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Nihil Credo
01-13-2008, 04:11 PM
I wanted to post this in the Morningtide discussion thread, but there's no spoiler feature on the boards and I didn't want to clog up that page.

This is Game 1 against straight GWr Enchantress (lots of basics) with Aggro Loam. My list runs 27 lands, btw.

0.00.09 [Nihil] Nihil draws 7 cards
0.00.10 [Legend] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.00.11 [Legend] Legend shuffles library
0.00.11 [Legend] Legend draws 7 cards
0.00.15 [Legend] <Legend> kp
0.00.17 [Nihil] <Nihil> kp
0.00.18 [Legend] Legend plays Forest from Hand
0.00.20 [Legend] Legend taps Forest
0.00.21 [Legend] Utopia Sprawl is enchanting Forest now
0.00.22 [Legend] Legend puts Utopia Sprawl into play from Hand
0.00.22 [Legend] <Legend> Ok?
0.00.22 [Nihil] <Nihil> Ok
0.00.26 [Legend] Forest's note changed: White
0.00.30 [Legend] <Legend> End my turn
0.00.31 [Nihil] It is now turn 2 (Nihil)
0.00.31 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.00.31 [Nihil] Nihil untaps his/her permanents
0.00.31 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0.00.32 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.00.32 [Nihil] Nihil draws a card
0.00.32 [Nihil] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.00.35 [Nihil] Nihil plays Bayou from Hand
0.00.36 [Nihil] Nihil plays Thoughtseize from Hand
0.00.36 [Nihil] Nihil taps Bayou
0.00.40 [Legend] Legend plays Words of War from Hand
0.00.41 [Legend] Legend plays Argothian Enchantress from Hand
0.00.41 [Legend] Legend plays Windswept Heath from Hand
0.00.41 [Legend] Legend plays Solitary Confinement from Hand
0.00.41 [Legend] Legend plays Serra's Sanctum from Hand
0.00.46 [Legend] Legend sacrifices Argothian Enchantress
0.00.46 [Nihil] Nihil's life total is now 18 (-2)
0.00.47 [Nihil] Nihil puts Thoughtseize to Graveyard from Play
0.00.48 [Nihil] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0.00.48 [Legend] Legend puts Serra's Sanctum to Hand from Play
0.00.48 [Legend] Legend puts Words of War to Hand from Play
0.00.48 [Legend] Legend puts Windswept Heath to Hand from Play
0.00.48 [Legend] Legend puts Solitary Confinement to Hand from Play
0.00.49 [Nihil] <Nihil> End my turn
0.00.50 [Legend] It is now turn 3 (Legend)
0.00.50 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.00.50 [Legend] Legend untaps his/her permanents
0.00.51 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.00.52 [Legend] Legend draws a card
0.00.53 [Legend] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.00.55 [Legend] Legend plays Windswept Heath from Hand
0.00.56 [Legend] Legend taps Windswept Heath
0.01.00 [Nihil] <Nihil> Ok
0.01.00 [Legend] Legend sacrifices Windswept Heath
0.01.01 [Legend] Legend's life total is now 19 (-1)
0.01.01 [Legend] Legend is looking its Library...
0.01.02 [Legend] Legend puts Forest into play from Library
0.01.03 [Legend] Legend shuffles library
0.01.03 [Legend] Legend stops looking its Library...
0.01.06 [Legend] Legend taps Forest
0.01.07 [Legend] Utopia Sprawl is enchanting Forest now
0.01.07 [Legend] Legend puts Utopia Sprawl into play from Hand
0.01.08 [Nihil] <Nihil> Ok
0.01.09 [Legend] Forest's note changed: Red
0.01.12 [Legend] <Legend> End my turn
0.01.12 [Nihil] It is now turn 4 (Nihil)
0.01.12 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.01.13 [Nihil] Nihil untaps his/her permanents
0.01.13 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0.01.14 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.01.14 [Nihil] Nihil draws a card
0.01.14 [Nihil] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.01.16 [Nihil] Nihil plays Forgotten Cave from Hand
0.01.17 [Nihil] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0.01.19 [Nihil] <Nihil> End my turn
0.01.20 [Legend] It is now turn 5 (Legend)
0.01.20 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.01.22 [Legend] Legend untaps his/her permanents
0.01.23 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.01.24 [Legend] Legend draws a card
0.01.24 [Legend] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.01.32 [Legend] Legend plays Serra's Sanctum from Hand
0.01.41 [Legend] Legend taps Forest
0.01.46 [Legend] Legend taps Serra's Sanctum
0.01.48 [Legend] Legend plays Words of War from Hand
0.01.53 [Nihil] <Nihil> Ok
[Legend activates WoW to avoid mana burn]
0.02.03 [Legend] <Legend> End my turn
0.02.03 [Nihil] <Nihil> k
0.02.05 [Nihil] <Nihil> Thinking
0.02.11 [Nihil] It is now turn 6 (Nihil)
0.02.11 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.02.11 [Nihil] Nihil untaps his/her permanents
