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Isamaru
01-11-2008, 12:57 AM
If I target Bushi Tenderfoot (http://magiccards.info/chk/en/307.html) (in the graveyard) with Loyal Retainers (http://magiccards.info/p3k/en/12.html), does he come into play flipped or normal (unflipped)?
Thanks for your help! :smile:
-Stephen
Giles
01-11-2008, 02:20 AM
Well Stephanie,
You can not target it since it not Legendary. And if you could it would be unflipped.
Huggles, Giles.
Bardo
01-11-2008, 07:37 PM
From the comp rules of "Flip Cards"
Basically, the Bushi Tenderfoot gains the Legendary supertype only when the cards meets the conditions to be flipped and not at any other time. So, no, that won't work.
Flip Cards
Flip cards, such as the "heroes" from the Champions of Kamigawa set, have a
two-part card frame on a single card. The text that appears right side up on the card defines the card's normal characteristics. Additional alternative characteristics appear upside down on the card. The back of a flip card is the normal Magic: The Gathering card back. See rule 508, "Flip Cards."
The top half of a flip card contains the card's normal name, text box, type line, power, and toughness. The text box usually contains an ability that causes the permanent to "flip" if certain conditions are met. The bottom half of a flip card contains an alternative name, text box, type line, power, and toughness. These characteristics are used only if the permanent is in play and only if the permanent has been flipped.
A flip card's color, mana cost, expansion symbol, illustration credit, and legal text don't change if the permanent has been flipped. Also, any changes to it by external effects will still apply.
In every zone other than the in-play zone, and also in the in-play zone before the permanent flips, a flip card has only the normal characteristics of the permanent. Once the flip permanent in the in-play zone has been flipped, the normal name, text box, type line, power, and toughness of the flip permanent don't apply and the alternative versions of those characteristics apply instead.
If you control a flip permanent, you must ensure that it's clear at all times whether the permanent has flipped or not, both when it's untapped and when it's tapped. Common methods for distinguishing between flipped and unflipped permanents include using coins or dice to mark flipped objects.
Flipping a permanent is a one-way process. Once a permanent has been flipped, it's impossible to flip the permanent back again. However, if flipped permanent leaves play, it forgets its previous existence.
Isamaru
01-11-2008, 07:42 PM
These characteristics are used only if the permanent is in play and only if the permanent has been flipped.
Interesting but sad... thank you nonetheless, Bardo :cool:
Watcher487
01-12-2008, 10:31 AM
Actually it gets even more interesting. With Volrath's Shapeshifter, you can end up having flipped and be able to Survival of the Fittest the 'Hero Enchantments' to actually have the Shapeshifter be a creature enchantment.
That is unless I'm wrong with that....
Anusien
01-12-2008, 06:11 PM
Negative. It will be a Legendary Enchantment.
Watcher487
01-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Negative. It will be a Legendary Enchantment.
Really??? Ohh well at least I can still attack with a flipped Akroma and flipped Phage.
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