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matelml
12-17-2007, 04:26 PM
Hi, I would like to know if I can use Undiscovered paradise to make mana before it returns to my hand at the beginning of the turn and if I can use that mana on an Instant. I believe this is not the case but I am not sure. If so, that would be broken. I think it depends on if it returns in the upkeep or untap phase, which I think is in the untap step. Still I thought Wizards errata'd everything to not have effects in the untap step, so if it doesn't work could it still be errata'd in the future?

Thanks, Matteus

Wallace
12-17-2007, 04:50 PM
Rules Text (Oracle): http://resources.wizards.com/magic/images/symbols/tap.gif: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool. During your next untap step, as you untap your permanents, return Undiscovered Paradise to its owner's hand.

Thats how the Oracle text reads, so Undiscovered Paradise will still be tapped when it gets returned to your hand, therefore you won't have a chance to use it.

matelml
12-18-2007, 04:38 AM
Ok, too bad, thats what I thought. So is it not true Wizards avoids effects in the untap step and is this likely to be errata'd?

yawg07
12-23-2007, 01:20 PM
Ok, too bad, thats what I thought. So is it not true Wizards avoids effects in the untap step and is this likely to be errata'd?

No, because if they errata it to being on the upkeep, you could still use it to play a spell before it goes away.
There are always bound to be one or two cards that go against what Wizards "likes".