[Tournament] 4/12, Wareham, MA

[J.V.]

-Date: Saturday, April 12th 2008
-Start Time: 12:00PM, 11:00 AM Registration
-Type: Legacy (1.5) (This event will be DCI sanctioned.)
-Cost: $15.00
-Where: Gateway Comics Etc
3103 Cranberry Highway
E.Wareham MA 02538

The event will be Swiss with cut to top 8 (number of rounds depending on turnout)
Prizes:
1st Place: 4 Volcanic Island (or $110 store credit)
2nd Place: 4 Force of Will (or $80 store credit)
3rd Place: 4 Polluted Delta (or $60 store credit)
4th Place: 4 Flooded Strand (or $45 store credit)
5th-8th Place: Store Credit based on turnout.

1st place prize guaranteed with at least 10 players
Top 4 prizes guaranteed with 20 players minimum

Preregistration is allowed.
For Preregistration and/or additional information Contact Gateway Comics at:
gwcetc@hotmail.com
or
Gateway Comics Website
or
1-774-269-3727

Pizza, snacks and drinks will be available. Also please remember to park in the back for space purposes. Hopefully this tournament will be as fun as the last! I Hope to see you there!

[insertnamehere]

I will do my best to be there. Gas is through the roof so I will need to fill my car in order to go. Who from W.MA needs a ride?

[KillemallCFH]

I don't have to tell you that without a doubt, my brother and I will be there.

[J.V.]

Sounds great see you then Jeremy.

[HammafistRoob]

I will be playing amazingD0Tdec.

[FoolofaTook]

I'll probably be at this one, although it's a month out so you never know what life might dredge up in the meantime.

I had a lot of fun at the last one and it's definitely worth the trip. Let's get 33+ people there and add another solid Legacy tourney to the meta.

[Dilettante]

I'll probably be at this one, although it's a month out so you never know what life might dredge up in the meantime.

I had a lot of fun at the last one and it's definitely worth the trip. Let's get 33+ people there and add another solid Legacy tourney to the meta.

I'm a 50/50 to attend. Have to see if the Lady is free. If not, I'll show up with my 'gauntlet'.

[Maagler]

My groundation will be up by then.

[J.V.]

Nice and I'll have new sleeves for you.:wink:

[HammafistRoob]

I have a savage idea for a new deck to play at this. But should I play it, Dreadstill, or Black???

[J.V.]

I added the rest of the prizes.

[scrumdogg]

Work 0800-1600 & a Steven Lynch concert that night > the tournament. Have fun, good luck, and remember that the PM function exists....(see above several PMs...I mean posts....) as most of the rest of us have no desire to wade through PMs in threads.

[technogeek5000]

Im pretty sure this event is going to be hurting from the one in hadley the same day. Better prize support, and cheaper entry fee, and for me about a hour closer. One of the dates will have to be moved if you want a good turnout for this thing.

Edit: Ignore me, im stupid

[Jaynel]

Im pretty sure this event is going to be hurting from the one in hadley the same day. Better prize support, and cheaper entry fee, and for me about a hour closer. One of the dates will have to be moved if you want a good turnout for this thing.

I'm pretty sure the events are a week apart, and won't really affect each other.

[J.V.]

I'm pretty sure the events are a week apart, and won't really affect each other.

I'm also pretty sure that Kevin and I made sure they were a week apart so that potentially we could go to each other tournaments.

[OffTheWall]

The Hadley one is on the 19th. I will be at this event. Itll be so nice to actually play in a tournament.

[insertnamehere]

The Hadley one is on the 19th. I will be at this event. Itll be so nice to actually play in a tournament.

shotgun

[insertnamehere]

This is the next tourney in the area. Who plans on going? I am predicting a top 4 finish for me at this tourney after my last top 8 finish.:cool:

[Maagler]

Im definatly going to this.

[J.V.]

Cool, who else plans on attending?

[Maagler]

wow, 2 minutes after i posted i found out I can not go. :frown: DAMN YOU REAL LIFE FROM GETTING IN THE WAY OF MY CARD BOARD CRACK!

