Sensei's Divining Top and the stack
Say I have a sensei's divining top out, and I want the card on the top of my deck, but I don't want to draw top next turn. Can I do the following:
1. Activate top to look at the top 3 cards and put that ability on the stack?
2. Use top's tap and draw a card ability and put that on the stack.
3. Begin resolving the stack by first drawing a card and putting the top on top.
4. Finish resolving the stack by reordering my top 3 cards?
I have never seen this done so I have a feeling something is illegal here.
Re: Sensei's Divining Top and the stack
Perfect doable, I do it often when low on life, needing a card and a Confidant out wanting to reveal a land.
It's also useful with a Counterbalance out even if you want to draw top next just to keep your opponent guessing what's on top.
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What you describe is exactly right.
You may not have seen it done because it's something of an advanced maneuver and not something that you want to do very often.
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cdr
You may not have seen it done because it's something of an advanced maneuver and not something that you want to do very often.
I do it very often. The main point here is that very few people know how to use a top.
Re: Sensei's Divining Top and the stack
Yes and the other thing about top to note is, whene someone tap top to draw a card its the only change to destroy it with a disenchant. You also could sacrifice to ravager or welder it out and you still draw a card.
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HdH_Cthulhu
Yes and the other thing about top to note is, whene someone tap top to draw a card its the only change to destroy it with a disenchant. You also could sacrifice to ravager or welder it out and you still draw a card.
He still draws the card if you DE the Top, so what's the point? (I hope I didn't get confused from your grammatical and spelling errors).
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Forbiddian
He still draws the card if you DE the Top, so what's the point?
huh ? um, his point is thats when its possible to destroy the top for good, not to disenchant it to prevent card drawing. otherwise the opponent would just draw the top back in a turn or two. seemed pretty clear to me.
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Forbiddian
I hope I didn't get confused from your grammatical and spelling errors.
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HdH_Cthulhu
sorry for my bad english
i came from austria...
seriously. give the guy a break.
Re: Sensei's Divining Top and the stack
It's also possible to use Mind over Matter (or another untap effect) + SDT to put multiple activations of the card draw on the stack.
Re: Sensei's Divining Top and the stack
Isn't there an issue in the second step?
- Use Top's tap and draw a card ability and put that on the stack: You can't use Top's draw a card ability after you've activated its first ability. Once you activate Top's first ability, you must resolve it completely before you can activate other abilities of the Top.
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Am i wrong here?
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Geni
Isn't there an issue in the second step?
- Use Top's tap and draw a card ability and put that on the stack: You can't use Top's draw a card ability after you've activated its first ability. Once you activate Top's first ability, you must resolve it completely before you can activate other abilities of the Top.
Am i wrong here?
You can't play abilities while other abilities are resolving, but just activating an ability doesn't make it start resolving until all players pass priority.
Do note that if you try this trick at Competitive REL or above (lol, there might be another Legacy GP) you must announce that you're retaining priority while activating the first ability.
