Re: [Deck] UBGx Landstill
This past weekend was Legacy Champs in Columbus OhiOhio and I brought a UBGW Landstill list I brewed up. I finished with a 7-3 record good for 49th place out of almost 700 players. I felt I easily could have made the top 8 with a few changes and some tighter play. Here's the list I played and a quick run down on my rounds...
4c Landstill
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
1 Elspeth Knight Errant
1 Snapcaster Mage
4 Standstill
1 Crucible of Worlds
4 Brainstorm
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
3 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will
2 Counterspell
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Marsh Flats
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Tropical Island
2 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Plains
3 Mishras Factory
1 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Wasteland
SIDEBOARD
2 Vendillion Clique
3 Flusterstorm
3 Surgical Extraction
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Pithing Needle
1 Wasteland
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Dismember
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
Rd 1, 2-1 win vs Eldrazi
Rd 2, 1-2 loss vs UB Reanimator [misplay :-( ]
Rd 3, 2-1 win vs Infect
Rd 4, 2-0 win vs BUG Delver
Rd 5, 2-1 win vs Miracles [beating 3x b2b]
Rd 6, 2-0 win vs Belcher
Rd 7, 2-1 win vs BR Reanimator
Rd 8, 1-2 loss vs Sneak & Show [had dead to rights with only 2 Show 0 sneak left in deck, top decks show for loss]
Rd 9, 2-0 win vs Mud
Rd 10, 0-2 loss vs Eldrazi
Conclusion: I haven't played competitive legacy in about 5 years but am a lifelong landstill pilot. I will address the eldrazi matchup because every other matchup felt fine. I believe I will add 1 Containment Priest sb, drop down to 1 Dismember, and continue tweaking the deck. Overall I love love loved the deck. Safe to say, this guy will be back to the legacy scene and push the landatill archetype back to the top ;-) ...enjoy!
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That's awesome man. I was thinking about 4-Color Landstill just a couple weeks ago, Tales of Adventure was streaming some "2005 Era" Legacy decks and that go me thinking back to those old days, when I first started reading about Legacy. The two decks I would always pay attention to were 4-Color Landstill and Team America. It's neat to see that 4-Color is still somewhat viable. Goes to that old saying that Legacy decks are almost never dead, just sleeping. I played BUG Landstill for about a year in 2014 with decent results.
The only thing I see off the top of my head, is that Counterspell looks a little awkward with 9 Lands that don't make Blue. Mind you, Counterspell is awesome (literally top 3 favorite Magic card), but did you ever experience any issues with getting :u::u:?
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H
That's awesome man. I was thinking about 4-Color Landstill just a couple weeks ago, Tales of Adventure was streaming some "2005 Era" Legacy decks and that go me thinking back to those old days, when I first started reading about Legacy. The two decks I would always pay attention to were 4-Color Landstill and Team America. It's neat to see that 4-Color is still somewhat viable. Goes to that old saying that Legacy decks are almost never dead, just sleeping. I played BUG Landstill for about a year in 2014 with decent results.
The only thing I see off the top of my head, is that Counterspell looks a little awkward with 9 Lands that don't make Blue. Mind you, Counterspell is awesome (literally top 3 favorite Magic card), but did you ever experience any issues with getting :u::u:?
Well I didn't find Counterspell to be hard to cast mainly because Deathrite Shaman is a hell of a card. I don't have a ton of blue sources but I do have 8 fetch lands. Thank you, I can't wait to play more legacy. This was a direct inspiration from legacy years ago and it felt wonderfully!
Re: [Deck] UBGx Landstill
After some discussions about decklist and some tuning together with another very good legacy player in the Stockholm region (egg3t for those who frequent MTGO) I took the following deck list to a GPT for GP Chiba:
CREATURES (12)
4 Deathrite Shaman
4 Tarmogoyf
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Snapcaster Mage
ENCHANTMENTS (5)
4 Standstill
1 Sylvan Library
SORCERIES (1)
1 Life from the Loam
INSTANTS (19)
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Counterspell
2 Spell Snare
2 Dismember
1 Disfigure
LANDS (23)
4 Mishra’s Factory
2 Wasteland
1 Creeping Tar Pit
3 Polluted Delta
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Underground Sea
3 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
SIDEBOARD (15)
2 Toxic Deluge
2 Thoughtseize
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Spell Pierce
2 Baleful Strix
2 Ghost Quarter
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Disfigure
1 Pithing Needle
Won the whole tournament again, my matchups were:
ANT 2-1
Miracles 2-0
Stax 2-0
Double ID
Top 8: Infect 2-0
Top 4: BUG Food Chain 2-1
Finals: Infect 2-0
The deck is fantastic, the new Ghost Quarters in the board over performed and I warmly recommend it. I am now 21-4 with it over the past few events. Egg3t also streams it regularly on twitch.
