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QQQ
12-13-2007, 04:02 PM
Since this year's tournaments are basically over, I was thinking it would be fun to do another one of these.

It probably should last for a week like last year. Everyone can vote for their top 10 Legacy performers from the year 2007, and the votes can be tallied for the total top 10 at the end of the week.

Some complained last year that it was a popularity contest, but since there is no real prize, I think that people will honestly vote for who they think had the best performance this year for whatever reason.

If anyone else has better ideas, please post them.

My top 10, in no particular order:

1. Zach Tartell
2. Owen Turtenwald
3. Alix Hatfield
4. Jesse Hatfield
5. Bryant Cook
6. Brian Diefendorf
7. Jeff Folinus
8. Christian Wilczek
9. Anwar Ahmad
10. Phil Stolze

Thanks to everyone for a great year in Legacy!

Wallace
12-13-2007, 04:10 PM
This is easy, Brian Diefendorf all the way. This man is sick, he top 2ed both days of the TMLO III, sick! I know he made other top 8's this year too, just don't recall where and when. Think he top 4ed the EPIC tourny...

Bryant Cook
12-13-2007, 04:19 PM
1. Brian Diefendorf
2. Anwar Ahmad
3. Bryant Cook
4. Jesse Hatfield
5. Alix Hatfield
6. Christopher Coppola
7. Zach Tartell
8. Phil Stolze
9. Jeff Folinus
10. Adam Barnello

No Order

TeenieBopper
12-13-2007, 04:26 PM
Yeah, it's pretty much:

1. Brian Diefendorf
2. everyone else

zulander
12-13-2007, 04:37 PM
Is this based off of actual tournament play or popularity?

legacyplayer0
12-13-2007, 04:40 PM
Is this based off of actual tournament play or popularity?

I don't think we'll won't know 'till it's over, but it wouldn't surprise me if it ends up that way.

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 04:46 PM
I would like to make it known, to everyone, that this QQQ guy is not a secret identity of mine.

Bryant Cook
12-13-2007, 04:49 PM
more voting.

zulander
12-13-2007, 05:18 PM
my 1-10
anyone who has multiple top 8's this year.

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 05:18 PM
Alix Hatfield 5
Brian Diefendorf 5
Jeff Folinus 4
Jesse Hatfield 4
Zach Tartell 3
Bryant Cook 3
Scott Scheurer 2
Anwar Ahmad 2
Phil Stolze 2
Shane Flanigan 2
Cody Mannion 2
Jesse Kreiger 2
David Caplan 2
Bennet Toms 1
Nat Howland 1
Kyle Dargan 1
Dave Price 1
Brandon Lepage 1
James Mankins 1
Justin Valley 1
Jason Richardson 1
Matt Abold 1
John Lacasse 1
Geoff Smelski 1
Michael Keller 1
AJ Ryfun 1
Aaron Sciore 1
Andrew Berke 1
Zohar Bhagat 1
Robert Vroman 1
Raymond Robilliard 1
Jacob Riehm 1
Jason Jaco 1
Michael Turpyn 1
Peter Olszewski 1
Ryan Trepainer 1
James King 1
Steve Conway 1
Marty Birthelmer 1
Ernest Truck 1
Dean Bliz 1
Tariq White 1
Jesse Robinson 1
Trevor Brown 1
Jared Zimmer 1
Damon Whitby 1
Rich Meyst 1
Justin Brinner 1
Jeff Kowalczyk 1
Matt Denham 1
Adrian Perez 1
Christopher Coppola 1
Aniel Seetharam 1
Zac Rider 1
Jason Wallace 1


The preceding is a list of everyone who made it into a top 8 tournament in an American tournament during the last year followed by the number of instances. I'm pretty sure that the names aren't sorted by any particular way, first or last.

Di
12-13-2007, 05:22 PM
It's unfortunate my 4 top4+ showings this year in dual land drafts (August-November) happened to be before we implemented the 33 person rule, otherwise I'd be sitting at the top :p

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 05:28 PM
It's unfortunate my 4 top4+ showings this year in dual land drafts (August-November) happened to be before we implemented the 33 person rule, otherwise I'd be sitting at the top :p

If that were the case then Adam Barnello would be on the list, Matt Abold would have three, I'd have four, Trevor Brown would have two, John Lacass would have at least two, and... I can't think of any other differences.

QQQ
12-13-2007, 05:34 PM
That is very cool for Zach to compile all of that information, but I don't think that it's fair to only judge on Top 8 results from here.

