Let's hope it will be as you say. But i fear it'll go in the sideboard, maybe replacing Disrupt..Quote:
Originally Posted by georgjorge
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Let's hope it will be as you say. But i fear it'll go in the sideboard, maybe replacing Disrupt..Quote:
Originally Posted by georgjorge
Could become SB material in UGr or Solidarity (like it matters) in place of disrupt. I don't see an eccessive difference. It's sure worse than Spell Snare so it's not MD stuff.
EDIT: ninjaed by Piceli89!
I don't think it's a huge issue, it doesn't seem MDable, at which point it's competing for either Disrupt or Blue Elemental Blast. It's a really solid counter tho', I bet it sees a lot of play in Vintage, Extended and Standard or maybe it replaces Stifle in tempo aggro-control decks like UGR or goes into Kurtis Zoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piceli89
Apparently Bryant won at vestal today, I so wish I could of been there but I had to work.
I demand a report and a new list and stuff.
Obv. congrats and all but really, I just want the report..
I play Tempo Thresh and I doubt I will replace anything with it in the main. Spell Snare is obviously better due to opposing Goyfs and Confidants being more of a must counter than random instants and such. I will give it a shot in the board though. Disrupt has been a fav for a long time, but I have to admit, being able to hit an artifact is nice. As an added benefit, it will be nice to board in against people who attempt to play around Daze.Quote:
Originally Posted by Piceli89
I'd expect it soon. I know I'll use it.
Can TES possibly break entomb somehow?
With IGG, you might turn Entomb into a Demonic Tutor...Quote:
Originally Posted by EaD
But hadn't the IGG plan been dismissed recently ?!
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Originally Posted by EaD
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Originally Posted by lolosoon
I was thinking about building this, is there anything you would change after playing in vestal?
I loved the maindeck all day Saturday. However, the sideboard I feel needs some work. It looks like this currently...Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBirdMan
SB:1 Diminishing Returns
SB:1 Ill-Gotten Gains
SB:1 Tendrils of Agony
SB:1 Empty the Warrens
SB:1 Grapeshot
SB:1 Duress
SB:3 Pyroblast
SB:1 Infernal Tutor
SB:1 Echoing Truth
SB:1 Krosan Grip
SB:2 Shattering Spree
SB:1 Hurkyl's Recall
I cut a Pyroblast to make room for the sideboard Infernal Tutor. However, I don't think I want to go back to Pyroblast. If I need the fourth Pyroblast back the only card I see leaving is Krosan Grip. I'm thinking I want to cut Infernal and Hurkyl's Recall for two Deathmark. With the rise of aggro and Gaddeck Teeg, I think it's about time for them.
I like deathmark, thats a good idea.
Wouldn't that lower your threat density too much?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
Infernal Tutor in the side is sometimes the only way to win (by fetching Ad Nauseum)
I have a question for those playing the deck right now. I've been looking at building it, since I enjoy playing storm decks in vintage, and figure it must be just as fun in legacy. However, I don't understand why there is a 3/1 split of Orim's Chant vs. Silence. Isn't Chant just better? Or is this for Cabal Therapy protection? I'm just curious as to what the reasoning behind this choice is.
2/2 for Meddling MageQuote:
Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION
Meddling Mage, Divert, Misdirection, Cabal Therapy, Runed Halo, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION
Japanese Foil Silence is cheaper than Orims Chant.Quote:
Originally Posted by hungryLIKEALION
The split is in there simply because Chant is better, but cards like Meddling Mage, Cabal Therapy, and even Divert exist
I'd still wait to cut the Hurkyl's Recall from the sideboard. With the unban of Metalworker, people will be tempted to build a deck around it, and this is already in progress. If MonoBrown Stax ala MUD becomes to spread, it'll be another painful MU for this deck. Played against it, and TES sucked horribly betweem all Wastelands, Spheres and Chalices. At that point you would only have 2 Sprees, a Truth and a Grip to fight them. But i can ensure you that all these solutions are meh, especially Shattering Spree, which would really be too slow against Trinisphere, Chalice AND Sphere of Resistance (likely to be Sb if not Maindeck in that new build). HRecall is still the best solution for artifact hate. If you want to cut something, cut the 2nd spree or the infernal (which is a bad change IMO because it enables crazy-IGG-"Wish to Nauseam" chains, but well, do what you want) and use that slot for Deathmark.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
My sb is currently:
1 diminishing returns
1 grapeshot
1 tendrils of agony
1 empty the warrens
1 deathmark
1 hurkyl's recall
2 shattering spree
2 pyroblast
1 ill-gotten gains
1 infernal tutor
1 silence
1 duress
1 krosan grip
I really like the deathmark and I'd add another if there was room but I just don't see it. I cut the third pyroblast for a silence as it's better against all of our blue matchups except counterbalance and as there is a rise in aggro I think we'll start facing the mirror as well as ddft and ant more often in which it can be whoever draws more chants/silences wins.
I'd like to cut ETW but it is so good on the play against dragon stompy and some other random jank in what is otherwise a almost unwinnable match.