[Jaynel]

I bet Roob's down for another brutal spanking, courtesy of me.

[socialite]

Pretty sure I need a ride to this from Boston. :(

[Rood]

I'm down count Hammafist being repped for this!

[HammafistRoob]

I bet Roob's down for another brutal spanking, courtesy of me.

I bet we will get matched up again, but this time I will have JeLLo pwnage on my side.:eek:

[J.V.]

I bet we will get matched up again, but this time I will have JeLLo pwnage on my side.:eek:

It's true, I owe him Jello that I promised him in Hadley.

[Lego]

I bet Roob's down for another brutal spanking, courtesy of me.

I've changed my mind. I'm no longer coming to this event. Inter-nerd spanking is not my idea of a good time.

[J.V.]

I've changed my mind. I'm no longer coming to this event. Inter-nerd spanking is not my idea of a good time.

Don't lie to yourself Evn, you wouldn't miss this. :wink:

[insertnamehere]

I've changed my mind. I'm no longer coming to this event. Inter-nerd spanking is not my idea of a good time.

Give it up, Evn. You know you will be dancing with some 3 legged. 1 armed lady, I will probably not be able to make this either. I will be making $300 for 6hours at a Party.

[J.V.]

thats a shame, you should go.

[OffTheWall]

Does the shop or anyone going to this have any foil dark confidants for sale/trade?

[J.V.]

Does the shop or anyone going to this have any foil dark confidants for sale/trade?

We have 3 but are actually looking (and have been for a while) for a fourth.

[Ebinsugewa]

Give it up, Evn. You know you will be dancing with some 3 legged. 1 armed lady, I will probably not be able to make this either. I will be making $300 for 6hours at a Party.

Subtle, yet effective. I will be there.

[insertnamehere]

Don't lie to yourself Evn, you wouldn't miss this. :wink:

If there money doesn't talk to me than I will be there to beat on Team Plastic Hammafist

[HammafistRoob]

If there money doesn't talk to me than I will be there to beat on Team Plastic Hammafist

You can try Rabbit.

[J.V.]

Just figured I'd bump this since the tournament is this coming Saturday, Who's coming? Hopefully there will be a good showing. 30 is the goal.:wink:

Edit:
Dave Feinstein is like probably going.

[Rood]

I hope we do get a nice turnout for this thing. I know some of the guys down from Hadley will be making it. But the store itself is very friendly and run well. I encourage everyone who is able to go to try to attend this.

[Stooghenstein]

Edit:Dave Feinstein is like probably going.

Way to use proper english. :mad:

[OffTheWall]

Car is just about full. Next place is the trunk, but it is a SUV so the trunk realy isn't terrible, or we'll do a second car.

[Michael Keller]

Wareham might get a surprise this weekend.

[J.V.]

Wareham might get a surprise this weekend.

Are you guys really coming down from NY :eek:

[Michael Keller]

I might make an individual trip. I like road trips. That is, of course, if anyone wants to tag.

[J.V.]

awesome, hopefully we'll see you and Belcher there :laugh:

[KillemallCFH]

Alright, looks like I'm going to this. Unfortunately, Scott's not coming, but I'll be sure to represent Stoughton in the Top 8.

[J.V.]

Cool Beans Jeremy, so that makes the top 8:
2 Dreadstill
1 UGw Threshold
1 My Amazing.dec
1 Belcher (assuming A_Legend does show)
1 Steve's Amazing.dec
1 RGB Survival Advantage
1 Kevin's surprise.dec

Edit: 2 more slots filled.
Edit 2: Looks like the Top 8 is decided lol

[Jaynel]

We're bringing 5(!), so I think we can take those last remaining slots.

[J.V.]

I'll give you one... :wink:

[OffTheWall]

I am claiming a slot in top 8 because my deck is unexpected.

[J.V.]

I am claiming a slot in top 8 because my deck is unexpected.

Your very pimped out deck wont surprise me :tongue: but you claimed it lol so editted ^

[OffTheWall]

The deck its self isn't a surprise. The fact that it always seems to draw answers is why it is a surprise.

[Stooghenstein]

Cool Beans Jeremy, so that makes the top 8:
4 Hamma Fist
1 Jared's Survival
3 Other

Top 4
4x Hamma Fist


Get that shit right

[Jaynel]

Come on. You all know how Hammafist vs. S&L top 4s play out: We take home your Tarmogoyfs and Force of Wills and then ravage the "tanning salon" (read: strip club) in front of the store.

[J.V.]

Cool Beans Jeremy, so that makes the top 8:
2 Dreadstill
1 UGw Threshold
1 My Amazing.dec
1 Belcher (assuming A_Legend does show)
1 Steve's Amazing.dec
1 RGB Survival Advantage
1 Kevin's surprise.dec

Edit: 2 more slots filled.
Edit 2: Looks like the Top 8 is decided lol
looks like I covered it Steve.

Come on. You all know how Hammafist vs. S&L top 4s play out: We take home your Tarmogoyfs and Force of Wills and then ravage the "tanning salon" (read: strip club) in front of the store.
Well you'll probably top 2 the rest of your team never seems to do so great though. (except Ben)

[Rood]

Cool Beans Jeremy, so that makes the top 8:
2 Dreadstill
1 UGw Threshold
1 My Amazing.dec
1 Belcher (assuming A_Legend does show)
1 Steve's Amazing.dec
1 RGB Survival Advantage
1 Kevin's surprise.dec

Edit: 2 more slots filled.
Edit 2: Looks like the Top 8 is decided lol

What a crappy deck nobody will play this. ;)

[J.V.]

So who else is planning on coming down? I'm trying to get a rough headcount.

[FoolofaTook]

I'm probably 60/40 to make it at this point. It's supposed to be raining on Saturday with a few thunderstorms. I'll drive through that. If it's pouring heavily and the forecast is thunderstorms all day then I'll give it a pass. Four hours of driving in the slop is just not fun regardless of what you get to do in the middle.

[Dilettante]

I'm a 75% to come.

[BKclassic]

Myself and one accomplice are going to be coming down from Bangor, Maine bringing super secret northern(ish) Maine tech.

[B.C.]

I'm going. I'm trying to get another 1 or 2 Vintage guys to go with me, but it might be just me. I'm 100%, though.

[HammafistRoob]

And then ravage the "tanning salon" (read: strip club) in front of the store.

Thats MY STRIP CLUB!!!

[J.V.]

Thats MY STRIP CLUB!!!

Yeah I wouldn't mess with Rob, he is black you know. :wink: Anyways, Awesome that people are coming from so far away sounds like were gonna have a great turnout.:laugh:

[insertnamehere]

F*** my other plans, I am playing Magic. I would like to make a reservation for top 8 please.

[KillemallCFH]

Extirpates. Engineered Plagues. Who wants to be the lucky person to let me borrow these?

[Rood]

Extirpates. Engineered Plagues. Who wants to be the lucky person to let me borrow these?

Oh man, someone's playing a totally unexpected deck. XP

[J.V.]

Extirpates. Engineered Plagues. Who wants to be the lucky person to let me borrow these?

You clown, your Top 8 reservation only applies to UGw Threshold... don't play survival junk...:wink:

[from Cairo]

Extirpates. Engineered Plagues. Who wants to be the lucky person to let me borrow these?

UGw ORing Thresh or no Top 8s for you!

Black?! Who plays Black...

[HammafistRoob]

UGw ORing Thresh or no Top 8s for you!

Black?! Who plays Black...

:laugh:

[Cavius The Great]

:laugh:

Yo, Roob. I don't think I'll ever trade with you. I'm afraid your cards might have boogers on them. And I'm dead serious...

[HammafistRoob]

Yo, Roob. I don't think I'll ever trade with you. I'm afraid your cards might have boogers on them. And I'm dead serious...

Cavius, I always thought of you as a person who would like my boogas. I guess I was wrong, you LOVE my boogas.

[insertnamehere]

Western MA is coming with 2, count 'em, 2 car loads

[RoddyVR]

If someone has extra survivals for trade, please bring them with you, cause i'd realy like to trade for them. Its too late to put them in my deck for this tourny, but if i can get em this weekend i could have em in for next week's hadly tourny.