For instance, I included Owen for top 2-ing Columbus, as well as winning a few smaller midwest tournaments.

I think that deck choice (Owen beating Flash with Goblins, or Enchantress being revived) as well as what tournaments done well in might have as much importance as simple numbers.

Getsickanddie
12-13-2007, 05:38 PM
Alix Hatfield
Brian Diefendorf
Jeff Folinus
Jesse Hatfield
Zach Tartell
Bryant Cook
Anwar Ahmad
Phil Stolze
Shane Flanigan
Jesse Kreiger

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 05:46 PM
I should mention that I did not record Flash-legal events. Sorry everybody who cared about that.

Michael Keller
12-13-2007, 06:36 PM
Michael Keller 1


Not that it matters, but that number should read 2.

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 06:42 PM
Not that it matters, but that number should read 2.

Nope. That's only from events that had 50+ people, and, after the change, 33+ men tournaments.

Else, as Di described, He would have 4, Trevor at least 2, Me 4, Bryant 4 or 5, and several other changes.

Whit3 Ghost
12-13-2007, 06:44 PM
Dave Caplan
Lam Pham (sp?)
Brandon Adams
Zach Tartell
Bryant Cook
Jeff Folinus
Friendly Phil Stolze
Alix Hatfield
Jesse Hatfield
Brian Diefendorf

This is obviously not in order

freakish777
12-13-2007, 09:16 PM
In no particular order

Brian Diefendorf
Jeff Folinus
Phil Stolze
Jesse Hatfield
Alix Hatfield

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 09:21 PM
I"m actually going to put an order to this, so bear with me:


Jesse Hatfield - He hit GenCon, which was the largest non-GP event that we took into account. I know that he only had three hits, but he's an amazing player. He's a little weirder and less talkative than his brother, and he doesn't have the hat, but he's really good at magic.
Alix Hatfield - Maybe being awesome is genetic or something. Or his mom is actually Richard Garfield in disguise. Not his dad, huh? Maybe I'm high. In any event, he started the year strong, and kept it up. Not like that several-hit wonder Zach Tartell. He, like his brother was active at GenCon, though in the Legacy Prelim, and helped make what Thresh what it is today. Also, his last name is a type of Breakfast list.
Bryant Cook - Two of this three top 8's were first places, and all three were with a deck that he created. Seriously. In.
Bryan Diefendorf - It's not everyday that a player's achievements can be described as Back-to-Back-to-Back. Diefendorf's consistency as an awesome player is undeniable, but he didn't make first, or second, or third because hasn't made a deck. To be fair, he did make some impressive waves with RGBSA, but that's not enough to me. Survival players don't run to Bryan asking his thoughts on how many Baloths to run, or the land configuration. Like, the Hatfields are the Kings of Thresh. Bryant MADE TES. Bryan is a player not confined by a deck, which is good, but he hasn't created a deck (or idea)(or archtype) either.
Jeff Folinus - Jeff is goblins. His lack of frequent postage here isn't a detriment to his awesomeness, it just means that you have to go elsewhere to hear his gospel. He has made 4 top 8's with it, all with splashes including, but not limited to, white, and all at Ray Robillard's events. Weird, huh?
Anwar Ahmad - Anwar's two top 8's were both at tournaments with me, which makes me like him. They were also both with a deck that he (essentially or completely - I feel that this is unclear) created. To top it off, the deck that he's currently tooling around with includes the Menorah of Twanos. I dig it.
Jesse Kreiger - In addition to being an awesome guy, Kreiger is a solid Breakfast and Thresh player. I know that he also falls into the unfortunate group of folks whose numbers would be boosted if the Rule of 33 was instituted a month or two early. He was the first guy that I heard of who had Terravore in his Thresh board, and (if Arrogant Bastard-soaked memories serve correctly) was at Allen Sorenson's shindig before the NoVa event.
Zach Tartell - Being humble and putting two guys with fewer stats in front of me can only carry on for so long. I'm fucking awesome. In fifteen days I put up three top 8's. In subsequent tournaments I've won enough beat revised lands to make slightly more than half a playset - 24. I championed a deck that not only used to, but continues to suck. To be fair, I haven't put up big numbers recently (Eli's DLD was the last event I didn't suck at), but I was the first guy to wear the title "Back-to-Back-to-Back top 8-er." Also, I piss excellence.
Phil Stolze - Friendly Phil is the only player to put up significant numbers with 3c AS, and he's really friendly. He has recently played Aluren to a noteworthy finish, and he's really friendly. He also did something significant that got him to go with Gearhart to that one GP in Hawaii, or whatever. He's a solid player, and a friendly guy. Incidentally, he's very friendly.
Shane Flanigan - Shane's knowledge of decks is only slightly wider than his ass, and that's saying something. A great guy who wins with decks that attack with creatures! Weird, right? He knows all sorts of tech, almost played Battle of Wits at TMLO:III, and helped get me into the game.



The following gentlemen get honorable mentions:

Scott Scheurer - Scott played 59 Card Landstill to a Top 8 without even playing a top 8 match. He was also, to my knowledge, the first person to put Tarmogoyf into a dedicated control deck. I also heard he cut the goggles, which is good.
Cody Mannion - He won a Mox Ruby at a Syracuse event, which was cool, and also plays largely creature-based decks, which are probably my favorite kind. His Asian-4th edition Triskelion made me start pimping out my Survival, and his savage "Knowing when not to dredge" skills made him top 8 Kaddy's 3rd DLD instead of me. Asshat. The reason he's not in over Shane is that he looks like a child.
David Caplan - I have no idea who the fuck Dave Caplan is. I honestly just typed his name "Rich" Caplan over Dave, then went back to fix it because it'd make me look like a raging Douche Bag.


I think that's about it. If this were "Best Legacy Players" top 10 then I'd probably sneak Adam Barnello in, not only because I have a woody for getting the Syndicate into notoriety. The Elgin family also would deserve mention, but one is too busy being banned, and the other getting married.

Who gets married?

Some notable 1-of's include Geoff Smelski, who is probably the best Legacy player that I've had the pleasure to play against, Rich Meyst, who plays Vintage pretty well and gave me some shitty cards for free, Damon Whitby, who is pretty legit in real life and top 2'd TMLO:III as well as taking the time to sign half of Dragon Stompy for me, and Matt Abold, who only plays burn and Survival, and is ignored pretty much for those two reasons.

Hate it or love it, I'm going to get drunk.

Bryant Cook
12-13-2007, 09:28 PM
Hilarious.

revenge_inc
12-13-2007, 10:37 PM
My vote goes to Bryan Diefendorf. The man has had so many top 8s this year, and most of those he was 1st or 2nd.

My second pick is Ryan Trepanier. 2nd at Gen Con and a top 8 at GP Flash

Ebinsugewa
12-13-2007, 11:35 PM
Purely subjective in terms of awesome drinking buddies/people I've talked deck tech with/played etc. only:

Zach Tartell
Alix Hatfield
Jesse Hatfield
Bryant Cook
Brian Diefendorf
Aaron Sciore
Dan Spero
Dave Gearhart

Evn Tomeny not on this list for obvious reasons.

Zach Tartell
12-13-2007, 11:37 PM
Zach Tartell

I will give you six dollars.

Ebinsugewa
12-13-2007, 11:50 PM
I will give you six dollars.

That's like at least six Grozoths.

Ebinsugewa
12-13-2007, 11:54 PM
Evn Tomeny not on this list for obvious reasons.

Quoting myself for emphasis.

Tacosnape
12-14-2007, 12:14 AM
I should get some sort of points for being 46-1-1* in sanctioned Tournament matches since the banning of Flash**. Shame all the Tournaments were in the 10-18 player range. I really wish I was rich and could travel.

*At least 20 of these wins were against real, skilled, competent opponents, too. That's...almost half. That's...good, right?

**Flash was not a happy time for me, as it was the only tournament of any size I've ever attended and not made Top 8 in, thanks to my anti-Flash Goblins losing to Landstill and Burn.

Bovinious
12-14-2007, 12:47 AM
Shouldnt there be a poll for this?

GreenOne
12-14-2007, 09:11 AM
Dave Gearhart
Zach Tartell
Bryant Cook
Mike Herbig

I'd say some more, but know only their nick on the source.

Forgot to mention that Dave Gearhart is awesome.

on1y0ne
12-14-2007, 09:52 AM
Herbig, due to his awesomeness.

That would be the entire All-Star team. The rest of us are not worthy enough to be considered equals to Him.

Bryant Cook
12-14-2007, 12:59 PM
Herbig, due to his awesomeness.

That would be the entire All-Star team. The rest of us are not worthy enough to be considered equals to Him.

Wow, another ran over the deer 5 times then went in reverse joke.

FakeSpam
12-14-2007, 01:17 PM
I was looking for my name, didn't see it.. and now I hate you all.

EDIT: I'm going to post an angsty blog on my myspace now.

Ta Jugs
12-14-2007, 03:25 PM
Cody Mannion - He won a Mox Ruby at a Syracuse event, which was cool, and also plays largely creature-based decks, which are probably my favorite kind. His Asian-4th edition Triskelion made me start pimping out my Survival, and his savage "Knowing when not to dredge" skills made him top 8 Kaddy's 3rd DLD instead of me. Asshat. The reason he's not in over Shane is that he looks like a child.The fuck I look like a child man that hurts....also you forgot that I top 4ed the 1st Mana Leak Open and the 2nd Mana Leak Open.

Bryant Cook
12-14-2007, 03:30 PM
1st Manaleak was sooo not this year. 2nd manaleak however was.

Ta Jugs
12-14-2007, 03:31 PM
1st Manaleak was sooo not this year. 2nd manaleak however was.I don't really care about how amazing I am...I do however care that you all think that I look like a 16 year old.

Zach Tartell
12-14-2007, 03:33 PM
The fuck I look like a child man that hurts....also you forgot that I top 4ed the 1st Mana Leak Open and the 2nd Mana Leak Open.

Yeah. You got one point for Kaddy's, and one Point for TMLO:II. A whopping total of two. You didn't make top ten because You're a heartless cock who should have dredged but instead decided to draw and got pernicous deed, then whiped the floor with me.

As for the child allegation, I ahve mistaken you for a thirteen-year-old Yugioh player on more than one occasion. This wouldn't suck so bad if you actually had a smokin' hot 35 year old mom with suprisingly perky breasts, a winning outlook on life, and a penchant for handing out free dome between rounds.

emidln
12-14-2007, 03:46 PM
David Caplan
Bryant Cook
Owen Turtenwald
Alix Hatfield

goobafish
12-14-2007, 07:28 PM
David Caplan - I have no idea who the fuck Dave Caplan is. I honestly just typed his name "Rich" Caplan over Dave, then went back to fix it because it'd make me look like a raging Douche Bag.

Probably because I am not American...

C.P.
12-14-2007, 08:03 PM
Probably because I am not American...

Seconded. This thread needs more love to Canadians.

Watcher487
12-14-2007, 08:15 PM
Damn 2 votes for me... Uhhh, I don't know what to say. Ohhh yeah, this is what you get Cody for pulling triple Sea Drakes on me at Columbus :P

Thanks to everyone that votes for me, I would love to represent this squad...(as long as Herbig is on the team.)

Getsickanddie
12-14-2007, 09:55 PM
I should get some sort of points for being 46-1-1* in sanctioned Tournament matches since the banning of Flash**. Shame all the Tournaments were in the 10-18 player range. I really wish I was rich and could travel.

*At least 20 of these wins were against real, skilled, competent opponents, too. That's...almost half. That's...good, right?

**Flash was not a happy time for me, as it was the only tournament of any size I've ever attended and not made Top 8 in, thanks to my anti-Flash Goblins losing to Landstill and Burn.

Beating up on a bunch of hillbilles who were more than likely drunk on moonshine, and thinking about banging their sisters doesn't count.

xsockmonkeyx
12-14-2007, 11:24 PM
Tournament Play
Brian Diefendorf
Alix Hatfield
Jesse Hatfield
David Caplan
Bryant Cook
Jeff Folinus
Jason Jaco
Zach Tartell

Major Contributions to the Format
Dan Spero
Gábor Lehel
Leif Whittaker
Adam Barnello
Jarno Porkka (Eldariel)
Jack Elgin
Emidln (name?)
Nihil (name?)
Matt Elgin


no order

Ebinsugewa
12-15-2007, 04:44 AM
Porkka (Eldariel)

I don't care what anyone says. That's a hardcore last name.

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-15-2007, 01:46 PM
Zach "Attack" Tarell
Adam "& Steve" Barnello
Alix "Learned the True Meaning of Christmas" Hatfield
Jesse "Elbow Fetish" Hatfield
Dan "the Combo-man" Spero
Anwar "Don't Fuck with the Hell's Angels" Ahmad
Brian "Brian" Diefendorf
Bryant "Pay Attention to Me" Cook
Parcher "No Known Aliases" Parcher

No order, but I really think Diefendorf should be number one. He's t8ed like mad and done a lot of development on important emerging decks like CRET, Breakfast, and Wish-Survival.

Honorable Mention goes to Calosso "The Source Guardian" Fuentes, for staving off the zombie hordes.

Tacosnape
12-15-2007, 01:53 PM
Beating up on a bunch of hillbilles who were more than likely drunk on moonshine, and thinking about banging their sisters doesn't count.

Cousins, thank you very much. Give us some credit. We only do family that doesn't live in the same trailer.


No order, but I really think Diefendorf should be number one. He's t8ed like mad and done a lot of development on important emerging decks like CRET, Breakfast, and Wish-Survival.


I pretty much agree.

Eldariel
12-15-2007, 02:50 PM
I don't care what anyone says. That's a hardcore last name.

Actually, it should be 'Porkka'. Nothing major - it's just that we Finns love our doubled consonants.

That was my fault. Sockmonkey had "Eldariel (name?)" I did my best to fill it in. :) Fixed x2. - Bardo, doesn't feel like spamming

EDIT: Hardly a fault. At least you remembered my name and Finnish names do probably sound weird to an English ear ^^

Bryant Cook
12-15-2007, 11:40 PM
Bryant "Pay Attention to Me" Cook


Awww. I love you too big guy.

herbig
12-17-2007, 03:08 AM
In no particular order:

1. Michael James Herbig
2. The rest

bigbear102
12-17-2007, 12:28 PM
1. Brian Diefendorf- He top 8-ed with Belcher, Breakfast, and RGBSA x3. 1 'Ballz to the wallz' combo deck, 1 calculated, protected combo deck, and survival. Pretty good considering none of those decks run the same way.
2. Alix Hatfield- Innovated both Breakfast and Thresh, 2 of the best decks to see play in Legacy
3 Jesse Hatfield- Ditto... sorry, your name comes after his due to alphabetical disadvantage.
4. Zach Tartell- I just want to take credit for getting him to play competitive Magic. Seriously though, Back-to-Back-to-Back top 8's, in his 2nd, 3rd and 4th major tournaments. Most likely his 2nd, 3rd and 4th tournaments ever.
5. Bryant Cook- Made a deck and then plays it successfully. Can't ask for much more.
6.Phil Stolze- I still say that he is not friendly... but he is good at what he does, and that is play unpopular decks to top 8's.
7. Jeff Folinus- Lackey into SGC every time. Main deck pyrokinesis to make it happen. I hate Jeff Folinus.
8. Jesse Krieger- Ditto on the Hatfields, but not as many top 8's.
9. Shane Flanigan- He takes decks that nobody likes to top 8. Nobody likes him either. Oh well, I think he is innovative and keeps people on their toes with extremely powerful aggro decks other than gobs.
10. Colin Chilbert- He may not have top 8'ed at the big events, but he did have lots of top 8's at slightly smaller events. He also plays survival to very good finishes, which makes him good in my eyes.

Zach Tartell
12-18-2007, 01:31 PM
I love the sound of my own voice, and also have a question, so I'm gonna go for some +1-ery.

Is this going anywhere?

Bardo
12-18-2007, 02:05 PM
Is this going anywhere?

Post count #51. There you go. Otherwise, no; nothing's at stake.

FWIW, I used last year's results as a pretext to write my ill-fated pre-GP Columbus article (http://www.starcitygames.com/php/news/article/14180.html). :)

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-18-2007, 03:54 PM
Why was that ill-fated(other than Californians being dirt cheaters)? I rather enjoyed that article. The fact that Smennen didn't like it should be vindication.

Nightmare
12-18-2007, 03:57 PM
Why was that ill-fated(other than Californians being dirt cheaters)? I rather enjoyed that article. The fact that Smennen didn't like it should be vindication.

Why "& Steve?"

Bardo
12-18-2007, 04:03 PM
Why was that ill-fated (other than Californians being dirt cheaters)? I rather enjoyed that article. The fact that Smennen didn't like it should be vindication.

I started writing it before Flash was un-errata'd. By the end of the month the shit had completely hit the fan and forced a bunch of rewrites which is usually not a problem, but a beast when I was coordinating and editing content for nine others.

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-18-2007, 04:13 PM
Why "& Steve?"

Adam and Steve? You haven't seen those bumper stickers?



I started writing it before Flash was un-errata'd. By the end of the month the shit had completely hit the fan and forced a bunch of rewrites which is usually not a problem, but a beast when I was coordinating and editing content for nine others.

I still consider it in the top 3 Legacy articles I've ever read. It was nice to hear people who know what they're talking about in an article, rather than Smennen bragging about how he's sure he'll "bend" the format, or pros whining about how Legacy is either unexplored or stagnant, or both.

Wallace
12-18-2007, 04:25 PM
Why "& Steve?"


Ya know, its Adam & Eve not Adam & Steve...that old joke. On a side note my two supervisors names are Adam & Steve, they hear it all the time...

Zach Tartell
12-18-2007, 04:35 PM
So... no comemorative key chains or cup holders? That's a little weak.

Phantom
12-18-2007, 04:39 PM
I still consider it in the top 3 Legacy articles I've ever read. It was nice to hear people who know what they're talking about in an article, rather than Smennen bragging about how he's sure he'll "bend" the format, or pros whining about how Legacy is either unexplored or stagnant, or both.

Agreed. And since I came up with the idea, I'm happy to hear it.

(When i suggested it, which is what i like to call documented proof, Bardo "claimed" to have already been working on it. I'm watching you Portland!)

Bardo
12-18-2007, 06:15 PM
Agreed. And since I came up with the idea, I'm happy to hear it.

(When i suggested it, which is what i like to call documented proof, Bardo "claimed" to have already been working on it. I'm watching you Portland!)

It would be a weird thing to lie about. I think I'm fair in giving credit where it's due*. Also, when you're on the schedule to write a bunch of articles, brainstorming topics is pretty routine, and a "What do others think of the format" is a pretty obvious topic. :tongue:

* Flores gave me the idea. I even linked his original article in the "All Stars" thing.

Phantom
12-18-2007, 06:30 PM
Yeah, I keep forgetting that "tone" doesn't come across well in posts. Even if I had thought you took my idea, which never even crossed my mind, the job you did with it was excellent and I feel it should be repeated (possibly at regular intervals?) now that the meta is more stable. It's just one of the things that I like to harp about, like when a Ninja deck beat out Faerie Stompy in CaNGD II...

Alright, now I'm just being a jerk.

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-18-2007, 11:52 PM
It's just one of the things that I like to harp about, like when a Ninja deck beat out Faerie Stompy in CaNGD II...

Jealous, much?

I think I'll go roll around in my prize winnings some more. That will be delicious. Mmm.

Eldariel
12-19-2007, 12:28 AM
Jealous, much?

I think I'll go roll around in my prize winnings some more. That will be delicious. Mmm.

Again, to be fair, he wasn't actually participating with Faerie Stompy, so it's hardly possible for him to be jealous for it not winning as he had nothing on the line (except prestige for a deck he'd worked on finishing in a way, of course - but seeing the deck's results, I'd think that part has been vindicated tenfold). And since I don't mind not winning (since that part wasn't up to me - there's little point in caring about something one cannot affect), I think the outcome was the best for all parties. And I'm posting too much in this thread, especially since all I'm doing is correcting trivialities, so I'll stop. Now.

Bryant Cook
12-19-2007, 01:40 AM
I thought this was a voting thread?

Phantom
12-19-2007, 02:02 AM
Jealous, much?

I think I'll go roll around in my prize winnings some more. That will be delicious. Mmm.

I frankly didn't even know whose deck that was until this second. Mt bitterness (I just realized that I spelled this wrong, but Mt. Bitterness is way too awesome to change) is more toward the judges, who really don't deserve it since they have a near thankless job (choose right, big whoop. choose wrong, hear about it for years from me). I actually think I wouldn't be bitter if it were MY deck, since I would feel vindicated, and probably jerkish for bringing it up. Instead I'm simply being petty. Also, maybe this will help people not take the results of this one so seriously.

I'm a complicated man.

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-19-2007, 08:05 AM
I frankly didn't even know whose deck that was until this second. Mt bitterness (I just realized that I spelled this wrong, but Mt. Bitterness is way too awesome to change) is more toward the judges, who really don't deserve it since they have a near thankless job (choose right, big whoop. choose wrong, hear about it for years from me). I actually think I wouldn't be bitter if it were MY deck, since I would feel vindicated, and probably jerkish for bringing it up. Instead I'm simply being petty. Also, maybe this will help people not take the results of this one so seriously.

I'm a complicated man.



Again, to be fair, he wasn't actually participating with Faerie Stompy, so it's hardly possible for him to be jealous for it not winning as he had nothing on the line (except prestige for a deck he'd worked on finishing in a way, of course - but seeing the deck's results, I'd think that part has been vindicated tenfold). And since I don't mind not winning (since that part wasn't up to me - there's little point in caring about something one cannot affect), I think the outcome was the best for all parties. And I'm posting too much in this thread, especially since all I'm doing is correcting trivialities, so I'll stop. Now.

I'm sorry, I missed all that, I was busy rolling around in my delicious prize winnings.

...Dressed as a ninja.

Phantom
12-19-2007, 12:00 PM
I'm sorry, I missed all that, I was busy rolling around in my delicious prize winnings.

...Dressed as a ninja.

Alright, now I'm jealous.

Bardo
12-21-2007, 12:56 AM
Yeah, I keep forgetting that "tone" doesn't come across well in posts. Even if I had thought you took my idea, which never even crossed my mind, the job you did with it was excellent and I feel it should be repeated (possibly at regular intervals?) now that the meta is more stable. It's just one of the things that I like to harp about, like when a Ninja deck beat out Faerie Stompy in CaNGD II...

Alright, now I'm just being a jerk.

If someone can compile the results, I might take another shot at another "All-Stars" article. I would just caution that good players do not necessarily make good writers.

Bryant Cook
12-21-2007, 02:53 AM
Zach Tartell (9 Votes)
Alix Hatfield (10 Votes)
Jesse Hatfield (9 Votes)
Bryant Cook (10 Votes)
Brian Diefendorf (10 Votes)
Jeff Folinus (7 Votes)
Anwar Ahmad (6 Votes)
Phil Stolze (5 Votes)
Jesse Krieger (3 Votes)
Mike Herbig ( 3 Votes) <- Should be Shane Flanigan but people turned in BS votes.

This is your Legacy All-Star Team.

Watcher487
12-21-2007, 08:17 AM
Zach Tartell (9 Votes)
Alix Hatfield (10 Votes)
Jesse Hatfield (9 Votes)
Bryant Cook (10 Votes)
Brian Diefendorf (10 Votes)
Jeff Folinus (7 Votes)
Anwar Ahmad (6 Votes)
Phil Stolze (5 Votes)
Jesse Krieger (3 Votes)
Mike Herbig ( 3 Votes) <- Should be Shane Flanigan but people turned in BS votes.

This is your Legacy All-Star Team.

Thanks for that little vote of confidence Mr. 0-2 drop. I would actually bet good money, if more people actually know me as opposed to most people from Cuse and the 'upper' eschlon (sp.) of Legacy, I would actually be pulling in more votes than you.

Ewokslayer
12-21-2007, 09:02 AM
Being tied with everyone sucks so I vote for Me.

Has herbig actually played magic this year?

FakeSpam
12-21-2007, 09:09 AM
Being tied with everyone sucks so I vote for Me.

Has herbig actually played magic this year?

Fine. I'll vote for you, too.

Twice.

legacyplayer0
12-21-2007, 09:35 AM
I'm voting for everyone.

Bryant Cook
12-21-2007, 11:45 AM
It's done. Too late. Suckers.

Bardo
12-21-2007, 11:52 AM
Zach Tartell (9 Votes)
Alix Hatfield (10 Votes)
Jesse Hatfield (9 Votes)
Bryant Cook (10 Votes)
Brian Diefendorf (10 Votes)
Jeff Folinus (7 Votes)
Anwar Ahmad (6 Votes)
Phil Stolze (5 Votes)
Jesse Krieger (3 Votes)
Mike Herbig ( 3 Votes)

Hmm. I received three votes too. Do mine not "count?"

TheInfamousBearAssassin
12-21-2007, 11:54 AM
And what in the flying fuck is with the lack of Jack Elgin in this thread?

Pinder
12-21-2007, 12:10 PM
And what in the flying fuck is with the lack of Jack Elgin in this thread?

Did you play magic in basic? Is there a big Legacy crowd there?

Hoojo
12-21-2007, 12:15 PM
I vote for the Elgins, because I actually play their decks.

goobafish
12-21-2007, 12:47 PM
I also got 3 or more.

Nihil Credo
12-21-2007, 12:49 PM
Did you play magic in basic?
Basic?

chmoddity
12-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Basic=basic training


Hmm. I received three votes too. Do mine not "count?"

No, Bardo. You live in too far.

Pinder
12-21-2007, 12:53 PM
Basic?

Basic Training. He's in the army. Basically boot camp.

SpatulaOfTheAges
12-21-2007, 12:54 PM
Basic training.

Elgins are pretty awesome. But if we let ourselves count, there'd only be 8 slots actually up for grabs every year, so we try to contain our mighty power.

