Commander 2014 thread

Seeing as Khans has its own thread and it only has one card, here's a thread for commander.

So far only a crappy planeswalker

Teferi, Temporal Archmage 4UU
Planeswalker - Teferi
+1: Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the other on the bottom of your library.
-1: Untap up to four target permanents.
-10: You get an emblem with "You may activate loyalty abilities of planeswalkers you control on any player's turn any time you could cast an instant."
Tefri, Temporal Archmage can be your commander.
Loyalty 5

Could this Planeswalker be useful in High Tide? Untap Islands with High Tide, untap Candles? (I honestly have no idea, I have never played High Tide.)

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Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu

Could this Planeswalker be useful in High Tide? Untap Islands with High Tide, untap Candles? (I honestly have no idea, I have never played High Tide.)

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Really funny that Jace at 6 CMC would be better than this^^ I think it is completely fine to print a non blue PW that has the same powerlevel as Jace in Commander 2014. But i doubt they'll do it. Even Jace is too bad in Commander. At least that's what i heard, i don't play and like Commander.

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Originally Posted by Cire

Seeing as Khans has its own thread and it only has one card, here's a thread for commander.

So far only a crappy planeswalker

Teferi, Temporal Archmage 4UU
Planeswalker - Teferi
+1: Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the other on the bottom of your library.
-1: Untap up to four target permanents.
-10: You get an emblem with "You may activate loyalty abilities of planeswalkers you control on any player's turn any time you could cast an instant."
Tefri, Temporal Archmage can be your commander.
Loyalty 5

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I hadn't realized it at first, but that ult is really interesting in EDH. The planeswalkers rules say you can activate once per turn. If you're in, say, a 4 person game, your Jace could be at 13 the first time that you untap with him in play.

Hello,

maybe its odd but why is a 2 Mana planeswalker which makes Jace Brainstorm instantspeed
and gives you a significant resouce Advantage in Mana so ba? Jeah he is kin of slow not that this matters
in control Decks but when he hist the table he actually makes profit in the same turn because you can untap 4 of the used
lands with his ability
and then he helps with Libary manipulation and with the emlem you can cast all of the abilities one more time because you can cast them in the
opponents turn as well.

So if you just concider effiency and and expect longer Games were you get to 6 Mana regularly he should be pretty good when your resoucres
like counter or removal get scarer every turn.

Best Regards Teveshszat

Because you need him to survive 5 rounds around the table before the ultimate and before you can go bonkers with other plansewalkers? Till then . . . it's just expensive card draw.

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Originally Posted by Vicar in a tutu

Could this Planeswalker be useful in High Tide? Untap Islands with High Tide, untap Candles? (I honestly have no idea, I have never played High Tide.)

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I don't think High Tide wants to spend six mana for a Turnabout.

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Originally Posted by Meekrab

I don't think High Tide wants to spend six mana for a Turnabout.

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Yeah, I buy that. Hopefully at least one of the five new planeswalkers in Commander 2014 will be playable in legacy (each of the five 2014 Commander decks will have a new planeswalker as general, according to Maro).

Dont think of him as a Turnabout. Think of him as Palinchron...

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Originally Posted by Offler

Dont think of him as a Turnabout. Think of him as Palinchron...

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I can envision Teferi untapping Mana Vault, Sol Ring, Grim Monolith, etc quite often in EDH.

Astral Cornucopia
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
Gilded lotus
Teferi's isle

High Tide
Extraplanar Lens
Gauntlet of power
Caged sun

Rings of Brighthearth


i was thinking of bouncing him, but... if you can sacrifice a permanent, you can cast him from command zone with extra 2 mana per each cycle... but if the combo can produce 3 extra mana per cycle... :)

Edit
I would not be surprised if he will be banned as a commander after all :)

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Originally Posted by Teveshszat

Hello,

maybe its odd but why is a 2 Mana planeswalker which makes Jace Brainstorm instantspeed
and gives you a significant resouce Advantage in Mana so ba? Jeah he is kin of slow not that this matters
in control Decks but when he hist the table he actually makes profit in the same turn because you can untap 4 of the used
lands with his ability
and then he helps with Libary manipulation and with the emlem you can cast all of the abilities one more time because you can cast them in the
opponents turn as well.

So if you just concider effiency and and expect longer Games were you get to 6 Mana regularly he should be pretty good when your resoucres
like counter or removal get scarer every turn.

Best Regards Teveshszat

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Because he costs six, not two.

Best regards, IBA

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Originally Posted by Offler

Dont think of him as a Turnabout. Think of him as Palinchron...

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That seems considerably less accurate.

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Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin

That seems considerably less accurate.

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Indeed. His -1 would read, "Untap X target Candelabra of Tawnos, then, if X is less than four, untap 4-X lands."

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Originally Posted by Darkenslight

Indeed. His -1 would read, "Untap X target Candelabra of Tawnos, then, if X is less than four, untap 4-X lands."

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How about in 12-post? Untapping Cloudpost along with Candelabra sounds pretty good.

It costs the same as Prime Time and can't protect itself so probably not.

Not a lot of six cc cards get played in Legacy, and a card whose main functional utility is an effect that has no meaning in Legacy seems not the best candidate.

Moin,

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Infamous Bear Assasin
Because he costs six, not two.

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When does this Card costs 6 mana? I mean you cast it you untap 4 Lands and what is left are 2 tapped Mana so he actually
costs 2 Mana when casted.
Yes you can Counter him but actually this count for other heavy investment cards likke entreat,Jace,Natural Order etc too so
this is a argument against him.
His ultimate is a Game breaker with himself on its own and rediculus with Jace on the field and in addtion to that he
is stupid strong with Karakas and provides a Preordain Option.
He can´t protect himself yes but this should not a problem for a well builded control deck.

I don´t think you should play him 3 or 4 times but 1 or 2 copies of him seeming very soild
to test in decks which have enough inteactions with him or want libary manipulation in
a long term.

Best Regards Teveshszat

If any planeswalker is ultimating, it should be game winning. Why is that a new concept?

The outlay on the card is six mana, untapping is a minus ability. In effect, you get nothing but diminishing returns if you are planning to use him like that.

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Originally Posted by Megadeus

If any planeswalker is ultimating, it should be game winning. Why is that a new concept?

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I think with these guys, it need not be that way. You can cast them over and over, slowly pushing them up and gaining advances as you do. I am willing to bet none of the Commander Zone legal Planeswalkers will have a game ending ability.