As opposed to the V. Clique in an SCG 1st place list?Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
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As opposed to the V. Clique in an SCG 1st place list?Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
http://sales.starcitygames.com//deck...p?DeckID=33305
Agree, especially there are two falling dudes and the card creates two 2/2s.Quote:
Originally Posted by ThoseWhoFearTomorrow
Anyone else notice something strange about this cycle? 6 mana 6/6s... OMG, 666!
I forgot that some people still think it's better than the 3rd Terravore.Quote:
Originally Posted by mchainmail
Is it just me, or is that lich dude playable with Darksteel Citadel
Darksteel produces :1:, the Lich costs :b::b::b:, so not really unless you ritual it out or have an Urborg in play.Quote:
Originally Posted by sporenfrosch1411
The Lich seems kinda cool, although I would have prefered a manacost of :2::b: for better synergy with the 2-mana lands. Indestructible is decent, but not worth that much in a format where StP or sacrifice effects are common and Qasali is everywhere.
The better question is what deck runs enough artifacts and can support :b::b::b:.
Its probably just you.Quote:
Originally Posted by sporenfrosch1411
SI plays 4 Petal, 4 LED, 4 Chrome Mox, while some builds also play 8 tallmen, not including artifacts post-board. Its hella playable in the board.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Scars of Mirrodin could also add some nice, black-colored artifacts to support it in other decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacrix
While Spanish Inquisition can indeed accomodate the card, I think that people want a deck that can actaully abuse the card, not just include it. That was the intent of my earlier comment about no decks being able to run it to its maximum potential. Besides, the SI artifacts, with the exception of Chrome Mox, are not the best phylactery options for our lich. Petal and LED were made to be broken. Sphere and Walker are both creatures that scream "Swords/Path me for some 2-1 card advantage!" Walker has the added problem of being burnable by Bolt, Chain Lightning, and Gempalm. Chrome Mox is admittedly a great choice for a Phylactery counter, but I am sure that a better deck exists that can use the Lich (or at least, a better deck can exist). This is not at all to detract from SI as a deck, or SI as a deck that can use, and even benefit from, the Lich. I am simply suggesting that there might be better, unbuilt options out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vacrix
Some of the top Phylactery options are below:
-Chrome Mox
-Pithing Needle
-Thopter Foundry
-Grindstone
-Aether Vial
I have probably missed a few, but those are the ones that immediately come to mind. All of them fit a few criteria that make an artifact a good phylactery:
1) Costs less than 3: You want the phylactery out before the Lich.
2) Nonland: Wasteland vulnerabilitiy is just too dangerous, with the sole exception of Darksteel Citadel which, as noted, does not provide black mana, and is therefore not as good.
3) Noncreature: Maindecked artifact removal is quite rare in this format. Maindecked creature removal, on the other hand, is not.
4) "Good" cards: All of these artifacts are good on their own. No one would be disappointed to draw one of these cards without also drawing Lich. That gives the deck versatility and consistency.
-ktkenshinx-
Qasali Pridemage. Plus, everyone has Krosan Grip in their board.Quote:
Originally Posted by ktkenshinx
What about Darksteel Ingot? You can have a deck with Ingots, Moxes, Citadels, and Urborgs, giving you plenty of acceleration to hit Lich on turn 3 (or earlier).
T1 - Swamp, Ritual, Ingot
T2 - Swamp, Lich
I like running bad cards in my deck just to have a decent synergy with a vanilla beater.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
I like phylactery lich I'm thinking it has some potential for a sui black comeback :D
Lands - 22
4x Wastelands
4x Darksteel Citadel
4x Fetchlands
3x Urborg tomb of yawgmoth
7x Swamp
Creatures - 12
4x Tombstalker
4x Gatekeeper of malikar
4x phylactery lich
Spells- 24
4x Sinkhole
4x Hymn To tourach
4x Inquisition
4x Smother
4x Phyrexian Arena
4x Chrome Mox
2x Dark Ritual
Run March of the Machines and Obliterate and you've got a modest long game. Plus now we've got Grim Monolith so we can Obliterate even faster. Willing to bet it's not any good in serious Legacy, but that deck was a blast in Standard (doubly so when I could get away with throwing a couple Rukh Egg in it).Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
Pithing Needles were maindecked as a 3-of for some time in Eva Green and then in some Mono-black builds emulating the Eva Green shell. Maindeck Pithing Needles, Chrome Mox, and some other useful, relevant artifact would probably give us enough Lich targets while not dilluting the deck down to fit Lich.
I repeatedly mentioned Pridemage as a reason to run Needle/Lich in a deck. Besides, only Zoo runs the cat, and Needle--> Pridemage is a strong play even if you don't have a Lich around. As to Grip, that's fine with me. You can board out your liches and board in something else. You can also use Duress/Thoughtseize to remove the Grip in the early turns before it becomes a problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
Ingot is a bad card. Good decks do not use bad cards.
As I stated, Mox and Needle remain the best two choices for your Phylactery (although other options are still out there). Pridemage does not detract from the combo, and a game 2/3 Grip does not either.Quote:
Pithing Needles were maindecked as a 3-of for some time in Eva Green and then in some Mono-black builds emulating the Eva Green shell. Maindeck Pithing Needles, Chrome Mox, and some other useful, relevant artifact would probably give us enough Lich targets while not dilluting the deck down to fit Lich.
-ktkenshinx-
Demon of Death's Gate + Sengir Autocrat...more like Sengir AutoWIN!
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attac...1&d=1277916836
Not sure if you can see the card. Text is:
Temple Bell 3
Artifact
T: each player draw a card
This is the replacement for Howling Mine. Aah, so beautiful of a design. Where before was a complicated card with little choices, now there's a super-simple card that involve a lot of choices when using it. May be or not be playable, but things like those make me happy as a maniac of design.
EDIT: ah, 2 card combo with Mind over matter that autowin. Draw 50 cards then play something uncounterable for 40+ and gg. Or even a single brainfreeze.
so.. wait, its a worse Howling Mine? Win. Also, wasn't this card already printed, but better when it was called Mikokoro, Center of the Sea?
Nice catch on MoM combo.
Nice catch. Any ideas how to utilize this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gheizen64
Nice catch on the "2, Tap" part on Mikokoro.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke