Why do you play Legacy?

[KingAlanI]

So, why do y'all play Legacy?

Myself, I see it as a balance between constantly-rotating formats (Standard and to some degree Extended) and the insane powerlevel/game speed, not to mention cost, of Vintage. (And that's Vintage with proxies)
The effects of DCI sanctioning can be fun at times.)

I was drawn into the format:
by a possibility of decent budget decks (My first cracks at the format were Burn and RAffinity, although I'm working on more-expensive MUC at the moment.)
My FLGS seems to support Legacy most, so that's where I find the most good opponents.

Also, along with what attracts me to casual games, you have most any card available, with the exception of a relative handful of br0kenness.

As I've never got into Standard/Extended heavily, I'm not sure about this, but maybe rotation, and thus constantly having to change your deck, might not sit well with me.

[Tacosnape]

'Cause it's fun.

[Pinder]

'Cause it's fun.

[Cabal-kun]

'Cause it's fun.

Indeed. It's a very open, reasonably balanced format that still has much fertile ground for new decks.

[KillemallCFH]

Because every other format sucks.

[calosso]

When there isn't a PTQ or GP I play legacy.

[raharu]

Because Vintage is OP and rotating formats are retarded. That, and the decks in extended and standard aren't as interesting to play. Legacy is the format where you can play ANYTHING, so long as it's well developed. Not true of Vintage (because of the insane powerlevel). That, and it's the format that hates the least on the poor (I'll gladly save up for fetches, Duals, and Playsets of staples, so long as they don't rotate out).

[KingAlanI]

Indeed. It's a very open, reasonably balanced format that still has much fertile ground for new decks.

That.

[Shtriga]

I got tired of having to build a new deck after every hiatus.

also, the power level feels just right, and some old cards are fun to play with

but mostly the first

[KingAlanI]

Because Vintage is OP and rotating formats are retarded. That, and the decks in extended and standard aren't as interesting to play. Legacy is the format where you can play ANYTHING, so long as it's well developed. Not true of Vintage (because of the insane powerlevel). That, and it's the format that hates the least on the poor (I'll gladly save up for fetches, Duals, and Playsets of staples, so long as they don't rotate out).

What do you mean by 'OP'?
Also, I second the latter part of your comment, atleast. :)

[J.V.]

You can play any deck you can think of relatively competitively with legacy's huge card pool. Also I can't really afford T1. The other thing is that Legacy has the best community of players. :cool:

Because every other format sucks.

And that. :wink:

[Ch@os]

It doesnt rotate, has a stable metagame but is also effected by new cards/sets.

[MasterBlaster]

I play Legacy for all of the above stated reasons.

[Bardo]

It doesnt rotate, has a stable metagame but is also effected by new cards/sets.

That, the fun, the community and I have the duals and staples to make (or get 80-90% there) most of the deck I'm interested in playing.

The idea of continually chasing hot rares from the most recent 1 - ~6 sets is not at all appealing when those cards will lose play value in a short amount of time.

[raharu]

What do you mean by 'OP'?
Also, I second the latter part of your comment, atleast. :)
Because if you aren't playing with some P9 uber-resilient combo or some P9 broken-ass combo-control that format goes OM NOM NOM you.

There's a reason that Flash isn't banned there.

[caiomarcos]

The idea of continually chasing hot rares from the most recent 1 - ~6 sets is not at all appealing when those cards will lose play value in a short amount of time.

I agree, and more than that: the ideia of continually chasing hot rares from every set (from Alpha duals to 'Goyf) is way more appealing when those cards will gain value in any amount of time.

I gladly bought Moat, Sinkholes, FoW etc knowing that I'll be able to play with them forever!

[FoolofaTook]

It allows me to play with the majority of the cards I have collected over the years and of the existing formats it most closely mirrors the old single meta that I loved in terms of speed, tempo and variety of decks.

I wouldn't play Magic with a significantly circumscribed list of cards. Those lists are in violation of the original spirit of organized Magic competition, which was to build your best deck and compete. Once you start limiting people's options to dramatically inferior cards that competition is valueless in my opinion.

[Jak]

I guess the first thing that got me into the format was when I posted a deck on another forum right after the lists split. I have no clue what forum it was, but I posted this horrible deck and someone pointed to the 1.5 forums. Been playing ever since.

[Burr]

Like many other people said, chasing after cards from new sets isnt fun. Rotating cards out is stupid, and the power 9 cost too much.

[mercenarybdu]

Legacy is a margin buyer's format as in "build at your own pace" so when everyone is frantic over the latest cards in Extended, I try to find the next big thing in Legacy before everyone else realizes it.


The format is always wide open and there is still lots of space to explore throughout the format with all the cards there are to boot around. So if I didn't like to play one deck one day then I could switch to another not having to worry about some stupid rotation being in the way just because a certain season is over.

[al the great]

I dont know how many times I've completely stopped playing magic to come back in less than a year and becoming an addict again lol. My friends and I love 1.5 you can quit whenever, put the cards away in your closet (for me it's more like my whole other room), and come take them out when you're ready to play again whether it's tomorrow or in a few months.

Like FoolofaTook said: It allows me to play with the majority of the cards I have collected over the years.

[Nightmare]

Two words:

Brainstorm, fetch.

[Adan]

I play Legacy because I was once forced to play Vintage - unpowered. After Wizards began to establish Legacy, I took a lok at my cardpool and I thought: Cool, I can play with these without the need to buy P9s. And I can keep up with the Metagame.

And it's less of a now-brainer than vintage where you have such retarded starts like: Flash-Hulk, Pact and Force backup. or 1st turn Orchard, Mox, Oath, double-Force-backup...

[Versus]

I like 1 for 3 mana acceleration, sending creatures away forever for W, and countering spells on turn 0. Anything else makes me feel dirty inside.

[ParkerLewis]

the power level feels just right, and some old cards are fun to play with


You can play any deck you can think of relatively competitively with legacy's huge card pool. Also I can't really afford T1. The other thing is that Legacy has the best community of players. :cool:



It doesnt rotate, has a stable metagame but is also effected by new cards/sets.


I play Legacy for all of the above stated reasons.

[Brehn]

1) Price issues. I'm a relatively new player, so:
Playing Legacy is like buying a middle-class car.
Playing Vintage is like buying a Rolls Royce.
Playing Constructed is like renting a car. If you want to drive once or twice it's cheap, but it the long run you could have bought a Rolls Royce with all the money you've spent.

2) Suckiness of other formats.
Vintage is either a stupid no-brainer (see Adan's post) or a serious brainfuck (think GAT mirror). Also, deck designing is... strange ("Take a Vintage deck, replace 10 cards with 10 other cards and you've created a new archetype"). Also, the tournaments are far away and only some of them allow proxies.
Standard has evolved into "Play doods, play removal on your doods, swing". I've done that on the kitchen table, no need to do it in tournaments. Exceptions are rare.
Extended is way too complicated for me, I guess. Between ~10 Tier 1 decks and ~25 Tier 2 decks I can't even predict matchups anymore without playtesting 24/7. Also, the way Extended works at the moment sucks. I've seen Doran players going down to 1 life just because of Fetchlands, Shocklands, Thoughtseizes and Confidants. There's a reason why I yell "Reprint Wasteland" whenever I'm given the opportunity. (Shizo, Death's Storehouse in a competitive deck? Are you kidding me?) Maybe this will get better after the next rotation, I'll make another attempt to get into the format then.

3) Awesomeness of Legacy.
The format is balanced. Everything can be handled/removed/countered (ever tried to remove a Dread Returned Akroma in Extended?). Combo is viable, Combo is fast, Combo is consistant, but Combo is not dominant. There are two "archetypes" which I don't like playing/playing against in any format: Stupid protectionless combo and straight disruptionless aggro. At the moment, only Belcher, Goblins, Goyf Sligh and Burn fall into these categories and none of those decks are dominant or very heavily played. Looking at the Established Decks Forum I see about 60 viable decks that could be tweaked to win tournaments - that's what I call diversity. But if I join a tournament I don't need to playtest against all of those 60 decks before (like in Extended) - that's what I call stability.

[Dilettante]

1) Eternal card pool - No 'cycling out' of cards; innovation can be had from looking at interactions in different lights instead of looking at only new cards and going 'Ooh, shiny!' and just doing the same thing with a different cover. Requires broader thinking in terms of the possibilities of each deck one faces.

2) Relatively more relaxed atmospheres. When's the last time you've seen a judge in a zebra shirt at a Legacy tournament?

3) Generally older crowd. It is infinitely funnier to listen to old people bitch than young people whine. They're pretty much the same thing, just that the former is filtered a bit more.

4) Deck variety, and thus... constant innovation and thought. I think we've finally gotten over the Lackey Barrier. Tarmogoyf is not as hindering to creativity as some think...There were only a few solutions to Turn 1 Lackey. There are *many* more solutions to Tarmogoyf... including jacking him. How useful is a jacked Lackey?

5) I enjoy dicking about with banding, horsemanship, and Chains of Mephistopheles way too much for my own good. Is it so wrong to give my Tarmogoyfs horsemanship?

[FoolofaTook]

3) Generally older crowd. It is infinitely funnier to listen to old people bitch than young people whine. They're pretty much the same thing, just that the former is filtered a bit more.

Old people are much better at bitching than young people are at whining. It's a refined art. :smile:

[VsTheWorld]

1. Rotation sucks. I like knowing my decks will always be legal. Each set brings new cards to the format, but typically only one or two have any significant impact.

2. Perfect power level. I play fake Vintage as well (meaning I play Vintage but I don't play blue) and there's absolutely nothing I can do when I'm on the draw and my opponent goes turn 1 Flash or turn 1 Orchard-powered Oath. It's basically like I don't even get to play a game. On the flip side, I get to use real duals with no drawbacks instead of the painful turn 1 fetch into shockland into Thoughtseize, go to 15 for minimal effect. I get to play Loam with Mox Diamond, I get to play blue with Force, I get to play Ancient Tomb into Chalice at 1 and shut down a good chunk of many decks.

[TheKingslayer]

As Legacy is eternal, it can be a casual or competitve format for players. I've quit playing magic in the past for a year or so a couple of times, and I have never totally been out of the race when I picked it back up again.

The greatest reason for playing legacy is the fact that it has shaped itself into the most balanced format there is. When looking for a competitve deck, you have so many options to choose from.

[C.P.]

My competitive magic experience started with old Extended, and then I grew attached to the cards of the era. There's no other format where you can play those old goodies and get away with it.

but then, it's just a lot of fun even before all that.

[Tosh]

Two words:

Brainstorm, fetch.

That's synonymous with Ancestral Recall.

I play because that's what my friends play. We're starting to dabble into Extended and I actually like it. It's like Legacy only it's a bit slower, has a smaller card pool, and is more forgiving on rogue decks (I almost never play tier 1 decks; occasionally I'll play thresh, but that's it).

[Shtriga]

extended ain't bad, but it blows to get axed to 15 first turn every time I want to play fetch, shock dual into thoughtseize (I was playing domain zoo in extended and it runs no basics), followed by turn 2 dark confidant

[Jak]

If I were to play anything outside of Legacy it would be Standard. I always have wanted to create a random deck and win and Standard is probably the best place for that. If I ever get the cash to play 2 formats, I would.

[emidln]

I like playing with 4x Black Lotus and no other format has that.

[mercenarybdu]

I like playing with 4x Black Lotus and no other format has that.

You gotta be joking? when the P9 aint even allowed here.

[Deep6er]

He's joking. He means Lion's Eye Diamond. He plays a lot of Storm.

[KingAlanI]

BTW, I posted a similar thread on the WotC forums:
http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?p=15373844

A similar summary to what I see here: Many posts are people comparing Legacy favorably to Vintage, others are people comparing Legacy favorably to Standard/Extended. As well as healthy sprinkling of unique advantages that T1.5 has. :)

[TheKingslayer]

It would be quite nice if WOTC would pay some attention to us, instead of treat us like their bastard child.

They don't really make money off of us, but the secondary market does. Kind of sucks, so you can expect them to really promote the newer sets that are used mostly in....standard and extended. Maybe this is an off the wall idea, but WOTC could reprint some of the more powerful cards in a vintage formats legal only set and find some way to promote it a bit more.

[insertnamehere]

I don't have to sell off most of my collection every year when a new stand alone set comes out.

[GreenOne]

Also, the way Extended works at the moment sucks. I've seen Doran players going down to 1 life just because of Fetchlands, Shocklands, Thoughtseizes and Confidants. There's a reason why I yell "Reprint Wasteland" whenever I'm given the opportunity. (Shizo, Death's Storehouse in a competitive deck? Are you kidding me?) Maybe this will get better after the next rotation, I'll make another attempt to get into the format then.


QFT. Also, I'd play Price of Progress all day even in combo decks if it was legal in Extended.

We all know what the price of progress would be: GG.

[raharu]

They don't really make money off of us, but the secondary market does.

Again, I'll propose the idea that WoTC should let a colaboration of the secondary market take posession of the eternal formats, so that we'll have people who give a fuck about the format running it.

Now, we just need to fix the flaws inherent to this system. Thoughts?

[cwt1220]

I like 1 for 3 mana acceleration, sending creatures away forever for W, and countering spells on turn 0. Anything else makes me feel dirty inside.


Pact of negation, and crib swap are in T2, just sayin, but i love legacy combo.

[Di]

QFT. Also, I'd play Price of Progress all day even in combo decks if it was legal in Extended.

We all know what the price of progress would be: GG.

Seeing how Price isn't legal, you would think Magus of the Moon would've put in more top8 slots given how rediculous the manabases were.

Also, to answer the actual thread's question, I play Legacy because it was (oddly) the most popular format in Syracuse when I started playing Magic. When I started playing 10 years ago, I didn't have enough new cards to play Standard, so I started with 1.5. Back then local events would get 30-40 people every week. I eventually got good and started playing competitively and just stuck with the format and won a shit load of money and duals. Seems to have paid off.

[TheKinglsayer]

Well, Raharu, there would have to be an ordered..."government" to regulate the legality of cards internationally. I think wizards would get a little jealous of losing their baby. Plus, that doesn't solve the problem of not enough cards being circulation for the older formats. They should start treating more cards like money than anything for the older formats. Legacy is becoming increasingly harder to play as the cost and amount of certain cards available declines...Dual lands(not damn shock lands), force of will, and such.

[Mental]

I play Legacy for a multitude of reasons, first and foremost being that ovetime, it's the cheapest format to play. Secondly, it also seems the most open/balanced to me. There's a lot of room for innovation and almost every archtype is a viable contender. It's not batshit retarded like extended, where 5 color decks are viable, and not retarded like Vintage, where getting killed/shut down turns 1-2 are common, or Standard, which just costs a shitload of money and isn't very interesting.

[raharu]

Well, Raharu, there would have to be an ordered..."government" to regulate the legality of cards internationally. I think wizards would get a little jealous of losing their baby. Plus, that doesn't solve the problem of not enough cards being circulation for the older formats. They should start treating more cards like money than anything for the older formats. Legacy is becoming increasingly harder to play as the cost and amount of certain cards available declines...Dual lands(not damn shock lands), force of will, and such.
Would Wizards really give a fuck? We already have an inkling that they hate us anyway.

[Bryant Cook]

Also, to answer the actual thread's question, I play Legacy because it was (oddly) the most popular format in Syracuse when I started playing Magic. When I started playing 10 years ago, I didn't have enough new cards to play Standard, so I started with 1.5. Back then local events would get 30-40 people every week. I eventually got good and started playing competitively and just stuck with the format and won a shit load of money and duals. Seems to have paid off.

Same here.

[Whit3 Ghost]

It was the closest thing to Sci-Fi casual that wasn't T1.
I didn't have to worry about rotations or power.

[goobafish]

I started playing because my Vintage friends were playing. I continue playing because it is a fun format, and easy to innovate for.

[PhanTom_lt]

Because it's fun. Oh, and because it was the only format where I could repeat Shandalar power stuff, like ritualing a Hippy on first turn.

[Taurelin]

I started my Magic-career with a pile that consisted of a mixture between old and new cards. When I began to evolve and tune my first decks, it included more old cards like Counterspell, Brainstorm, and ultimately Force of Will. So when a friend took me to my first Tournament, Legacy was the appropriate Format.

Now I still play Legacy as my favourite (and 99% only) format because
- I enjoy playing the decks I have,
- The format will allow me to keep playing but still develop those decks in the future because there is no rotation, and new sets will bring along new cards,
- I have no ambition to pay a fortune for T1 power cards,
- The Format itself is interesting enough to keep me ambitious and happy.

Did I mention that I <3 Legacy, simply? :wink:

[Nightmare]

I guess for a real reason, I started playing 1.5 because Mystical Tutor rotated out of Standard. For serious. Then I quit playing. Then I came back, and my old friends Garvman and Fakespam were playing 1.5. So I played it. Then Legacy was invented, and I was not as bitter as many people, cause I had just gotten back in the game, and didn't have all the pseudo-power.

[Raider Bob]

I have played this format since it was type two in 1995ish. When there was no stack and you didn't die as a statebased effect. When you find something you like you stay with it. I just wish Mana Drain would come back.

[Wallace]

I have been playing Magic since 1994, I love to play legacy because I get to use the cards I grew up playing. Legacy allows you to mix the old with the new, you can play anything from the Original dual lands to Murmuring Bosk from morningtide. I guess the fact that I live in Syracuse helps to, I mean everyone here plays Legacy. I also play standard, Extended and Limited, the only format I don't play is Vintage.

[4815162342]

Newbie to the forum. (but not to legacy) I play Legacy mostly because the card pool is so varied that it actually makes playing fun week in and week out. It also helps that my city has an awesome store that runs Legacy tournaments every Friday that consistently get more that 20 people. Not to mention that the only other thing that draws a big crowd in my city is booster drafts. :|

[lolosoon]

Dark Ritual
Available Card Pool
Budget (no P9)
Dark Ritual+Hippy
Budget (no Rotations)
Dark Ritual+Hymn+Duress//Thoughtseize
Fun
Any Dark Ritual-related shenanigans

[Eldariel]

Because I actually own some cards for it. Oh, and because I always thought it should be the primary Magic-format and never had much sympathy for rotating formats, nor for broken ones. Basically, that leaves me with one competitive format and a bunch of casual ones. So yea, since I like competitive Magic and due to all the things outlined above, I play Legacy.

[Illissius]

Because it's the most diverse and wide open format out there. No format has more possibilities for deckbuilding than Legacy does (though Extended right now is pretty cool). There's also what MattH often says: In Legacy, you can make an impact. In the PTQ formats, you're just hopelessly outgunned by the masses on one side, and the pros on the other. Your best hope is with something like States (which no longer exists), where the environment is new and wide open and you can hopefully innovate better than most of the rest of the chumps in your area, but even then, it'll be outmoded the next day by what the pros came up with, and the best of the rest, as the cream rises to the top. Your chance of innovating something which gains widespread acceptance is vanishingly small. When you factor in that there isn't much of a tournament scene in Hungary, Legacy becomes even more obvious.

[xsockmonkeyx]

I play legacy because it's the beautiful format. There are so many interesting interactions inherent to a pool of 15 years worth of cards. The implications of Fetch->Dual land, Fetch->Basic land, in the context of Wasteland is intriguing. The interaction between LED and Infernal Tutor is elegant. Brainstorm->Fetch is, well, Brainstorm->Fetch. It's beautiful interactions like these which draw me to Legacy and keep me interested in the game.

[technogeek5000]

I play legacy because of the diversity and because since I already own the expensive cards i dont have to spend alot of money on the format. There are a large number of decks that are playable so Everytime i play it is a new experience for me. Also, since i now own most of the money staples, i dont have to pay for a large number of cards everytime a new set comes out. Also the community is great.

[TheKingslayer]

Would Wizards really give a fuck? We already have an inkling that they hate us anyway.

Well, of course they hate us. We don't really invest a lot of money in all of the shiny, new sets they come out with. Even if some organization stepped forward, that wouldn't solve the problems of card circulation. Lots of cards are becoming increasingly difficult to find and afford.

[TheKingslayer]

It would be awesome, but very unlikely, if wizards would come up with a set that would be legal in eternal formats. Printing mostly older cards that have been more used and more powerful cards that will never see the light of day in standard again would make me happy.

