[Deck] Turbo Depths

Hey, I have tested a lot with bliving wish, because of the great SB 1off options. I'm playing the "normal" turbo build atm.
The "blue" field is packing surgicals right now, but is living wish the answer?
I feel its clucky every time, basically you trade speed vs versatillity. But with no real carddraw(only lib) and no manipulation at all, is it worth it? So many times i drew "naturally" the missing combopiece, or a tutor for the missing one, its the decks design. Do we have to change the deck because of some "SB" tec?
My opinion is the following: I like living wish and what its doing to the deck, but if we have to change the deck because of surgical in SB, how about 4 living wish and Rec Sage as SB tec. sure it cutts off 5 slots that very are viable, but it could be worth the test.

Edit: I like living wish, maybe I'll try it onlie a little.

Hey all! First time poster on the thread! I played in the SCG Open yesterday and had a kinda wild ride.

I lost round one, ran off five wins, and then managed to lose the last three to not make day two at 5-4.

It was my first actual play with the deck (outside of playtesting), so being right at the cusp of day two was amazing, if not a little bittersweet! I've never gotten more than two wins at an event, and even managed to snag an off camera feature match in round 7 (the start of my losing streak, haha).

List I played is below. The sideboard is definitely a little rough, but I'm happy I played this version over the Living Wish version because I enjoyed having all 4 copies of the combo pieces available to draw into.

Land (23) 1x Bayou 1x Bojuka Bog 4x Dark Depths 1x Ghost Quarter 1x Llanowar Wastes 1x Overgrown Tomb 2x Polluted Delta 1x Sejiri Steppe 1x Snow-Covered Forest 1x Snow-Covered Swamp 4x Thespian's Stage 3x Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth 2x Windswept Heath

Sorcery (16) 4x Cabal Therapy 3x Duress 2x Gitaxian Probe 3x Into the North 4x Sylvan Scrying

Creature (9) 4x Elvish Spirit Guide 1x Sylvan Safekeeper 4x Vampire Hexmage Artifact (7) 4x Lotus Petal 3x Pithing Needle Enchantment (1) 1x Sylvan Library Instant (4) 4x Crop Rotation

Sideboard (15) 4x Abrupt Decay 1x Faerie Macabre 1x Karakas 3x Mindbreak Trap 1x Pithing Needle 1x Sphere of Resistance 1x Sylvan Library 2x Sylvan Safekeeper 1x Toxic Deluge

In other news, DnT felt REAL rough.

So I'm currently playing at a card shop were only 2 or 3 people (myself included) own their legacy decks. The owner of the store has like 13 decks built that he loans out for the weekly events. So there's at least one of the following decks every event. I'm currently on a discard heavy version of B/G Depths, I think it's fairly well positioned for this metagame (except for D&T) but I was wanting some input about whether that's actually the case and what people's thoughts on sideboard cards should be given this metagame.

Sneak and Show (With Omniscience)
Storm (ANT)
Dredge
Burn
Elves
Death and Taxes
RUG Delver
BR Reanimator (with 4 Blood Moon in the 75)
Grixis Delver
Lands
Eldrazi
Shardless BUG
New Miracles (Not yet but store owner's almost finished building it for people to borrow)

My decklist is currently

Lands:
4 Dark Depths
4 Thespian's Stage
3 Blooming Marsh
3 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth
2 Verdant Catacombs
2 Bayou
1 Swamp
1 Forest
1 Sejiri Steppe
1 Maze of Ith
1 Bojuka Bog
1 Ghost Quarter

Non Lands:
4 Duress
4 Inquisition of Kozilek
4 Crop Rotation
4 Sylvan Scrying
4 Pithing Needle
4 Vampire Hexmage
3 Gitaxian Probe
3 Thoughtseize
3 Sylvan Safekeeper
2 Toxic Deluge
1 Expedition Map

Sideboard:

3 Surgical Extraction
3 Sphere of Resistance
2 Dread of Night
2 Ratchet Bomb
2 Rite of Consumption
1 Golgari Charm
1 Karakas
1 Krosan Grip

Don't metagame. It will make you a worse legacy player.

Depths itself is so inherently adaptable and consistent that it really doesn't matter what metagame you play in if you play tightly in your bad matchups. See the D+T vs Dark Depths matchup on SCG yesterday - D+T punts and loses G2, then makes some suboptimal plays to lose G3.

Edit: Why are you not playing fast mana? Any particular reason?

It's probably not correct but I wanted more disruption because I wanted more interaction against faster combo decks and also worse matchups. I was having a lot of trouble against ANT/TES and BR Reanimator so I cut the fast mana for more discard and it's made my matchups there a lot better. It's also the reason for the 3 sphere of resistance and 3 surgicals in the board. I figured it was weighing a potentially faster kill versus the ability to have more information and be able to fight through hate/faster combo more and I went with the latter.

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Originally Posted by ThatDeleuzeGuy

It's probably not correct but I wanted more disruption because I wanted more interaction against faster combo decks and also worse matchups. I was having a lot of trouble against ANT/TES and BR Reanimator so I cut the fast mana for more discard and it's made my matchups there a lot better. It's also the reason for the 3 sphere of resistance and 3 surgicals in the board. I figured it was weighing a potentially faster kill versus the ability to have more information and be able to fight through hate/faster combo more and I went with the latter.

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BR Reanimator is very favorable on my end with 8 discard, 4 Crop Rot -> Bojuka Bog, and 2 Surgicals postboard. Storm is tougher, so I play 4 Mindbreak Trap postboard.

Another tournament starting with 8-1 and doing terribly on day 2. Went to 10-4 and ID'ed round 15 into Top 32 at the Open. Mostly standard maindeck, awful sidedeck because I forgot to pack more cards after I decided to ignore the storm hate. I'd write a short report if people want, but it's a standard list and we all know how it works by now. Lost to Sneak & Show, BUG Delver, Stax, and the Miracles dude who ended up getting DQ'ed.

Surprisingly enough, I dodged Delver for the first 10 rounds and played no 4C Control decks, much to my sadness.

Ended up Top 4ing the CFB 4k Today with the list I posted.

Beat BantBlade, Goblins, 3x BUG Delver in the Swiss. Beat ANT in the top 8 after someone No sirred a 400$ split.


Top 8 was 2 Turbo Depths, 1 Lands, 1 Maverick, 2 ANT, 1 BUG Delver, Eldrazi Taxes. Lot of BUG Delver, Depths, and DNT today.

Good works guys. Won a legacy side event after 0-3 flaming out of Day 2 at GP Hong Kong. Standard list you guys all know and love.

Two thoughts

1. Dark Confidant vs Sylvan out of the board -> Haven't tested bob, but some of you guys seem to like it
2. 2x GSZ + 1 Safekeeper vs 3x safekeeper - > seems like it would give out deck some additional g2/g3 toolbox options including a tutorable arbor.

I've been liking 2 Safekeeper 1 Library main, 1 Safekeeper 1 additional Library side.

This deck is a Sylvan tribal deck, you know.

I've been on the same 60 mb for the past 3/4 months or so and I've been very happy with the deck.

My overall record at Channel Fireball's Monthly Tournaments have been a combined 17-4-2 with the SB near identical each time with +/- maybe 3 cards.

I don't see myself changing it up in the near future unless something really busted gets printed.

Since all of us have been playing basically the same 70/75 for the past year, is it time we finally create a google doc for sideboarding +/-?

I've been playing delver and miracles for most of this year, but I think TD is just better positioned

I think it's pretty much the following

3-4 decay
3-4 storm/fast combo hate piece
2-3 surgical extraction
1 karakas
1 edict dodger
4th needle

Fill out the rest with grind or more hate depending n meta

My build is

3 decay
3 surgical
1 library
1 karakas
1 needle
4 sphere
1 factory
1 k-grip

I use:

4 Abrupt Decay
2 Sphere of Resistance
1 Karakas
2 Rite of Consumption
1 Boseiju, Who Shelters All
2 Sylvan Library
1 Pithing Needle
2 Surgical Extraction

and I have 1 library main. Wish to play 3 or 4 sphere's, but the Rite package and the libraries are really good for our worst matchups.

I'm missing the edict dodger, but I see Sylvan Safekeeper as the same purpose (although not crop rotatable)

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Originally Posted by funnywille

Another tournament starting with 8-1 and doing terribly on day 2. Went to 10-4 and ID'ed round 15 into Top 32 at the Open. Mostly standard maindeck, awful sidedeck because I forgot to pack more cards after I decided to ignore the storm hate. I'd write a short report if people want, but it's a standard list and we all know how it works by now. Lost to Sneak & Show, BUG Delver, Stax, and the Miracles dude who ended up getting DQ'ed.

Surprisingly enough, I dodged Delver for the first 10 rounds and played no 4C Control decks, much to my sadness.

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Who got DQed?

Daniel Miller, who was playing U/W Miracles. He was 9-0 at the end of Day 1, and he was DQ'd in the last round of Day 2 due to discussing a prize split with his opponent when their match went to time; I don't know the specifics of what was said, but I think he may have just chosen the wrong words and a judge was within earshot, so that was that. I heard him discussing this with a mutual friend after the DQ, and it certainly didn't sound like he was trying to bribe his opponent, but the rule doesn't allow for a lot of wiggle room, :-(.

There was also a DQ at the CFB 4k event due to a prize split in the last round :/

Makes it super tricky to do any splitting

Hey there folks,

Is there any reason to not to play Glacial Chasm in the SB? I find myself sometimes losing matches I could win if I had some way to protect my life total for just one turn (opponent attacking with a swarm of creatures vs. my only Marit Lage, Burn bolting me to death, etc).

EDIT to ask another question to the fellows that play Sphere of Resistance in the SB: Why not Thorn of Amethyst instead? It will hose Storm the same, but it will not affect our Hexmages/Safekeepers IMO.

You need sphere against combo decks like elves