0.02.11 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0.02.12 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.02.12 [Nihil] Nihil draws a card
0.02.12 [Nihil] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.02.13 [Nihil] Nihil plays Wooded Foothills from Hand
0.02.15 [Nihil] Nihil sacrifices Wooded Foothills
0.02.16 [Nihil] Nihil's life total is now 17 (-1)
0.02.17 [Nihil] Nihil is looking its Library...
0.02.20 [Nihil] Nihil puts Taiga into play from Library
0.02.21 [Nihil] Nihil shuffles library
0.02.21 [Nihil] Nihil stops looking its Library...
0.02.37 [Nihil] Nihil taps Bayou
0.02.37 [Nihil] Nihil taps Forgotten Cave
0.02.37 [Nihil] Nihil taps Taiga
0.02.38 [Nihil] Nihil plays Countryside Crusher from Hand
0.02.40 [Nihil] It is now the End Phase, End Of Turn Step
0.02.41 [Nihil] <Nihil> End my turn
0.03.25 [Legend] It is now turn 7 (Legend)
0.03.25 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.03.26 [Legend] Legend untaps his/her permanents
0.03.27 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0.03.28 [Legend] It is now the Beginning Phase, Draw Step
0.03.34 [Legend] Legend draws a card
0.03.34 [Legend] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.04.37 [Legend] <Legend> End my turn
0.04.40 [Nihil] <Nihil> k
0.04.41 [Nihil] It is now turn 8 (Nihil)
0.04.41 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Untap Step
0.04.42 [Nihil] Nihil untaps his/her permanents
0.04.42 [Nihil] It is now the Beginning Phase, Upkeep Step
0.04.44 [Nihil] Nihil puts Taiga into play from Library
0.04.45 [Nihil] Nihil puts Taiga to Graveyard from Play
0.04.46 [Nihil] Nihil puts Tranquil Thicket into play from Library
0.04.47 [Nihil] Nihil puts Tranquil Thicket to Graveyard from Play
0.04.48 [Nihil] Nihil puts Badlands into play from Library
0.04.49 [Nihil] Nihil puts Badlands to Graveyard from Play
0.04.49 [Nihil] Nihil puts Mountain into play from Library
0.04.50 [Nihil] Nihil puts Mountain to Graveyard from Play
0.04.51 [Nihil] <Nihil> lol
0.04.52 [Nihil] Nihil puts Wasteland into play from Library
0.04.53 [Nihil] Nihil puts Wasteland to Graveyard from Play
0.04.54 [Nihil] Nihil puts Tarmogoyf into play from Library
0.04.56 [Nihil] Nihil puts Tarmogoyf to Hand from Play 0.04.57 [Nihil] It is now the Precombat Main Phase
0.05.01 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 9/9
0.05.01 [Legend] <Legend> uff
0.05.04 [Nihil] <Nihil> broken much? :D
0.05.09 [Nihil] Nihil plays Wooded Foothills from Hand
0.05.10 [Nihil] Nihil sacrifices Wooded Foothills
0.05.11 [Nihil] Nihil's life total is now 16 (-1)
0.05.13 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 10/10
0.05.14 [Nihil] Nihil is looking its Library...
0.05.19 [Nihil] Nihil puts Taiga into play from Library
0.05.20 [Nihil] Nihil shuffles library
0.05.20 [Nihil] Nihil stops looking its Library...
0.05.33 [Nihil] Nihil taps Forgotten Cave
0.05.34 [Nihil] Nihil taps Bayou
0.05.34 [Nihil] Nihil plays Tarmogoyf from Hand
0.05.36 [Legend] <Legend> Ok
0.05.38 [Nihil] Tarmogoyf is now 0/1
0.05.38 [Nihil] Tarmogoyf is now 1/2
0.05.38 [Nihil] Tarmogoyf is now 2/3
0.05.38 [Nihil] Tarmogoyf is now 3/4
0.05.42 [Nihil] Nihil taps Taiga
0.05.42 [Nihil] Nihil taps Taiga
0.05.43 [Nihil] Nihil plays Devastating Dreams from Hand
0.05.44 [Nihil] Nihil discards a card at random: Tranquil Thicket
0.05.45 [Nihil] Nihil discards a card at random: Tranquil Thicket
0.05.46 [Nihil] Nihil discards a card at random: Countryside Crusher
0.05.48 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 11/11
0.05.48 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 12/12
0.05.52 [Nihil] <Nihil> x=3
0.05.57 [Nihil] Nihil puts Bayou to Graveyard from Play
0.05.57 [Nihil] Nihil puts Forgotten Cave to Graveyard from Play
0.05.57 [Nihil] Nihil puts Taiga to Graveyard from Play
0.05.59 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 13/13
0.05.59 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 14/14
0.05.59 [Nihil] Countryside Crusher is now 15/15
0.06.05 [Legend] Legend sacrifices Forest
0.06.06 [Legend] Legend sacrifices Serra's Sanctum
0.06.15 [Legend] Legend sacrifices Forest
0.06.16 [Legend] Legend's life total is now 16 (-3)
0.06.18 [Legend] <Legend> lol
0.06.21 [Nihil] Nihil puts Devastating Dreams to Graveyard from Play
0.06.22 [Legend] Legend's life total is now 13 (-3)
0.06.25 [Legend] Legend's life total is now 19 (+6)
0.06.26 [Nihil] Tarmogoyf is now 4/5
0.06.30 [Nihil] It is now the Combat Phase, Declare Attackers Step
0.06.31 [Nihil] Nihil taps Countryside Crusher
0.06.32 [Nihil] <Nihil> omg
0.06.35 [Legend] <Legend> lol
0.06.39 [Nihil] <Nihil> i'm saving this log
0.06.41 [Legend] <Legend> g2?
0.06.43 [Nihil] <Nihil> sure
0.06.44 [Legend] <Legend> hahahah

G2 I had another Countryside Crusher that was less broken - it only killed in two swings: 4/4 the first time, because I had to pay for Elephant Grass; 13/13 the next turn after I Reverent Silenced his board and cycled a couple of Thickets.

Anyway, I just wanted to share this turn 4 win because it was awesome, but I'd like to note that even had I been unable to go so all-in (for example if I was fearing removal and/or counters), Crusher would have been no less absurd. Moreover, I'd like to note that the game 1 above did not feature, or even need, Life from the Loam.
Eldariel
01-13-2008, 04:19 PM
What can I say, Loam-based strategies just got MUCH scarier and MUCH more resilient to graveyard hate. Tarmogoyf didn't hurt that at all. I absolutely hate the idea of playing fair against anything of the sort. Of course the simple answer is to not-play-fair, but still, a 3-mana 20/20 sounds like 'Tog, except 5 turns faster. Of course, it dies to all Goyf-killers, but at some point your deck has so many huge mofos that opponent runs out of removal first.
zulander
01-13-2008, 04:20 PM
It is pretty good, he's damn good in my testing.
Volt
01-13-2008, 04:23 PM
Did Mind Harness just get better?
zulander
01-13-2008, 04:33 PM
Did Mind Harness just get better?

Against loam, yes. Against the format, meh, and that's only because goyf is played so much.
Giles
01-13-2008, 04:39 PM
Did Mind Harness just get better?


Yes it did. Although you really need to time it since you will not draw any lands once it is targeted.
Nihil Credo
01-13-2008, 06:16 PM
What can I say, Loam-based strategies just got MUCH scarier and MUCH more resilient to graveyard hate. Tarmogoyf didn't hurt that at all. I absolutely hate the idea of playing fair against anything of the sort. Of course the simple answer is to not-play-fair, but still, a 3-mana 20/20 sounds like 'Tog, except 5 turns faster. Of course, it dies to all Goyf-killers, but at some point your deck has so many huge mofos that opponent runs out of removal first.

Absolutely agree. I just had a game vs. UGB Thresh that can be summed up as: Vore? Counter. Burning Wish? Counter, play Mongoose. Vore? Ghastly Demise, beat with Mongoose, play a Goyf. Crusher? Ok, it resolves, play a Tombstalker, pass... OH SHIT IS THAT A 14/14 WTF??
Peter_Rotten
01-13-2008, 07:19 PM
... a 3-mana 20/20 sounds like 'Tog, except 5 turns faster...

Hmmm... wait a minute. Burning Tog plays red. Tog can discard lands... Crusher in Burning Tog??? :eek: LOL!
Finn
01-14-2008, 01:42 PM
I was thinking of that bauble-type artifact from Alliances that puts up to 4 lands from GY to top of library. Too provincial?

Anyway, I think Nihil has the deck type pegged pretty well in his example anyway. Very cool card. I can't believe they made it a 3/3 for 3 in red. Is the solution for broken green Tarmo going to be to break the other colors as well?
TheAardvark
01-14-2008, 01:52 PM
Needs 100% more Crop Rotation, that's for sure.

I think the card is very good (obv), but it + 'Goyf will simply allow Smother to be played more. Smother is so saucy.
xsockmonkeyx
01-14-2008, 01:52 PM
I was thinking of that bauble-type artifact from Alliances that puts up to 4 lands from GY to top of library. Too provincial?

Lodestone Bauble only grabs basic lands. Ergo it sucks.
Eldariel
01-14-2008, 02:12 PM
Needs 100% more Crop Rotation, that's for sure.

I think the card is very good (obv), but it + 'Goyf will simply allow Smother to be played more. Smother is so saucy.

Yea, but between 'Goyf, 'Vore and 'Crusher, you have 12 beaters to their 4 Smothers or 4 StPs. That's definitely in your advantage.
Hightower
01-14-2008, 02:56 PM
I was wondering, what exactly happens if you control more then one Countryside Crusher? Let's say two - do each of them trigger after each other? so you first mill down to 1st nonland card -> then repeat the process for the second Crusher, or??

Sorry if this has been brought up before
zulander
01-14-2008, 03:00 PM
I was wondering, what exactly happens if you control more then one Countryside Crusher? Let's say two - do each of them trigger after each other? so you first mill down to 1st nonland card -> then repeat the process for the second Crusher, or??

Sorry if this has been brought up before
I had the same question earlier because I was overthinking the process.

More than 1 Crusher in play:
Okay, so crusher 1 and 2 trigger, you put them on the stack and resolve the last one put on the stack. You put reveal the top card, if it's a land put it into the graveyard and repeat this process until you hit a non-land. The second crusher then resolves, and unless you have a shuffle effect it will reveal the same card that crusher 1 did. You then draw your card for the turn (most likely the revealed card) and then enter your main phase.
rufus
01-14-2008, 04:19 PM
I had the same question earlier because I was overthinking the process.

More than 1 Crusher in play:
Okay, so crusher 1 and 2 trigger, you put them on the stack and resolve the last one put on the stack. You put reveal the top card, if it's a land put it into the graveyard and repeat this process until you hit a non-land. The second crusher then resolves, and unless you have a shuffle effect it will reveal the same card that crusher 1 did. You then draw your card for the turn (most likely the revealed card) and then enter your main phase.

There're also cycling effects, clash effects, and cantrips...
zulander
01-14-2008, 04:30 PM
Hence the whole "(most likely the revealed card)" part. Maybe I should have added the whole "redo this process for c2".
Tacosnape
01-14-2008, 05:06 PM
It's also worth noting that Loam's biggest drawback has been its vulnerability to graveyard hate eating Loam, Terravore, and Tarmogoyf. Excluding Leyline of the Void, Countryside Crusher's going to circumvent all of this.

I seriously think I might be building some form of Aggro Loam.


Hmmm... wait a minute. Burning Tog plays red. Tog can discard lands... Crusher in Burning Tog??? :eek: LOL!

That was a ^_^ away from channeling the spirit of Radley.
Pinder
01-14-2008, 05:12 PM
That was a ^_^ away from channeling the spirit of Radley.

