Awesome, one less Needle aimed at Deed and Top.
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Awesome, one less Needle aimed at Deed and Top.
No one would ever Needle crypt vs Truffle Shuffle, unless they have three in hand. As far as additional combo hate, Sphere slows you down a lot, so maybe Rule of Law or Extirpate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nihil
Going to 2 Tops is a horrible idea in this deck. That is your engine, you want to get it online ASAP. 3 is a good number because you don't want it clogging your hand. First turn top usually wins games for me, it lets me find what I want against certain matchups.
I like the Hierarchs and witnesses main, as I have had them main for months now.
With 3 Hierarchs you really only need 1 Gigapede, as it is inferior against aggro, and against control you'll have time to find it. I play:
1 Gigapede
2 Hierarch
2 Tusker
3 Witness
With 1 Scarab and 1 Hierarch in the board for G. Wish.
I also like all my Deeds MD. Vindicate in the board is ok, but I would actually replace it with Putrefy and keep the 4th Vindicate main. Wishing for an enchantment removal is almost never going to be relevant, but you might need an out for Needle, and this lets it not be Vindicate, which Mage is probably chanting.
Well, loyal Truffle Shuffle players, what will we be doing for combo sideboard hate at the GP? I already pack Witness and Therapy of course, and Leyline for IGGy Pop and Hulk Flash, but is this enough or of the correct nature? I am also considering Extirpate, as it works very well with all the discard.
<edit>I will include my current SB:
4 Eternal Witness
4 Cabal Therapy
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Condemn
2 Gaea's Blessing
I would really like to fit in the 4th Leyline, and as I really don't expect to see too much Solidarity, I might eschew Blessings for 1 more Leyline and another Condemn.</edit>
Don't play this deck. As much as it pains me to say it. Other decks can hate on HulkFlash a lot more effectively than you can, and Leylines being anywhere makes your kill conditions kind of weak. You'll probably smash the decks hating on HulkFlash, but to be honest they're not going to do as well as HulkFlash itself anyway.
Although I really hope they just ban the card so I can play this thing.
So in a HulkFlash-free-otherwise-pretty-much-random meta this deck would do allright, yes?
What would be the most current list? (barring HulkFlash).
Trying to revive our Legacy meta here, so having a tourney. For a meta of 1 IGGy, 1 Spring Tide, 1 UGw *****, 2 Pox, 1 Goblins, 1 SalvaGame, some random decks, would this be a correct choice? Or Red Death, BW Confidant or Funkbrew would be better?
This seems like a solid choice for that meta. You may want to add a bit more discard to the main even. With Iggy, Spring Tide, and Pox you will want more disruption. Red Death may be a better pick for that meta, seeing as it already has the disruption package. If you do play Truffle Shuffle, I would suggest MD'ing 3 Therapies or Gerrard's Verdicts on top of Duress and Hymn.
You should maindeck 3 Gerrard's Verdict in this meta and sideboard 2-3 extirpate.Quote:
Originally Posted by PhanTom_lt
Hay, I want to start playing leg, and I thought of this deck. It looks a lot like my normal decks. Could anyone give me a current decklist + sideboard, and maybe a bit info about what card I have to add/cut against wich deck?
Grz TLN
// Deck file for Magic Workstation (http://www.magicworkstation.com)
// Lands
4 [A] Bayou
3 [UNH] Swamp
2 [MI] Forest (4)
4 [ON] Windswept Heath
3 [ON] Polluted Delta
3 [U] Scrubland
1 [U] Plains (2)
3 [R] Savannah
// Creatures
3 [FD] Eternal Witness
1 [ON] Gigapede
1 [RAV] Grave-Shell Scarab
3 [ON] Krosan Tusker
// Spells
4 [AT] Hymn to Tourach
4 [US] Duress
3 [PLC] Damnation
1 [OD] Haunting Echoes
4 [CHK] Sensei's Divining Top
4 [4E] Swords to Plowshares
4 [AP] Vindicate
4 [AP] Pernicious Deed
1 [DIS] Condemn
// Sideboard
SB: 2 [DIS] Condemn
SB: 3 [JU] Cabal Therapy
SB: 4 [GP] Leyline of the Void
SB: 3 [PS] Orim's Chant
SB: 3 [RAV] Loxodon Hierarch
Thanks, I'll try it. You should have a better combo matchup in this way... or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin
A better matchup against relatively slower combo, yes. By 'relatively slower' I mean 'not Hulk-Flash,' but the Leylines in the board are pretty good there as long as you can hit their bounce with discard somehow. Use Witness to best effect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Khepri
Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin
So no wishes?
