No_Life_No_Future
12-27-2007, 11:39 PM
502.56a - Ripple is a triggered ability that functions while the card with ripple is on the stack. "Ripple N" means "When you play this spell, you may reveal the top N cards of your library, or, if there are fewer than N cards in your library, you may reveal all the cards in your library. If you reveal cards from your library this way, you may play any of those cards with the same name as this spell without paying their mana costs, then put all revealed cards not played this way on the bottom of your library in any order." [CompRules 2006/07/17]
502.56b - If a spell has multiple instances of ripple, each triggers separately. [CompRules 2006/07/15]
502.56.Ruling.1 - When you play a spell with ripple, the ripple ability will resolve before the spell does. This is because Ripple triggers when the spell goes on the stack and ends up on top of it on the stack. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
502.56.Ruling.2 - You are not required to play any spells with the same name, but if you don't play them they go on the bottom of your library with the other cards. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
502.56.Ruling.3 - For each revealed card you choose to play, follow all the normal steps for playing it, though you won't have to pay its mana cost. Any additional costs are paid as normal. All cards played this way go on the stack on top of the original spell, then all abilities that trigger when you play the new spells (including their ripple abilities) go on the stack on top of them. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
Ok here is my question.
Suppose I have a Thrumming stone in play. A Salvage in the yard. A Salvage in the GY and a salvage on the top of my library.
If I play salvage targeting a salvage in my gy and the ripple goes on the stack. So the stack looks like:
Ripple
Salvage
Now The ripple resolves first so I look remove the top 4 and I can play the salvage on top of my library with no mana cost.
Do I have to play the spell immediately? As in how long do I have to play the spell. And if the card is a sorcery how am I aloud to play it with other spells and abilities on the stack?
If I have to wait until the stack clears to play the free salvage. I could wait for the first salvage to resolve and just repeat the process infinetly.
I think a similar thing could be done with sensei's top. but im not sure.
My goal is to generate an infinet storm count while sifting through my deck with the ripple and stacking it.
Which brings up another question. If I have an infinet loop and the number of cards in my library is not a multiple of 4 could I say that i repeat the loop untill my library is in a certain order?
502.56b - If a spell has multiple instances of ripple, each triggers separately. [CompRules 2006/07/15]
502.56.Ruling.1 - When you play a spell with ripple, the ripple ability will resolve before the spell does. This is because Ripple triggers when the spell goes on the stack and ends up on top of it on the stack. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
502.56.Ruling.2 - You are not required to play any spells with the same name, but if you don't play them they go on the bottom of your library with the other cards. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
502.56.Ruling.3 - For each revealed card you choose to play, follow all the normal steps for playing it, though you won't have to pay its mana cost. Any additional costs are paid as normal. All cards played this way go on the stack on top of the original spell, then all abilities that trigger when you play the new spells (including their ripple abilities) go on the stack on top of them. [Coldsnap FAQ 2006/06/14]
Ok here is my question.
Suppose I have a Thrumming stone in play. A Salvage in the yard. A Salvage in the GY and a salvage on the top of my library.
If I play salvage targeting a salvage in my gy and the ripple goes on the stack. So the stack looks like:
Ripple
Salvage
Now The ripple resolves first so I look remove the top 4 and I can play the salvage on top of my library with no mana cost.
Do I have to play the spell immediately? As in how long do I have to play the spell. And if the card is a sorcery how am I aloud to play it with other spells and abilities on the stack?
If I have to wait until the stack clears to play the free salvage. I could wait for the first salvage to resolve and just repeat the process infinetly.
I think a similar thing could be done with sensei's top. but im not sure.
My goal is to generate an infinet storm count while sifting through my deck with the ripple and stacking it.
Which brings up another question. If I have an infinet loop and the number of cards in my library is not a multiple of 4 could I say that i repeat the loop untill my library is in a certain order?