4 Card Blind

ROUND 4 of SEASON 6: DEVIANT LEGACY has started.

This round we will play Russian Life Poker
Each player submits a life total between 1 and 30 with their deck, in each match the player with the lowest bid for life total is on the play in both games, if players submitted the same bid, the match is played out normally with both players one game on the play.
No additional bannings. Also no new bannings for the main list. I want to see how things proceed first.

I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 4, so you can start sending me your decks.

EDIT: NEW DEADLINE: Thursday the 30th of April, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Wednesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)

PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Mountain, Goblin Guide, Mogg Fanatic, Lightning Bolt, life bid: 7.
So with card tags around each card, and not above eachother, and with your Username and 4CB S06R04 in the topic, and don't forget to add your bid for starting life total.
Don't forget to keep an eye on the banned list. You'll find it in the second post of the thread, or in our Google Spreadsheet.

After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.

Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition. :smile:

Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:

This new round certainly seems like one of the more interesting metagame puzzles.

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Originally Posted by alphastryk

This new round certainly seems like one of the more interesting metagame puzzles.

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I'm personnally playing 4 gut shots with a 0 life bet.
It could win some games :)

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Originally Posted by Tylert

I'm personnally playing 4 gut shots with a 0 life bet.
It could win some games :)

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That would lose every game. Luckily for you, 0 life is an invalid bid.

Not to mention the fact that Gut Shot costs life to play for free. :wink:

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

Not to mention the fact that Gut Shot costs life to play for free. :wink:

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I saw it the wrong way. 4 gut shots with 20 life bet

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Originally Posted by Tylert

I saw it the wrong way. 4 gut shots with 20 life bet

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I Mental Misstep your Gut Shot

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Originally Posted by FTW

I Mental Misstep your Gut Shot

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Which would be illegal. :wink:

But you guys are right, it's a really tough round.
And the fact that I'm at just 2 entries the day before the deadline supports that fact.
Should I move the deadline a day?

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

Which would be illegal. :wink:

But you guys are right, it's a really tough round.
And the fact that I'm at just 2 entries the day before the deadline supports that fact.
Should I move the deadline a day?

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Also it's paying 2 life to prevent 1 damage....

Sure, a deadline move might help.

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Originally Posted by FTW

Also it's paying 2 life to prevent 1 damage....

Sure, a deadline move might help.

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LOL yeah. That's rather silly as well. :tongue:

But okay, let's move the deadline a day.

NEW DEADLINE: THURDSAY the 30th of April, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Wednesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)


(EDIT: I have also already created my deck for round 5, so we can speed up and have our deadline for round 5 on our usual Wednesday again.)

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

And the fact that I'm at just 2 entries the day before the deadline supports that fact.
Should I move the deadline a day?

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I've been pondering this since I submitted my last deck. This time I have five or six ideas, but they all seem to rock-paper-scissors each other and I have no idea what is "objectively" powerful. I'm waiting for last minute inspiration to force a decision.

Why do starting life totals go up to 30? Shouldn't the starting bid be 1-20? I assumed that losing the bid means you start at the usual 20 life. What happens if two people bid 24 and 25?

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Originally Posted by silkster

I've been pondering this since I submitted my last deck. This time I have five or six ideas, but they all seem to rock-paper-scissors each other and I have no idea what is "objectively" powerful. I'm waiting for last minute inspiration to force a decision.

Why do starting life totals go up to 30? Shouldn't the starting bid be 1-20? I assumed that losing the bid means you start at the usual 20 life. What happens if two people bid 24 and 25?

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If one bids 24 and the other bids 25, the person with 24 starts both games on the play.
I went to 30 because I wanted to give the oppoertunity to start at higher than 20.
Maybe that was wrong, but we'll see.

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

If one bids 24 and the other bids 25, the person with 24 starts both games on the play.
I went to 30 because I wanted to give the oppoertunity to start at higher than 20.
Maybe that was wrong, but we'll see.

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In your case, the lowest bidder will start both games and will be at 24 life, what about the other one? he starts at 30 or 25?

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Originally Posted by Tylert

In your case, the lowest bidder will start both games and will be at 24 life, what about the other one? he starts at 30 or 25?

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25 life, just like his bid.

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Originally Posted by silkster

I've been pondering this since I submitted my last deck. This time I have five or six ideas, but they all seem to rock-paper-scissors each other and I have no idea what is "objectively" powerful. I'm waiting for last minute inspiration to force a decision.
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All of the ideas I have feel very rock paper scissors as well, and I don't know whether to play what seemed like the most "obvious" deck to me, or play the deck that beats that assuming others will play that deck. Lots to consider, and I've changed decks a few times already, probably driving Asthereal crazy haha.

I think I'll share some of my other brews after the round.

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Originally Posted by alphastryk

All of the ideas I have feel very rock paper scissors as well, and I don't know whether to play what seemed like the most "obvious" deck to me, or play the deck that beats that assuming others will play that deck. Lots to consider, and I've changed decks a few times already, probably driving Asthereal crazy haha.

I think I'll share some of my other brews after the round.

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You're filling up my inbox rapidly, that's for sure. :wink:

It's a tough round, and my not very well thought out entry is going to get creamed for sure.
But you know what? That's why we play 12 rounds instead of one. Plenty chance to claw back.

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

You're filling up my inbox rapidly, that's for sure. :wink:

It's a tough round, and my not very well thought out entry is going to get creamed for sure.
But you know what? That's why we play 12 rounds instead of one. Plenty chance to claw back.

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Haven't send anything yet. will do it tomorrow morning normally

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

25 life, just like his bid.

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I did not even consider this a possibility. The only thing that made sense to me was that the bidder starting at the winning amount and the other player started at 20. When two people bid in an auction, the loser doesn't pay.

If two people both bid 15, I assumed they would both start at 20, because that's normal. But you're saying they start at 15? Ah well, I don't think it would have changed much.

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Originally Posted by silkster

I did not even consider this a possibility. The only thing that made sense to me was that the bidder starting at the winning amount and the other player started at 20. When two people bid in an auction, the loser doesn't pay.

If two people both bid 15, I assumed they would both start at 20, because that's normal. But you're saying they start at 15? Ah well, I don't think it would have changed much.

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Yup, you just start at the life you bid every game.
In an auction, you'd be right: you lose, you don't pay.
In Russian Roulette, however... :wink:

(Or Poker, for that matter.)

Anyway, about 90 minutes until the deadline, we're at 7 entries.
Not bad, but I'm missing two regulars. Don't be late!

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

Yup, you just start at the life you bid every game.
In an auction, you'd be right: you lose, you don't pay.
In Russian Roulette, however... :wink:

(Or Poker, for that matter.)

Anyway, about 90 minutes until the deadline, we're at 7 entries.
Not bad, but I'm missing two regulars. Don't be late!

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Did you receive my (Bad) deck?