Does the store have any survivals or arcbound ravagers? Cause if it does i might just have to make a deal with the devil to give me some unhealthy amounts of luck so i can get into the prizemoney on this tourny.

PS, i always post this way too close to the tourny dates, but if anyone needs a ride from Worcester to this, send me a PM, as i'm driving solo to this.

[kabal]

Results?

[Jaynel]

Top 8:
2 Grb Survival
1 UWb Landstill
1 Mono Blue Aggro (EXTFaeries.dec)
2 Dreadstill
1 UGrb Thresh
1 Rgb Goblins

[kabal]

Top 8:
2 Grb Survival
1 UWb Landstill
1 Mono Blue Aggro (EXTFaeries.dec)
2 Dreadstill
1 UGrb Thresh
1 Rgb Goblins

How many people showed? Do you have decklists?

[Rood]

Top 8:
2 Grb Survival
1 UWb Landstill
1 Mono Blue Aggro (EXTFaeries.dec)
2 Dreadstill
1 UGrb Thresh
1 Rgb Goblins

T8:
Grb Survival defeats Grb Survival
UGrb Thresh defeats Dreadstill
Dreadstill defeats Rgb Goblins
15.deck(Mono blue) beats UWb Landstill

T4:(split cash)
UGrb defeats 15.deck
Dreadstill defeats Grb Survival

T2: (ranking purposes)
Dreadstill defeats UGrb Thresh

[vanele]

Top 8:
2 Grb Survival
1 UWb Landstill
1 15.dec
2 Dreadstill
1 UGrb Thresh
1 Rgb Goblins

was the real top 8

T4 split prize but was
1 15.dec (Me)
1 Dreadstill (Rood)
1 Thresh (The Rich man Shay)
1 Survival/ BIG GAME HUNTER.DEC (Jaynel/jeremy)

T2 was Dreadstill Vs Thresh with Dstill taking 1st

Edit- Sarnethed

[insertnamehere]

There were 27 people at the tournament. The tournament ran very well. I only had a few problems with the tournament:
My deck tanking
Gas prices
Mapquest giving me wrong information(directions and mileage)

The tournament went well though. Don't know if I can keep affording the drive to these tournaments though.

Good going guys

[revenge_inc]

1 Mono Blue Aggro (EXTFaeries.dec)

I am most interested in seeing this decklist.

[J.V.]

There were 27 people at the tournament.

Actually there were 31 people I'll have the deck archetype breakdown and top 8 deck lists in by tomorrow.

[RoddyVR]

wierd, i thought it was 32 with one person droping before round 4 (which is why we started having a bye mid tourny)

[J.V.]

wierd, i thought it was 32 with one person droping before round 4 (which is why we started having a bye mid tourny)

Ah yes, Roddy is right, I was actually just missing a deck list. Apparently whoever it was Dropped and took their deck list right after round 4 began.
Anyways, here is the Meta game Breakdown:
32 Players:
-4 Dreadstill
2 Ug
1 Ur
1 Uw
-3 Rbg Vial Goblins
-2 RGBSA
-2 Dragon Stompy
-3 Storm Based Combo
1 SI
1 Fetchland Tendrils
1 Solidarity
-3 Threshold
1 UGRb Counter-Top
1 UGR Canadian Thresh
1 UGw Counter-Top
-2 Landstill
1 Ugb Counter-Top
1 UWb Cunning
-13 Other decks
1 Faerie Stompy
1 Goyf Sligh
1 Domain Sligh
1 UGb Intuition Control
1 UGB Counter-Top Fish
2 UB Fish
1 15.dec ["Extended" Faeries]
1 Fires Aggro
1 GBr Burning Rock
1 5c Slivers
1 Unknown Deck

And as Stated above the top 8 was:
UGrb Threshold (theAtoglord) defeats Uw Dreadstill (Hammafistroob)
RGBSA (Jaynel) defeats RGBSA (Stooghenstein)
Ur Dreadstill (Roodmistah) defeats Rgb Vial Goblins, Brian Knopp (unreg?)
15.dec ["Extended" Faeries] defeats UWb Cunning Landstill (From_Cairo)
Top 4:
Ur Dreadstill defeats RGBSA
UGRb Thresh defeats 15.dec
Finals:
Ur Dreadstill defeats UGRb Thresh
and the top 4 did split the prizes, they just played it out for the DCI ranking.

[revenge_inc]

I think he meant Faerie stompy
You modified his quote from this:

1 Mono Blue Aggro (EXTFaeries.dec)
to this:

1 15.dec

So what does 15.dec mean? Is it just another name for Faerie Stompy?

[J.V.]

You modified his quote from this:

to this:


So what does 15.dec mean? Is it just another name for Faerie Stompy?

No, it was a completely different deck than Faerie Stompy. 15.dec was just the name that Garrett (Vanele) gave the deck and being his deck, I went with it.

[revenge_inc]

No, it was a completely different deck than Faerie Stompy. 15.dec was just the name that Garrett (Vanele) gave the deck and being his deck, I went with it.
Could you post this decklist?

EDIT: LOL at the confusion and what looks like vanele giving his deck 3 different names. :wink:




Top 4:
Ur Dreadstill defeats RGBSA
UGRb Thresh defeats 15.dec

Interesting, slightly different Top-4 then previously stated. :wink:

[Rood]

Goes to show you, in an unprepared meta, anything is possible.

[BKclassic]

I'll share, I was the gRb Goblins in the top 8.

3 Taiga
3 Badlands
2 Mountain
4 Wooded Foothills
4 Bloodstained Mire
4 Wasteland
2 Rishadan Port

4 Goblin Lackey
4 Mogg Fanatic
4 Tin Street Hooligan
4 Goblin Piledriver
3 Gempalm Incinerater
4 Goblin Matron
4 Goblin Warchief
4 Goblin Ringleader
2 Siege-Gang Commander

4 Aether Vial
1 Warren Weirding

SB:
3 Cabal Therapy
3 Krosan Grip
3 Tormod's Crypt
3 Pyrokinesis
3 Warren Weirding

Brief tourney report (sorry, threw out my score sheet with names):
Round 1: Dragon Stompy
Game 1- He plays a Raider and a Magus pretty quick, I manage to kill Magus with Mogg Fanatic and Weirding the Raider (I think). From there, he is in top deck mode and I don't have too many problems from there. Board in Pyrokinesis and Weirdings.
Game 2- He plays some Pyroclasms and a Rakdos Pit Dragon rocks my world.
Game 3- I play some goblins, he plays a Raider and a Pit Dragon. He sacrifices his Raider to a Weirding, I Pyrokinesify the Dragon and swing for the win.
(2-1, 1-0)

Round 2: Justin, Solidarity
The dude I drove down with, so this kinda sucks. We decide to play it out.
Game 1: I am about to swing for the win, but he goes off. Board in some Cabal Therapies.
Game 2: I am about to swing for the win, he tries to go off but has to Brain Freeze himself and puts all of his Cunning Wish and Brain Freeze in the graveyard, so I luck sack a win.
Game 3: He mulls to 4. I luck sack another win.
(4-2, 2-0)

Round 3: Uw Stiflenaught
Game 1: He pretty much controls the game and wins with a Dreadnought (I think).
Games 2 + 3: I can't really differentiate these games in my head, but Wastelands and Ports go along way, as well as Krosan Grips and Weirdings. I think I do a lot of damage with Tin Streets.
(6-3, 3-0)

I've always wanted to ID into a T8.

Top 8: Ur Stiflenaught
Game 1: Many Wastelands and much Gobo beatdown. He concedes at lowlife when he can't get a 3rd mana source. Board Weirdings, Therapies and Grips.
Game 2: I pretty much just get owned.
Game 3: I keep a hand with Cabal Therapy, Tin Street, Krosan Grip and lands. I only draw like 2 more Goblins, and a ton of land. He plays a chill and eventually get owned by a dreadnought.