[mujadaddy]

Well, of course they hate us. We don't really invest a lot of money in all of the shiny, new sets they come out with. ...because the vast majority of the cards suck.

[TheKingslayer]

Amen. About how many cards truly make an impact upon legacy with every set release? Like 0-5. Future sight had the most impact with Goyfs(of course), Narcomoebas, and wtf ever I can't even remember. Then again, we aren't looking for big innovation with the format. It is already very wide open and balanced, although they could nudge some of the almost good decks up to tier 1(somewhat like the release of bridge from below). What we are looking for is cheaper dual lands, more force of wills, and some love from Wizards.

Legacy is up for adoption and it won't poop all over your house either. : )

[mujadaddy]

I don't know if they can do that, though, without breaking the newer formats :laugh: ... What they NEED is a "Portal" type set that is reprints of old staples... so that the set is illegal in Ext & Std, but still legal for Leg&Vin :cool:

[TheKingslayer]

That's what I suggested, only it was worded kind of very poorly. I think if they even thought about it, they would hesitate to do so, because they just came out with "timeshifted". But, the timeshifted cards really weren't all powerful. I think they had a good idea on MTGO with something along the lines of Master's Edition, only they need to pick better cards.

[mujadaddy]

As you said, Duals & Forces are the likely candidates :)

[Jaiminho]

I don't know if they can do that, though, without breaking the newer formats :laugh: ... What they NEED is a "Portal" type set that is reprints of old staples... so that the set is illegal in Ext & Std, but still legal for Leg&Vin :cool:

Just like the pre-con Coldsnap decks. They had Brainstorm, Portend and Swords to Plowshares, which are obviously not T2 legal. I've mailed them about it on "Ask Wizards" and got vacuum as response. They'd even make money out of it... we'd buy tons of boosters of this new t2 illegal edition.

[mujadaddy]

They'd even make money out of it... we'd buy tons of boosters of this new t2 illegal edition.
Hellz yeah we would! :tongue: An $8 booster with a Dual or a Force? C'mon, who wouldn't? They'd run out!

[TheKingslayer]

I would shell out my life savings of $24 for truckloads of this pure craziness. Everyone would. THey could have draft events as well. People would pay extra, and for what?...May I remind you what this game is? Paper and ink...Fun paper and ink though. Plus, it just gets your adrenaline going, knowing you're playing with a brand-new set that is illegal in T2.

I think wizards is skeptical and would think it a big gamble to print something like that.

[Shtriga]

reprinting duals? very unlikely (wouldn't it be sweet?)

they openly said in the past that no land should be strictly better than a basic land, hence why they reprinted dual lands that hit you for 2 damage (that's as good as it gets)

but if it was tournament illegal, I don't really know what would be their stance.. still looks highly unlikely - unless, they introduced a legacy PTQ circuit, in which case they could do that to make the cards more easily acessible - there probably wouldn't be enough if everyone attending PTQs all around the world were in need of them, and they'd need a way out - but this has been discussed a few months ago in some thread already and it wasn't pretty

[Jaiminho]

They won't even be able to think about Legacy PTQs until they do that reprintage. If that works and brings up the Legacy community whole lots of new members, then that can be thought of.

How could a t2 illegal set release harm Wizards? I mean... how could it be a gamble?

[GiantGrowth]

first my reply to the topic:
I got into legacy because some of my favorite cards rotated out of extended, and then I heard of this new format where I could use all my cards, but I wouldn't loose if I lost the coin flip. I stayed in legacy because I am comfortable with the power lever and cards, and ill be damned if I have to learn the decks to another format.


now to the other topic:
an eternal-only legal reprint set would be great for everybody, wizards could grossly over charge for the cards, and all it wouldn't affect the amount of purchases at all(almost). We save money, wizards makes money. Everybody wins! they could even repring cards that have no reason to be so expensive (portal, legends and such) I really don't see how wizards would be hurt by this.

[Osse]

now to the other topic:
an eternal-only legal reprint set would be great for everybody, wizards could grossly over charge for the cards, and all it wouldn't affect the amount of purchases at all(almost). We save money, wizards makes money. Everybody wins! they could even repring cards that have no reason to be so expensive (portal, legends and such) I really don't see how wizards would be hurt by this.

Here's why it won't happen; They don't need a sudden increase in sales of magic products. Things like this will only happen when they all go into a board meeting and are met with the facts that say: "Kay, we need money, quick" You have to keep in mind that if they release something they'll eventually stop producing it as well, and their "need money quick" is only really a patch and not a solution. Though I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter to most of the higher-ups at Wizards, this would also off-set the Secondary Market, things like Tabernacle and co. (Which under your 'standards' should be reprinted) would lose value, and dealers would be upset. Also, an 'eternal-only' block/set won't make THAT much money, because alot of people just don't pay attention to eternal like they do other constructed formats. I'm not trying to crush your dreams or anything, but get out of your hole, and deal with the facts.

[GiantGrowth]

Here's why it won't happen; They don't need a sudden increase in sales of magic products. Things like this will only happen when they all go into a board meeting and are met with the facts that say: "Kay, we need money, quick" You have to keep in mind that if they release something they'll eventually stop producing it as well, and their "need money quick" is only really a patch and not a solution. Though I'm pretty sure it doesn't matter to most of the higher-ups at Wizards, this would also off-set the Secondary Market, things like Tabernacle and co. (Which under your 'standards' should be reprinted) would lose value, and dealers would be upset. Also, an 'eternal-only' block/set won't make THAT much money, because alot of people just don't pay attention to eternal like they do other constructed formats. I'm not trying to crush your dreams or anything, but get out of your hole, and deal with the facts.

Lol thats funny, I compare where I live to a hole all the time. I agree with the first thing you said, but I really don't think prices would drop of the originals by very much, alpha cards are still damn expensive when we can get perfectly good armageddons for 5 dollars, but alphas are ten times that. that being said, I do see your point and don't honestly believe wizards would do something like this unless they really were desperate for money.

[Thehunter820]

I started playing legacy because all of my friends did. However, now that I know about other formats, I dont like Type 2 becuz its too slow and different from legacy for my liking, and I dont want to have to worry about reworking my deck when each set comes out. I dont play type 1 because I perfer to not lose if you dont go first, nor do I want to pay all that money for the cards.

[TheKingslayer]

Yes, the value of some cards would decrease somewhat, but like he said, the prices wouldn't fluctuate that dramatically for them just being old cards. As well, why should any card be expensive? The secondary market would be making a lot of money off of sales of boosters and such of this "vintage-legacy" set. I feel that more players would get involved with legacy if wizards gave it some attention and threw some big events.

[lord3vil]

I have a full set of power to play Vintage and all the money needed to play Standard and Extended competetively. However, I stick to casual Legacy and will probably do so until the game dies because:

Playing with power in Vintage isn't as fun as it used to be, the format is much too fast and there's too little variety.
Standard and Extended are too competetive and intensive formats for my tastes. I'm simply not willing to spend that much time to keep up with the game. Magic is of casual interest to me, it's not an all-consuming hobby.
It allows me to use virtually all the cards in the collection I've accumulated over the past 10 years.
In terms of power, my casual Legacy decks are roughly on par with some decks built from the Extended block of cards, which is what some of my friends play.
A lot of cool and interesting deck concepts can be built and explored due to the large card pool.
It's a fairly well balanced format.
Rotation isn't an issue, which is great, since I've literally spent years between buying new cards for some of my decks. My Magic hiatuses tend to last for a year or two as well.


I do miss Mana Drain, but I suspect the card is just too powerful for the format.

[sergeantscruffy]

I play because I like to be able to use all my cards. Also it's nice to play, stop playing for awhile and be able to pick up one of your old decks and jump right back in.

[Bovinious]

I play because Ichorid/Dredge is one of the best decks, probably the best. The only other formats in which this is even thinkable are Vintage (debatable) and Extended, which is about to rotate and become awful anyways. I also dont have anything else to do with my life really, so I figure this is about as good as anything else :wink:

[TheKingslayer]

I was wondering if the mods would be willing to seperate and create a new thread with the posts about wizards support for legacy and reprinting.

Anyone?