Bouncy Castle (Karakas plus Leyline of Singularity)
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Some points: If you are playing legendary memes, you need to play Bounty agent.
And the chance of drawing 2 of the same card is pretty low, you should increase all your 1 ofs to 2 ofs so you can cut bad cards.
Honor worn shaku decreases the cost of your entire deck by 1 and immediately lets your leylines tap for mana.
Eijango castle seems decent in this deck.
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Good ideas, I completely forgot bounty and castle. Will think on which critters to double up.
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Nice deck-theme!
Don't we need some tutors to find karakas or leyline faster/more often?
Best regards
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Also play the 4th vial. The 2nd vial is horrible anyways and you want it in all your hands.
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Minamo, School at Water’s Edge? It has some applications with Karakas, Aether Vial, Mother/Giver of Runes, and Mangara.
Does this deck need Leyline in the opener or can you live without it? If you need it, have you tried Serum Powder?
Seems like you could boost the number of Recruiters of the Guard. Sometimes a duplicate will die to the legend rule, but the point is mainly the tutoring, not the 1/1 body.
Lavinia, Azorius Renegade could be OK if you’re already digging deep for singleton hatebears in UW. And it’s legendary and pitches to FoW.
I don’t get Runed Halo. Where’s the synergy? Runed Halo doesn’t shine more when there’s only one Goyf compared to when there are four Goys. Yes, Maze of Ith is better when you make Goyfs legendary, but Runed Halo doesn’t care. You also can’t tutor for it so it seems random. Needle and Spyglass are weird for the same reason. They’ll feel great when they shut down the last enemy permanent that could hurt you, but they’re not actually gaining anything from this being a Singularity deck, and you have no way to tutor them. They’re fine cards in general, but that’s all they are here.
Hunted Phantasm is cute but also janky as hell and doesn’t shore up your biggest weakness, which is any situation where you’re without a leyline. Even with a Leyline it’s only situationally better than TNN, which you’ve already got and which is tutorable by Recruiter. I’d cut Phantasm.
Empress Galina is crazy slow but maybe keep it in mind? Fun versus SnT > Emrakul? Not that you’re weak to that anyway...
Weathered Wayfarer gets various utility lands including Karakas and Maze of Ith. It’s also yet another card with Flickerwisp synergy.
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I think this deck needs a few tainted pact to find leyline, and 4 cornered market as a backup leyline.
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I don't think this Leyline is playable, but I'd be tempted to play Empress Galina here, maybe with Volrath's Shapeshifter to get the activation more easily.
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This deck needs more Oko, Thief of Crowns because
1) Oko is Legendary
2) You are playing Magic: The Gathering, therefore Oko is good
3) Elks will legend rule each other.... +1 destroy target creature or artifact
Edit: no they don't
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Are you sure about the Elk interaction? Does Oko actually change the *name* of the permanent being Elked?
You can still play Oko because it’s a good card, but I don’t think the Leyline interaction works the way you want it to.
Edit: If Oko made Elk tokens it would be different.
Edit2: lol at Cornered Market. Now I want to make a terrible deck that’s 4 Cornered Market and one of every permanent that gets hardcast and one of every non basic land in Legacy. One goyf, one astrolabe, one Oko, one of every fetch and blue dual... one Chalice :D
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BirdsOfParadise
Are you sure about the Elk interaction? Does Oko actually change the *name* of the permanent being Elked?
You can still play Oko because it’s a good card, but I don’t think the Leyline interaction works the way you want it to.
Edit: If Oko made Elk tokens it would be different.
Edit2: lol at Cornered Market. Now I want to make a terrible deck that’s 4 Cornered Market and one of every permanent that gets hardcast and one of every non basic land in Legacy. One goyf, one astrolabe, one Oko, one of every fetch and blue dual... one Chalice :D
You're right, it doesn't change the name I think. I thought it did. I'm used to putting 3/3 Elk tokens on everything in paper Magic and Cockatrice, but that's not actually what the card does.