I'm flattered I got any, but I went to two tournaments this year and didn't t8 either. Nor did I write any articles or do much deck development. Jack from what I recall did more but nothing really signifigant. I wouldn't count votes for people like us or Herbig that are known but haven't actually done anything in 2007, past contributions aside.

edit: Damn you Nick Angle.

xsockmonkeyx
12-21-2007, 01:15 PM
I voted Matt or his work on Enchantress and Elgin Zoo but mostly for being the voice of reason for the format.

I voted Jack for his work on U/B Hulk Flash, Hulk Flash era decks, and Mighty Quinn. Also, the masked man incident was quite entertaining :wink:

Bryant Cook
12-21-2007, 02:01 PM
I counted two for each of you. Double check, I skipped BS posts about nothing.

goobafish
12-21-2007, 05:05 PM
xsockmonkeyx, whiteghost, edmiln

Watcher487
12-21-2007, 05:57 PM
I counted two for each of you. Double check, I skipped BS posts about nothing.

No they both have 3 as well as Me, Herbig and Krieger. But, I'll point out that Me, Krieger and mr. caplan actually have 4 with because of zulander

Bardo
12-21-2007, 06:35 PM
I'd say anyone that doesn't have at least five* votes can't be that much of an "all-star." No?


* Or 20, for that matter.

Kenderleech
12-21-2007, 06:37 PM
Shane, and the Elgins.

Watcher487
12-21-2007, 06:44 PM
I'd say anyone that doesn't have at least five* votes can't be that much of an "all-star." No?


* Or 20, for that matter.

That's fine but I would like to point out that only 14 people have actually voted here. Personally I would probably have certain people vote over it not just have random people vote. Even though I know I would be voted out, I would actually suggest the mods and adepts vote over it. Since they should know what's going on in Legacy.

herbig
12-22-2007, 03:58 AM
Dearest Fans,

I graciously accept my induction into the 2007 Legacy All Star Team and thank all of those who voted for me. While I don't often use the term "shoe in," lets be honest, did anyone expect anything less?

Looking over the list of other inductees, I see a host of rising talent, and it is an honor for me to have been among the first to pave the way for the Legacy All Star Team, and the only one still going strong.

2007 was also the "coming out" year for our own Bryant Cook. It took amazing courage for him to do what he has done and he is an inspiration for us all. He also played some damn good Magic.

In closing I'd just like to say that I look forward to 2008, the ups and downs, twists and turns, and obscure new blue instants that will continue to make my deck the top in the field, as it has always been.

Thank you, and God bless.

Mike Herbig

Bryant Cook
12-23-2007, 12:07 AM
Someone else want to do a tally? Since I fucked up.

Watcher487
12-23-2007, 01:22 AM
Someone else want to do a tally? Since I fucked up.

Yeah you have, but that's nothing new.

Current standings.

Brian Diefendorf 11
Alix Hatfield 11
Jesse Hatfield 11
Bryant Cook 11
Zach Tartell 10
Jeff Folinus 10
Phil Stolze 7
Anwar Ahmad 6
Shane Flanigan 5
David Caplan 5
Jesse Krieger 4
Dan Spero 4
Jack Elgin 3
Matt Elgin 3
Adam Barnello 3
Brandon Adams 2
Owen Turtenwald 2
Dave Gearhart 2
Colin Chilbert 1
Parcher 1
Jason Jaco 1
Gábor Lehel 1
Leif Whittaker 1
Jarno Porkka (Eldariel) 1
Scott Scheure 1
Cody Mannion 1
Nihil (name?) 1
Mike Herbig 1
Aaron Sciore 1
Chistopher Coppola 1
Christian Wilczek 1
Ryan Trepanier 1
Lam Pham (sp?) 1

PM me or post on here correct names or stuff I missed.

emidln
12-23-2007, 01:38 AM
No idea why I'm getting votes, but my name is Brandon Adams.

ApokalypseKid9
12-24-2007, 10:51 PM
I vote gus fellows. The opponents will punch him and get dq'd for the easy win.

Bryant Cook
12-24-2007, 10:54 PM
1st-9th has been decided. How should we choose between Dave Caplan and Jesse Krieger?

Bovinious
12-24-2007, 11:10 PM
I think we can all agree that this top10 needs moar David Gearhart :wink:

Watcher487
12-24-2007, 11:25 PM
1st-9th has been decided. How should we choose between Dave Caplan and Jesse Krieger?

Screw this, Dave you have my vote. I would like to see at least one person not from VA on the list.

Congrads to everyone who made the Team.

Mister Agent
12-26-2007, 05:52 PM
I vote for Dan Spero since I have always been a huge fan of him in the format. The Raoul Duke for the win!