Not legal yet.
There going to be legal somewere end may right? I'm testing a deck to play during the summer, so it doesn't matter is they aren't legal now. I just have to now wich cards I have to search for.
Grz Thomas
Yes, they become legal on May 20th.
Pre-Hulk Flash, I was going to go and play Truffle at the GP with a terrible (but hot) SB:
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Funeral Charm
4x Gerrard's Verdict
3x Orim's Chant
It would have been pretty entertaining. Alas, Flash happened, and, well...you know the story.
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Leg N00B
-1 Deed
-1 Vindicate
-2 Grave-Shell Scarab
Are probably the easiest cuts... at that point, depending on the metagame, you might also cut the Condemn and/or a Damnation, especially if combo is still popular after the banning of Hulk-Flash.
Jack, your most recent list has only one Grave-Shell Scarab. He might mean Eternal Witness or Condemn.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin
You think they're going to ban hulk flash? Cause I'm building that to.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheInfamousBearAssassin
Grz TLN
Played this deck in our last Legacy tourney. 10 players, standings:
1st: Dryad/goyf Sligh
2nd: IGGy Pop w/ red (almost TES, but not quite)
3rd-4th Truffle Shuffle (me) and Pox
5th: Squirrel Ferrrma (!!)
others:
Ichorid, UGw ********, Boros, UGmadness, Goblins
Decklist:
Lands:
4 Scrubland
1 Bayou
1 Savannah
1 nantuko Monastery
2 Plains
1 Swamp
2 Forest
1 Urborg, Tomb of yawgmoth
2 Temple Garden
2 Overgrown Tomb
3 Windswept Heath
1 Polluted Delta
1 Flooded Strand
1 Bloodstained Mire
Creatures;
4 Loxodon Hierarch - MVP
2 Eternal Witness
2 Gigapede
1 Eternal Dragon - underperformer
3 Krosan Tusker - piggys are great.
Spells:
4 Vindicate
1 Wrath of God
1 Damnation
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Duress
4 Hymn to Tourach
3 Sensei's Divining Top
1 Haunting Echoes
3 Perniciuos Deed
Board:
2 Extirpate
2 Gerrard's Verdict
4 Leyline of the Void
4 Cabal Therapy
2 Infest
1 Condemn.
1st round: IGGy pop.
Damn, i hate playing against combo.
1st game: i mull a hand with 2 stp, dragon, 4 land, keep a 6er. he keeps. i go land, top. he puts leyline into play, land, petal, d.ritual, igg. damn. but he doesn't win for quite soem time, and top almost puts me into victory, but with him at 2 life, and facing 2 gigapede's, he topdecks a win.
game 2. I side in 12 cards, taking out spot removal, , while he is looking at his library, and says: "i forgot to pull out a proxy from my deck - an Izzet boilerworks for a steam vents". he threatens to leave if we don't let him change, and we let him, because he lent a lot of cards for tourney. At least he takes a game loss. Game 3, i guess he didn't shuffle enough, as all his gas is on the bottom of the library, we checked after the game. Didn't expect to win this one.
2nd round:
Goblins:
I go 1-0 against him, not a very good player, made quite a lot of mistakes, like keeping a wasteland on the table for a few turns, but the sheer brokenness of the deck almost gives him the win. Almost.
3rd round:
Rg Dryad Sligh. 1-1.
When i saw a Hierarch, i won. When i didn't, i lost. Blood Moon wrecks me, glad to at least have those Tuskers.
4th Round:
Pox. 1-2
It was not as brutal as i thought, winning G1, because he never remembered to bring back the Nether Spirit. Extra Discard after board didn't help, though.
5th round:
UGmadness. 2-0.
Deed + StP + hierarch = bad times for him.
Top4:
Rg Sligh. Damn, even IGGy would be better. I didn't see a hierarch in either of 2 games, despite heavy shuffling with fetches and top. Lost 0-2. Pox lost against IGGy in another table.
We thought that Iggy would win easily, but he miscounted his mana in both games, fell 1 mana short both games, and lost.
Anyways, i liked the deck, though it's bad that some random hispanic guy is the fault of this deck's underdevelopment and underplay.