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I don't know if this is the right forum for this, but with MODO dailies indefinitely getting the ax, anyone wanna arrange to fire an 8-man (or two or three with the turnout dailies have been getting lately) around the usual time tomorrow? Maybe if there's enough interest, we can even organize staggered flights, but I'm probably being unreasonably optimistic. I'm good for 8:30pm EST-ish.
as someone who hasnt been paying attention at all - do you have a link to these changes?
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazin...1122013/queues
I wonder what this spells out for the hype of "Vintage's future in MTGO".
It basically confirms the opinion of the Vintage players to not invest into MTGO because "data rows".Quote:
Originally Posted by Higgs
But how can they fuck up THAT bad? Their competition isn't sleeping and they basically killed the main reason to play competitive until further notice.
As far as 8-man Queues are concerned - I think it should be pretty easy to organize. We could set a certain time for each day to fire of our 8-man events, e.g. every day at 19:00 GMT +1 for Europeans (Americans could do the same for their time zones etc.). All we need to do is messaging people to remind them of the event, like Lejay did. The price support for 8-mans kinda sucks, but we can't have everything.
Edit: Why aren't they adding 16 man queues with similiar payout to daily events? It seems like a shaddy move to use the crash to get rid of the event that wields the highest EV.
So where is the best place to liquidate about 250k MTGO cards I have no interest in playing now.
Right after I finished building Elves!
I just feel like screaming KHAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Kirk style.
WotC has never "gotten" software development for whatever reason. The MTGO v1 client/server - which was actually kinda good for the time - was done by an outside developer. DCIR (the original tournament-running software) was done by an outside developer. Despite having years and years to work on the in-house replacements, neither replacement works as well as the original nor really looks much better. Oh, and DOTP? Outside developer.
I hear WotC pays poorly even by game company standards (which are below industry standards to begin with), which no doubt has something to do with it. WotC culture is somehow just so horribly broken though that they cannot produce a reasonable software product in any amount of time.
This is what you need to read:
http://bmkgaming.com/magic-online-ch...-series-exist/
Lots of people say good things about MTGO Traders:Quote:
Originally Posted by Dan Turner
http://www.mtgotraders.com/buylist/
God, every time I think of getting into MODO then read something like this...Quote:
Originally Posted by Tormod
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Wait I thought they were just doing some online Vintage Masters thing? And now there's no place to play the stuff from it? I don't get how this online works.
I think that was scheduled for january, they probably get MTGO working around then as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by PirateKing
I don't know what's worse - Wizards' marketing or their online department.Quote:
Originally Posted by PirateKing
Vintage Masters was June or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by dsck
The funny part is that people already start to blame Kibler for the loss of daily events. I wouldn't be suprised if Wizards used the chance to get rid of daily events to screw us even further and use him as a scapegoat.
Seems like if you're going to buy into MODO, now would be the time. It's not like they aren't going to fix it and the suspension of Dailies, PTQs, premier events, etc. are only going to depress card prices in the short term.Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard Cheese
I am honestly inclined to think that wotc has no clue what they are doing and are just incredibly lucky that they own a game that can survive through their mediocrity. Modo UI is straight out of the 1990s and still lags and crashes all the time. I actually hope that Hearthstone becomes incredibly popular so it forces wotc to actually do something about it. The beta client is a step sideways (if not backwards, if that is even possible), it boggles my mind how such an incompetent team is behind such a popular product. What events aren't terrible now? I know release queues used to be decent ev, but they changed that, so probably only momir? As long has people keep playing it, they wont do shit.
I once saw a player give WOTC a semi-backhanded compliment in that they made a game so great (Magic) that the player was still willing to use something as awful as MTGO to play it.
Buy when everyone else is selling. They will fix modo. They just have to find time / money to do it so don't sell everyting ;)
Money isn't the issue. The online PTQ that crashed during round 9 on Sunday alone pulled in some $21,000. (700+ players x $30 without having any print, production, and distribution costs, no rental of a venue and no judges)
They are simply making money hand over fist with out having to be accountable to their consumer. Its all greed and ego running wild and free.
I don't understand how people can blame the victim in all of this. Kibler wrote about his experience, requesting the problem be addressed from a systematic level. Worth Wollpert and the MTGO team decided to effectively GUT all the tournament offerings as a response to degrading stability of their product, and now Kibler is the one to blame for all the ills and woes of the shitty software?Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Some people really ought to go hide in a cave and never return.
WotC has no clue how to build software. One look at Wizard Event Report should tell you that. Any attempt to design and develop the product in-house is a dead end track.
I'm not sure they really want to develop it outside, though. There's a bunch of issues that come with that which could be avoided if they had a decent in-house team.
The big problem right now is that there's no relief in sight. The beta is somehow even worse than the current product - I mean, it's one thing for a beta to be to be unpolished because it's a beta, but Jesus Fucking Christ is that beta a train wreck. And the sad thing is that this program has exist since 2002 - eleven years and they STILL can't get it to be reasonable stable. If I was Dictator of WotC I would just sac the entire dev team, raise salaries, and bring in a new team that knows what it's doing to revamp the UI and back end so that the product is stable and nice-looking.
It's sad, really. You'd think after more than a decade of having a reputation for not being able to make good software to save their lives, someone at WotC would wake up and do something about it. But I guess the idea is that software is a secondary concern to the paper game.