If you have any questions send them my way and I will try to answer as best I can.
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Ghost Quarter has been great in every deck I've tried it in lately. Any reason for MD Loam over MD Crucible?
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It is much harder to interact with, so it gets the nod MD. For post board games I sometimes want another such effect, but then the first Crucible is better as they require different answers. :=)
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Some random thoughts:
-How has the manabase been without basics? Do you miss them in any MU:s?
-I'm at 8 fetch, 8 fetchable atm because I'm paranoid of running out of fetchables.
-I'm having a hard time letting go of MD Jace.
-GQ seems like a nice addition. Will have to test.
Anyway the deck seems sweet. Hope to get more games in with it.
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Thus list looks great!! I have to test this as I have all the cards but Crucible/GhQuarter.
When would you side in GhQ, is it just Wasteland 3-4 for nonbasic decks? Or for a very grindy play against decks with basics (Dnt, miracles).
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Fjaulnir
Thus list looks great!! I have to test this as I have all the cards but Crucible/GhQuarter.
When would you side in GhQ, is it just Wasteland 3-4 for nonbasic decks? Or for a very grindy play against decks with basics (Dnt, miracles).
It comes in against miracles as well, along with crucible. They only play about 3 red sources, and never more than 1 basic mountain, so you go after those first. That shuts down all rebs and wears, which means they cannot deal with crucible or fight your standstills. Then you go after all white sources and it's finished.
I would also bring them in against DnT yes.
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weaselface
Some random thoughts:
-How has the manabase been without basics? Do you miss them in any MU:s?
-I'm at 8 fetch, 8 fetchable atm because I'm paranoid of running out of fetchables.
-I'm having a hard time letting go of MD Jace.
-GQ seems like a nice addition. Will have to test.
Anyway the deck seems sweet. Hope to get more games in with it.
The manabase is pretty great, have had 0 issues with too few fetchable sources, but you could definitely swap a fetch for another dual (sea number 4) if you wish.
MD Jace just isn't good enough in legacy anymore outside miracles I feel. And against miracles (where he historically has been good) he just isn't as they are mostly predict + REB.dec post board, and tapping out main phase for a blue cmc-4 spell just isn't worth it. Try without is my recommendation, the deck draws tons of cards anyway :=)
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LarsLeif
It comes in against miracles as well, along with crucible. They only play about 3 red sources, and never more than 1 basic mountain, so you go after those first. That shuts down all rebs and wears, which means they cannot deal with crucible or fight your standstills.
And more importantly (equally important?), Blood Moon ;) (/from the ashes). That card is game over.
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Fjaulnir
And more importantly (equally important?), Blood Moon ;) (/from the ashes). That card is game over.
Definitely. Those cards are must counters until the red sources are gone.
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LarsLeif
Definitely. Those cards are must counters until the red sources are gone.
Would you cut 2 lands for the Ghost Quarters when boarding them in, or 1-2 spells? Cutting Wasteland against Miracles could be okay (I think?), but wouldnt do that spontaneously against DnT or Lands.
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Fjaulnir
Would you cut 2 lands for the Ghost Quarters when boarding them in, or 1-2 spells? Cutting Wasteland against Miracles could be okay (I think?), but wouldnt do that spontaneously against DnT or Lands.
I keep Wasteland, it's great at dealing with the volcanics and tundras (and other potential non-basics).
The sideboard plan against Miracles (mentor version, always adapt) right now is -4 Goyf -3 DRS -2 Dismember -1 Disfigure +2 Deluge +2 Seize +2 Pierce +2 GQ + 1 Crucible +1 Needle. If they have a lot of cliques then Strix is good too.
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Updating the list a little to hopefully make it slightly better against delver decks. 4 Strixes in the 75 instead of 2 should help increase the win% against those decks while still maintaining the good matchups. Updated list:
CREATURES (12)
4 Deathrite Shaman
3 Tarmogoyf
2 Baleful Strix
2 Snapcaster Mage
1 Vendilion Clique
ENCHANTMENTS (5)
4 Standstill
1 Sylvan Library
SORCERIES (1)
1 Life from the Loam
INSTANTS (19)
4 Force of Will
4 Brainstorm
4 Abrupt Decay
2 Counterspell
2 Spell Snare
2 Dismember
1 Disfigure
LANDS (23)
4 Mishra’s Factory
2 Wasteland
1 Creeping Tar Pit
3 Polluted Delta
3 Misty Rainforest
3 Verdant Catacombs
3 Underground Sea
3 Tropical Island
1 Bayou
SIDEBOARD (15)
2 Toxic Deluge
2 Thoughtseize
2 Surgical Extraction
2 Spell Pierce
2 Ghost Quarter
2 Baleful Strix
1 Disfigure
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Pithing Needle
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Yesterday I won legacy at MVP games! Bringing home a Time Vault! Thanks Terrance Calvin Hodges and BMG for a kickass event. It was 25ish people.
4c Landstill
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
1 Elspeth Knight Errant
1 Snapcaster Mage
4 Standstill
1 Crucible of Worlds
4 Brainstorm
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
3 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will
2 Counterspell
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Marsh Flats
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Tropical Island
2 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Plains
3 Mishras Factory
1 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Wasteland
SIDEBOARD
2 Vendillion Clique
3 Flusterstorm
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Containment Priest
2 Abrupt Decay
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Pithing Needle
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 Wasteland
Rd 1 0-2 delver
Rd 2 2-1 belcher
Rd 3 2-1 death blade
Rd 4 1-1-1 death blade
Rd 5 2-0 miracles
T8 2-1 delver
T4 2-0 storm
Finals 2-0 miracles (beating a resolved back to basics and ruination in game 2)
Today the cards were good. I needed to run this deck back after a great showing at champs!
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So I've been working on various deks with Leovold, wanted to know if anyone's tried him in landstill. Some one did really well in Vintage with LeoStill and I was wondering if I could port it to Legacy.
EDIT: Was it you landstillmaniac?
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I have as well as Lars Leif here on this thread. I tried a CB approach to mediocre success, however clunky the build, while Lars is having seemingly solid success with a more tempo feel.
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landstillmaniac
Yesterday I won legacy at MVP games!
Congrats for your result! I've tested your list with a little changes (-1 caster +1 humility in main and different sideboard) with good results, too much fun playing this deck.
4 Deathrite Shaman
2 Jace the Mind Sculptor
1 Elspeth Knight Errant
4 Standstill
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Humility
4 Brainstorm
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pernicious Deed
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Dismember
3 Swords to Plowshares
4 Force of Will
2 Counterspell
2 Spell Pierce
2 Spell Snare
4 Flooded Strand
3 Polluted Delta
1 Marsh Flats
1 Savannah
1 Scrubland
1 Tropical Island
2 Tundra
2 Underground Sea
1 Swamp
1 Island
1 Plains
3 Mishras Factory
1 Creeping Tar Pit
2 Wasteland
SIDEBOARD
2 Vendillion Clique
2 Flusterstorm
3 Surgical Extraction
1 Virtue's Ruin
2 Containment Priest
1 Abrupt Decay
1 Swords to Plowshares
1 Pithing Needle
1 Gideon, Ally of Zendikar
1 Null Rod
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Hey, kind of new to UBGx Landstill. Got kind of bored with Shardless, and decided to try this out. Basically tried to make a BUG version of Lam Phan's UR list, and this is what i've come up with. Thoughts?
3 Snapcaster Mage
2 Thoughtseize
4 Stifle
4 Brainstorm
2 Disfigure
1 Counterspell
4 Abrupt Decay
4 Force of Will
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Toxic Deluge
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Pernicious Deed
3 Standstill
2 JTMS
2 LotV
4 Mishra's Factory
4 Wateland
1 Fairy Conclave (running this over tarpit b/c of delver)
1 Bayou
2 Trop Island
3 Underground Sea
1 Forest
1 Swamp
1 Island
3 Polluted Delta
2 Verdant Catacomb
1 Misty Rainforest
Sideboard
2 Grafdigger's Cage
1 Dread of Night
1 Pithing Needle
1 Life from the Loam
1 Null Rod
1 Golgari Charm
1 Crucible of Worlds
1 Vendilion Clique
2 Leovold, Emissary of Trest
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Mindbreak Trap
2 Nissa, Vital Force