True. I was wondering if his masquerade as a certain premium geriatric had finally gotten to him.
dahcmai
01-16-2008, 07:58 PM
That new card Scapeshift makes him interesting. Sac all your lands for the heck of it and go get fetches/Wastes/etc. Sac all the fetcheswastes,etc, swing for a bunch. Seems decent for a 4th turn.
zulander
01-16-2008, 08:22 PM
That new card Scapeshift makes him interesting. Sac all your lands for the heck of it and go get fetches/Wastes/etc. Sac all the fetcheswastes,etc, swing for a bunch. Seems decent for a 4th turn.
The lands come into play tapped.
Pinder
01-17-2008, 01:57 AM
So this card is great and all, but the art is really gay:

http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/fcpics/swimming/mf181_tvu7h80e.jpg

I mean really.
Volt
01-17-2008, 02:07 AM
You're right. That art totally prefers to have sex with art of the same gender.
raharu
01-17-2008, 03:06 AM
I think Wizards is trying to make cards less broken by implementing gay art (case in point- Tarmogoyf, this thingy, Terravore, Thoughtseize).
Nihil Credo
01-17-2008, 03:08 AM
An old pasty out of shape shirtless drunkard flinging what looks like a ball of vomit and goat droppings. Thanks, Jeremy Jarvis.

To partially compensate for this, it looks particularly fit for some awesome alterations. Cheesy superhero art would probably work very well.
Meekrab
01-17-2008, 04:08 AM
An old pasty out of shape shirtless drunkard flinging what looks like a ball of vomit and goat droppings. Thanks, Jeremy Jarvis.

To partially compensate for this, it looks particularly fit for some awesome alterations. Cheesy superhero art would probably work very well.
Dude it already looks like rush limbaugh, just turn the fireball/dirt thing into some prescription painkillers and you're golden...
Barook
01-17-2008, 04:47 AM
So Wizards continues the old trend of giving good cards fugly art while the crap cards get the good art? Great! :rolleyes:
zeus-online
01-17-2008, 05:54 AM
Well what did you expect? It's a lorwyn card! lorwyn has the worst art since...forever ;)

/Zeus
Illissius
01-17-2008, 06:29 AM
Looks like the demented lovechild of Fred Thompson and Kai Budde (as seen on Voidmage Prodigy).
Barook
01-17-2008, 09:13 AM
Speaking of which, this card definitely needs an alternative art promo.
Cavius The Great
01-17-2008, 09:30 AM
So what do you guys think, would it be wise to get a foil playset of these dudes before they shoot up in price? Dare I say "new Tarmogoyf"?
xsockmonkeyx
01-17-2008, 09:37 AM
Dare I say "new Tarmogoyf"?

No. Not even close.
Cavius The Great
01-17-2008, 10:33 AM
No. Not even close.

I meant money-wise.

P.S. - I love the illustration. It reminds me of Norman Rockwell paintings.
zulander
01-17-2008, 10:44 AM
I meant money-wise.



No. Not even close.
Pinder
01-17-2008, 10:57 AM
It reminds me of Norman Rockwell paintings.



No. Not even close.
Barook
01-17-2008, 11:02 AM
P.S. - I love the illustration. It reminds me of Norman Rockwell paintings.

The picture reminds me about something else:

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_daily_mf181_pic3_en.jpg http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/authorpics/authorpic_MarkRosewater.jpg

Coincidence?
zulander
01-17-2008, 11:05 AM
Looks like the old dude in Princess Bride.
Ewokslayer
01-17-2008, 11:06 AM
The picture reminds me about something else:

http://www.wizards.com/global/images/mtgcom_daily_mf181_pic3_en.jpg http://www.wizards.com/magic/images/mtgcom/authorpics/authorpic_MarkRosewater.jpg

Coincidence?

So your conjecture is that Countryside Crusher is an older, more constipated, homeless picture of Mark Rosewater?
Interesting.


Looks like the old dude in Princess Bride.
Miracle Max?
http://i175.photobucket.com/albums/w154/ewokslayer101/th-OldCouple.jpg
Nightmare
01-17-2008, 11:10 AM
Have fun storming the castle!
zulander
01-17-2008, 12:11 PM
Do they not resemble each other?!!?
nitewolf9
01-17-2008, 12:27 PM
Have fun storming the castle!

I think Allen just pee'd his pants laughing. He is so gay for that movie.
Nightmare
01-17-2008, 12:50 PM
I think Allen just pee'd his pants laughing. He is so gay for that movie.As he should be.
Peter_Rotten
01-17-2008, 01:01 PM
LOL - is this thread even needed any more? Not likely.