There may be some mistakes in there, if so, feel free to correct them. So that was all right for my first legit Legacy tournament and probably worth coming down from UMaine. If I could do it again, I would just play Tacosnapes most recent list.




Edit:


Ur Dreadstill (Roodmistah) defeats Rgb Vial Goblins, Brian Knoop (unreg?)


Not to be annoying, thats Brian Knopp.

[J.V.]

Could you post this decklist?
Unfortunately I've been asked not to post the decklist until after next weeks Hadley tournaments so for now 15.dec will remain a secret of Team Hammafist.


Not to be annoying, thats Brian Knopp.
Sorry about that, fixed. Also I'm glad you had fun and did well and congrats on the finish.

[Jaynel]

I conceded in the top 4, because Friendly's was calling. Steak Fajitas for the fucking win!

I think the missing deck was that weird Tomb/Thorn/Glowrider/Welder deck. R/W Legacy Workshop Aggro.

@ vanele: My name is Jared, not Jeremy.

[vanele]

@ vanele: My name is Jared, not Jeremy.

I try Jared it, it was a 50/50 shot,.

Also looks like its going to be hard to figure out what I'm playing at Hadley. :wink:

[Stooghenstein]

I try Jared it, it was a 50/50 shot,.

Also looks like its going to be hard to figure out what I'm playing at Hadley. :wink:

since ur not on the team i could post ur list =P

[J.V.]

Top 8 decklists have been posted here (http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/showthread.php?p=223859#post223859).

[Jaynel]

My sideboard is missing from the list. Here it is if someone could edit it in:

3 Engineered Plague
3 Extirpate
2 Krosan Grip
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Primal Command
1 Tsunami
1 Regrowth
1 Rough/Tumble
1 Hull Breach
1 Chainer's Edict

[KillemallCFH]

Something seems to be awry with Ben's list:

Lands:25
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Flooded Strand
4 Tundra
3 Island
3 Plains
2 Polluted Delta
2 Underground Sea
2 Wasteland
1 Academy Ruins

Creatures:0

Noncreature Spells:35
4 Brainstorm
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Counterspell
4 Standstill
4 Force of Will
3 Engineered Explosives
3 Standstill
2 Cunning Wish
2 Wrath of God
2 Humility
2 Decree of Justice
1 Crucible of Worlds

Sideboard:15
4 Engineered Plague
4 Meddling Mage
3 Extirpate
1 Pulse of the Fields
1 Dismantling Blow
1 Enlightened Tutor
1 Slaughter Pact

[Stooghenstein]

since ur not on the team i could post ur list =P

Actually I will =)

[vanele]

Something seems to be awry with Ben's list:

The Three Standstills are enlightened tutors i think, but don't quote me on this.

[Maagler]

I am not going to spoil the deck for hadley, but 15.dec makes me cry a little on the inside.

[Jaynel]

The Three Standstills are enlightened tutors i think, but don't quote me on this.

They're not. The 3 Standstill should be 3 Stifle.

[revenge_inc]

I am not going to spoil the deck for hadley, but 15.dec makes me cry a little on the inside.

LOL. I was just interested in seeing what would appear to be a competitive blue-aggro deck other than Faerie Stompy. Looks like I may have over-hyped the deck in the process. :wink:

[Stooghenstein]

LOL. I was just interested in seeing what would appear to be a competitive blue-aggro deck other than Faerie Stompy. Looks like I may have over-hyped the deck in the process. :wink:

Its extended U/B Faeries with force of wills pft can't believe it did as good as it did it was rogue thats why

[Maagler]

I am sad i could not attend this. I would have wrecked house with ichorid.

[Rood]

I am sad i could not attend this. I would have wrecked house with ichorid.

Don't you always?

[Cavius The Great]

Its extended U/B Faeries with force of wills pft can't believe it did as good as it did it was rogue thats why

We had someone Top4 in Somerville with a Type 2 U/B Faeries deck. Can someone please explain to me why this archetype seems to win games?

