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Testing a new list, improving consistency by more then 4 of a given effect. :confused:
6 anti-attack
5 upkeepers
Smokestack and Suppresion field
Seems to be doing okay.
3 Lodestone Golem
2 Magus of the Tabernacle
4 Armageddon
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Ghostly Prison
4 Mox Diamond
3 Pendrell Mists
3 Propaganda
3 Smokestack
3 Suppression Field
3 Trinisphere
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Island
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Plains
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
You´re running more white manasources than blue ones, so the 3/3-split between Ghostly Prison and Propaganda absolutely makes no sense. I´ve played Pendrell Mists in U-Stax already and think that Magus of the Tabernacle is still superior although he is a creature, but I´m going to test them again as I´ve never played WU-Stax before. Last but not least you´re missing Chalice of the Void, which is like a cardinal sin^^.Quote:
Originally Posted by Q-Ball
Greetz, K1LO
Chalice becomes sideboard for a few matchups, but there are plenty right now that if your playing second that Goyf goes through.
chalice is mainly set at 0 or 1 , I rarely set chalice at 2 unless it is late game.
Right but chalice is proactive. Zoo is the thing to beat right now I feel, as well as fish and goblins.
Chalice is great, but chalice doesn't do a huge amount against them. It helps, but I'd rather have a first turn suppresion field.
Chalice does everything against them! Their best hand against you is 1-drop, followed by turn 2, 2 1-drops. They kill quickly. Not only that, but it shuts off lightning bolt, chain lightning, and path to exile, which would be targeting your Magus, most likely.
Against Zoo
Chalice of the Void and Suppression Field are big bombs to them and totally shuts them down. Like what i've said suppression fields are excellent in the current meta. Against zoo i sideout smoketacks and side in my 4th suppression field and several oblivion rings.
And suppresion means they won't get access to their mana, with trini making those one drops three times harder to hit.
I agree, Chalice is amazing.
However, in the zoo matchup I'd rather bring them in as additional hate from sideboard. I want to win the zoo/aggro game one.
And so far start suppresion, then a propaganda affect, has been amazing with waiting a turn for board commitment to geddon out.
I'd really like a fourth Trini, but I'd rather not drop stax. If I do it's for even more propaganda effects or armageddon effects.Quote:
3 Lodestone Golem
2 Magus of the Tabernacle
4 Armageddon
4 Crucible of Worlds
3 Ghostly Prison
4 Mox Diamond
3 Pendrell Mists
3 Propaganda
3 Smokestack
3 Suppression Field
3 Trinisphere
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
4 Flagstones of Trokair
2 Island
3 Mishra's Factory
2 Plains
4 Tundra
3 Wasteland
I'll playtest with the chalices back in. Maybe the extra support is worth it. My problem with chalice is simple. It stops head bolts, sure. But half the time it doesn't stop a goyf, and it won't stop a goyf on the table. Propaganda and pendrell effects do though. And do it well. Sometimes they have the mana to pay for upkeep, then not to attack. Especially with two on the table.
Trini can take care of the burn.
I'm also dropping a plains for an island, and another for a karibra crossroads.
Cataclysm could be a very good replacement for smokestack and it's even synergic with the deck. Suppose the following:Quote:
Originally Posted by thebadmagicplayer
We have a magus, a prison and a crucible. If cataclysm resolves we keep this cards and our opponent will use the unique land to keep his critter and also he won't can attack for a couple of turns while we restore our mana base via crucible.
The problem with clysm is it WW cost. However it can be really solved.
I haven't read the 106 pages of posts but would Fabricate solve any issues? You could lower your trini, stack, etc count and throw in several fabricates for situational use. Your chalice is not set to three and it is unhampered by trini.
If you're playing fabricate then you need to play blue. It seems like an awesome tutor card and all since its 3 mana therefore not getting in our way with chalices and trinisphere, but the list is already tight as it is. :(
You have to start balancing it then. Sure, it would be good. Sure you could reduce your 4 of's. But it still costs you 3 mana. And it doesn't get enchantments.
Fabricate usually Time Walks you as well, which is something Stax can rarely afford to do.
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Originally Posted by Misplayer
you are right about fabricate, Etutor seems better but you guys seem to chalice at 1 quite often so that seems to be a no go as well.
I'm pretty sure Transmute Artifact is THE BEST tutor anyone could ever hope for.
The main problem with Transmute being that it costs UU, something this deck cannot afford. Transmute artifact is indeed strong, but we need something else..
Has anyone played around with the Burning Wish idea at all?
Sorry but i'd like to discuss about brown stax, is this the topic??
mostly brown but we mix in some whiteys to destroy everyone's land.
I've tested the suppresion fields main deck and I seem to like it a lot. I don't miss the -1 smokestacks too much since I don't ever need to play it so far. I actually use smokestacks for luring the opponent into countering it then play something else :) So 3 MD suppression field is what I am gonna go for at the moment even though I have 2 Kotrs :rolleyes: