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zulander
01-08-2008, 11:46 PM
What happens when you have 2x Countryside Crusher in play?


Countryside Crusher 1rr Creature - Giant Warrior Rare
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library. If it's a land card, put it into your graveyard and repeat this process.
Whenever a land card is put into your graveyard from anywhere, put a +1/+1 counter on Countryside Crusher.

3/3

thefreakaccident
01-09-2008, 12:23 AM
The first ability triggers and therefore goes on the stack, then after the cycle of rinse/repeat finishes for the first effect; well then the other trigger resolves and you begin the process yet again.

nitewolf9
01-09-2008, 11:24 AM
Yeah, pretty much they both trigger individually but the second one to trigger will just reveal the non-land card and stop. Unless you put a shuffle effect in between, after the first one resolves, like a fetch land activation.

Lego
01-09-2008, 01:31 PM
The previous two posters were generally correct, but I'm going to break it down to a ridiculously unnecessary extent for you:

1) Both Crushers trigger, and you choose the order that they are placed on the stack.
2) Active player receives priority, both players may play spells and abilities, and then the top Crusher trigger begins to resolve.
3) Each time that a land is placed into the graveyard during the resolution of this first trigger, the second ability of both Crushers will trigger.
4) Once the first Crusher trigger finishes resolving (i.e. you reveal a non-land card) state based effects will be checked, the abilities that were triggered during the resolution of the first Crusher ability (from lands being placed into the graveyard) will be placed on the stack (if there were any,) and active player will receive priority.
5) Assuming no responses, the +1/+1 counter triggers will each resolve (individually,) and players may respond again. This is where you need to shuffle your library if you want the second Crusher to do anything.
6) The first ability of the second Crusher will resolve, and you will reveal the top card of your library. If you haven't shuffled since the last one, it will reveal a non-land card and stop. If you have shuffled, then any lands revealed will be placed into the graveyard, and the second ability of both Crushers will trigger.

Those will eventually be placed on the stack and presumably resolve, and then you're done.

Hope that helps :smile:

zulander
01-09-2008, 01:45 PM
Lol, ty lego army man. Now assuming I have a sylvan library in play, do i get to chose what to do first? I.e look at the top 3 and then arrange them in any order then have the crushers do their thing.

nitewolf9
01-09-2008, 02:01 PM
Lol, ty lego army man. Now assuming I have a sylvan library in play, do i get to chose what to do first? I.e look at the top 3 and then arrange them in any order then have the crushers do their thing.

Negative, library triggers at the beginning of your draw step I believe.


The previous two posters were generally correct, but I'm going to break it down to a ridiculously unnecessary extent for you:

1) Both Crushers trigger, and you choose the order that they are placed on the stack.
2) Active player receives priority, both players may play spells and abilities, and then the top Crusher trigger begins to resolve.
3) Each time that a land is placed into the graveyard during the resolution of this first trigger, the second ability of both Crushers will trigger.
4) Once the first Crusher trigger finishes resolving (i.e. you reveal a non-land card) state based effects will be checked, the abilities that were triggered during the resolution of the first Crusher ability (from lands being placed into the graveyard) will be placed on the stack (if there were any,) and active player will receive priority.
5) Assuming no responses, the +1/+1 counter triggers will each resolve (individually,) and players may respond again. This is where you need to shuffle your library if you want the second Crusher to do anything.
6) The first ability of the second Crusher will resolve, and you will reveal the top card of your library. If you haven't shuffled since the last one, it will reveal a non-land card and stop. If you have shuffled, then any lands revealed will be placed into the graveyard, and the second ability of both Crushers will trigger.

Those will eventually be placed on the stack and presumably resolve, and then you're done.

Hope that helps :smile:

Unnecessary. So unnecessary...

zulander
01-09-2008, 02:02 PM
Negative, library triggers at the beginning of your draw step I believe.


You win, I lose.

nitewolf9
01-09-2008, 02:39 PM
You win, I lose.

1 - 0, count starting.

freakish777
01-09-2008, 02:47 PM
However if you have Mirri's Guile in play, yes, you get to choose which order to put them on the stack in (presumably you stack Crusher then Guile, and resolve Guile first to stack a land or 2 or 3 on top).

Lego
01-09-2008, 03:46 PM
Unnecessary. So unnecessary...

It's okay, we know you were a little turned on. You can admit it :wink:


or 3 on top

In this case, stacking 3 lands is less like stacking and more like looking and putting back. Meh, Mirri's Guile is almost never better than Sensei's Divining Top. *shrug*

Ewokslayer
01-09-2008, 03:49 PM
Unnecessary. So unnecessary...

It's okay, we know you were a little turned on. You can admit it :wink:
I know it got me sporting wood.

nitewolf9
01-09-2008, 04:06 PM
It's okay, we know you were a little turned on. You can admit it :wink:


Yeah, come to think of it, I suppose I was. I love it when you talk dirty.

Sims
01-09-2008, 04:12 PM
Yeah, come to think of it, I suppose I was. I love it when you talk dirty.


Dirty talk regarding rules? Awkward....

Pinder
01-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Dirty talk regarding rules? Awkward....

Oh, come on. You know you loved when Gearhart talked about the things he used to do to the stack. Same thing here.