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I updated the op with people's suggestions, thanks everyone. Thinking of submitting it as a donation deck soon to one of the streamers.
Some responses to points brought up:
Needle/sorcerous md is mostly due to oko, griselbrand, wasteland. Pretty much every deck is running one of those, cut revoker though since it's not good vs. delver.
The wayfarer inclusion will help to get karakas, not sure if Cornered Market is good enough...
Runed halo benefits just like maze does from leyline unless I'm missing something. They'll be stuck with 1 delver in play and hopefully some in their hand.
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Really think you need to play at least 2 of all your 1 ofs. Look at every single legendary card in legacy that cannot be tutored. Do they play only 1 thalia? or 1 karakas? or 1 urborg? If you aren't running tainted pact I would run 3 of all your non-leyline cards
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Here’s what I mean about runed halo. Say they are only allowed to have one delver in play bc the delvers are legendary. Great, runed halo protects you. Now say you don’t have a leyline, so there are 4 delivers in play. Great, runed halo protects you from all 4. Now maybe runed halo is good enough to run, but it doesn’t do a better job in this deck than it would do in, say, DnT. It doesn’t protect you better or worse because you run leyline. If nobody runs it in Legacy, I’m guessing it’s a card that doesn’t pull its weight, but I could be wrong.
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BirdsOfParadise
Here’s what I mean about runed halo. Say they are only allowed to have one delver in play bc the delvers are legendary. Great, runed halo protects you. Now say you don’t have a leyline, so there are 4 delivers in play. Great, runed halo protects you from all 4. Now maybe runed halo is good enough to run, but it doesn’t do a better job in this deck than it would do in, say, DnT. It doesn’t protect you better or worse because you run leyline. If nobody runs it in Legacy, I’m guessing it’s a card that doesn’t pull its weight, but I could be wrong.
Ah got it, I've run it many times in legacy as an enlightened tutor option in the mighty quinn. It reminds me of collective brutality, almost always good but rarely very good. I think it's better in here though, helps set up the pillow fort defense.
@reeple: I agree the one of's count is still too high, but I'm envisioning the deck too be more toolboxy like gsz decks with lots of one of's. Just using bstorm plus recruiter over gsz.
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You could just fit the bouncy castle combo cleanly into the Leylines deck.
Is there a companion that fits in that deck?
//Leylines: 24
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Leyline of Sanctity
4 Leyline of Singularity
3 Leyline of Lifeforce
3 Leyline of Anticipation
3 Leyline of Punishment
3 Leyline of the Meek
//Other Enchantments and Artifacts: 8
4 Opalescence
2 Banishing Light
1 Oblivion Ring
1 Heliod, God of the Sun
//Spells: 10
4 Enlightened Tutor
4 Crop Rotation
2 Idyllic Tutor
//Lands: 18
3 Karakas
4 Serra's Sanctum
4 Savannah
4 Razorverge Thicket
3 Horizon Canopy
The Legend rule is a bit awkward, but if you use most of the Leylines at 2x or 3x then it should be fine.
Crop Rotation also helps enable the Karakas combo.
Maybe you could fit in Keruga with these changes:
- some GW lands
+4 Ancient Tomb
-4 Crop Rotation
-4 ETutor
+2 Idyllic Tutor
+4 Karn, the Great Creator
And you could fit in Helm of Obedience as a wincon in the Karn board and Ensnaring Bridges either SB or main. Trinisphere would be good too.
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The Keruga companion requirement annoyingly is no spells (not just perms) under 3cc. But cutting e tutor/crop for other stuff would work. The potential to draw tons of cards in here (and redraw if you bounce him) using Keruga is worth exploring I think.
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if you are playing keruga and sol lands in leylines, it probably is worth playing sol lands + trinisphere + elvish spirit guide over the tutors. You could run 4 starfield of instead of the tutors as well since the extra mana probably doesn't matter as much. If you play all the green leylines you have a pretty good shot at nyxthos being an additional sol land.
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