-2008, 09:59 AM
RE: Vintage players going to Legacy

Tom, I'm fairly certain you're talking about Xiphosura as you and I had this conversation at the 1.5. We stopped going to the Vintage tournaments for a couple reasons. One, a lot of us have gone off to college and are unable to attend tourneys in MN. Two, the few of us that remain here simply don't like the new Vintage meta. I can't speak for the others, but I simply don't enjoy playing against Flash, and even GAT. I want my Drain decks/non-Gush Combo decks back! I find Legacy to be a more fun format (as long as you're not playing the Thresh mirror ... that's soooo boring), so I went to the 1.5 instead of the type 1 this month. I would probably bring Long to the next Vintage (on the 14th of January by the way ... you Legacy players should go! 15 proxies!), but other events sadly preclude me going. I may be able to go to the February one, however, and hope to see you (and maybe more than 15 people? we used to get like 30 before June 20th ...)

RE: Thread
I was the MUC player, and if anyone cares to check the report is in the MUC thread. B2B is nuts in our meta. Just glad I didn't have to play against the Gobs player :smile: Maybe the Thresh decks will eventually get hated out so I can bring back my favorite deck. IGGY POP FTW!!!

Malchar
01-04-2008, 07:12 PM
You took first with a 56 card deck!?...WTF...hahah

ps...could someone just post what the top 8 looked like

forgot to list 4x goblin warchief, nothing amazing.
my name's Paul by the way.

moxpearl
01-04-2008, 07:15 PM
RE: Vintage players going to Legacy
Tom, I'm fairly certain you're talking about Xiphosura as you and I had this conversation at the 1.5. We stopped going to the Vintage tournaments for a couple reasons. One, a lot of us have gone off to college and are unable to attend tourneys in MN. Two, the few of us that remain here simply don't like the new Vintage meta. I can't speak for the others, but I simply don't enjoy playing against Flash, and even GAT. I want my Drain decks/non-Gush Combo decks back! I find Legacy to be a more fun format (as long as you're not playing the Thresh mirror ... that's soooo boring), so I went to the 1.5 instead of the type 1 this month. I would probably bring Long to the next Vintage (on the 14th of January by the way ... you Legacy players should go! 15 proxies!), but other events sadly preclude me going. I may be able to go to the February one, however, and hope to see you (and maybe more than 15 people? we used to get like 30 before June 20th ...)


More than your team (which I still see as faithful to vintage), it felt like I recognized the whole room from T1 tourneys. Lenny and Xue converted. And JZ and Tschida played T1 back in the day. I have to say part of me wants to attend more Legacy tournaments as I only have the time to attend one tournament a month, if that. Also, Legacy is significantly more supported by Wizards and I can somewhat play the format Online. But possibly most of all, it was fun to be in a crowded and competitive tournament playing for nice top 4 prizes. How many communities can say they get 40+ legacy tournaments on a monthly basis! I won't at this month's vintage...I'm trying to keep that format up, but the Big4 is going to put up serious competition for Eternal players.

TheGhostofChristmasPast
01-05-2008, 03:06 PM
More than your team (which I still see as faithful to vintage), it felt like I recognized the whole room from T1 tourneys. Lenny and Xue converted. And JZ and Tschida played T1 back in the day. I have to say part of me wants to attend more Legacy tournaments as I only have the time to attend one tournament a month, if that.

It has been a long time since I have made one of Jason's Type 1 tournaments. Even the Legacy ones are tough for me to get to these days. The good news is the January tournament falls on a day that I can make it. Hopefully I see you, Tom, this month. We can relive the glory days of Vintage wars. You, LT, Xue, JZ and me. And maybe Froggy too.