Hell, next tournament I go to, I'm going to try my luck with Thallids... :wink:

[RoddyVR]

Since no one else brings this up, I think i will. When in round 1 i think (maybe it was 2), the question about "factory animated under a humility = 2/2 or 1/1" came up, the organizer and (what i think was) one of the players who's a judge looked it up on Starcity games, and got the answer that its a 1/1.
After basicaly mass riots by everyone within earshot, it was (i believe) treated as a 2/2.
Ofcourse a bunch of people shouted "just look it up on the source, there's a whole thread there." But the person against who it was played and who didnt know the interaction (think he said he was more a vintage then a legacy player) brought up what i thought was a realy good point... "if you dont believe Magiccity, why believe the Source" for a person who isnt active on either site why would one be assumed more right then the other.

The only posible solutions ofcourse are:
1. get judges to stop looking things up on Starcity. Unlikely.
2. Fix the Factory/Humility ruling on Starcity. Oddly enough a newer ruling (about Genju of the Fields) actualy gives an answer that could be interpreted correctly if applied to factory.

So who knows someone around here that has the power at Starcity to change/remove that incorrect rulling?

[from Cairo]

Since no one else brings this up, I think i will. When in round 1 i think (maybe it was 2), the question about "factory animated under a humility = 2/2 or 1/1" came up, the organizer and (what i think was) one of the players who's a judge looked it up on Starcity games, and got the answer that its a 1/1.
After basicaly mass riots by everyone within earshot, it was (i believe) treated as a 2/2.
Ofcourse a bunch of people shouted "just look it up on the source, there's a whole thread there." But the person against who it was played and who didnt know the interaction (think he said he was more a vintage then a legacy player) brought up what i thought was a realy good point... "if you dont believe Magiccity, why believe the Source" for a person who isnt active on either site why would one be assumed more right then the other.

The only posible solutions ofcourse are:
1. get judges to stop looking things up on Starcity. Unlikely.
2. Fix the Factory/Humility ruling on Starcity. Oddly enough a newer ruling (about Genju of the Fields) actualy gives an answer that could be interpreted correctly if applied to factory.

So who knows someone around here that has the power at Starcity to change/remove that incorrect rulling?

The Oracle ruling is pretty explicit right on Wizard's Gatherer Lookup Window. I had no idea why anyone would go to an unofficial website, the Source or Starcity, when Wizards gives the information.


11/1/2005 You apply power/toughness changing effects in a series of sublayers in the following order: (a) effects from characteristic-setting abilities; (b) all other effects not specifically applied in c, d, or e; (c) changes from counters; (d) effects from static abilities that modify power and/or toughness but don't set power and/or toughness to a specific number or value; and (e) effects that switch a creature's power and toughness, so you'll always apply this card at b.

Given you are activating the Mishra's Factory after the Humility is in play you look to timestamps and given Humility is in play and the activation is happening after, it overwrites the Humility's all creatures are 1/1s clause.

And yes. After first ruling it a 1/1 the TO retracted the ruling when a couple other players who are also judges confirmed it was in fact a 2/2.

[Stooghenstein]

We had someone Top4 in Somerville with a Type 2 U/B Faeries deck. Can someone please explain to me why this archetype seems to win games?

Hell, next tournament I go to, I'm going to try my luck with Thallids... :wink:

Unlike most agro decks this deck gets around counterbalance with odd mana costing creatures and unlike goblins it gets around pyroclasm due to the ability to counter with some hand control like thoughsieze idk really though thats what im guessing if you look up any type 2 u/b faeries or extended u/b faeries add force of wills and that is the list for the "unrevealed deck" vanele played, yeah i went there b/c ur not on the team gl in hadley =P

[J.V.]

Jared I added your sideboard and Ben, I fixed the double standstill... sorry I was in a rush and needed to go to work...

[Peter_Rotten]

Did this tournie seriously have 32 players? One away from inclusion in the historical T8 thread? :frown:

[Ebinsugewa]

Did this tournie seriously have 32 players? One away from inclusion in the historical T8 thread? :frown:

You mean one round closer to going to Friendly's and getting the fuck home?

[J.V.]

Did this tournie seriously have 32 players? One away from inclusion in the historical T8 thread? :frown:

Yes I think you should include it anyways... :wink: