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Don't forget, last week they eliminated Bo3 (Best of three matches w/sideboard) from the client, then realized they had to put it back in because that's literally what MtG is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Oh, and the client is still occasionally wiping hard drives if you try to uninstall it.
That whole debacle was funny, not only because it's something WOTC will add back in later anyways (so whats the point in removing it) but the player base is so casual that I question why they even gave a shit.
So yesterday, WotC had a bunch of cryptic 9.19 statements on their Arena account on Twitter.
Crickets on the forums about whatever it is so far. I'll let ya'll know if it turns out to be anything or they're just being their usual cocked up selves.
EDIT: Here's a link to the official announcement: https://magic.wizards.com/en/article...-27-2018-09-19
Highlights:
Open Beta on the 27th, full RtRtR.
Last account wipe hits everyone.
Progression will still be trash because they haven't figured out a solution to the fifth card problem yet, but it's better than it was earlier in the beta.
Some "select" Ravnica physical product will have digital codes in it.
If you were in the beta, you get 1 copy each of the fancy, full art 'walkers - Teferi, Ral, Vraska.
No word yet on what happens to your stuff after rotation, as expected, they're kicking that can down the road a year.
It's the (potentially) last wipe and the transition into open beta (= release). Plus some extra stuff:
https://www.reddit.com/r/magicTCG/co...beta_announce/
And that's a bit of a bummer as I was expecting at least an idea of what was going to be done. Without any idea, we'll all flock into the best standard deck without any other considerations in collection building.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
Everything wrong with modern software development expressed in three wordsQuote:
Originally Posted by jmlima
No dude, it's just 1 word and that word is Agile.Quote:
Originally Posted by thecrav
I dunno, I've been having an unexpected blast playing mono U storm in Standard. I have accumulated enough other cards to probably make 1 other high tier Standard deck but don't really want to win with creatures or slow control.Quote:
Originally Posted by jmlima
The only change I really wish they had is to make some of the silly events free, I'm not spending my gold to play something as stupid as Standard Momir, but I'd probably mess around in there if they didn't try to make it competitive.
Don't bother. It's a heck of a crappy experience (standard momir). First player to 9 mana wins.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phoenix Ignition
One thing that really annoys me since the release of Arena (and let's face it, the open beta is just a name to justify putting out an unfinished product) is not being able to find good magic streams anymore. Everything plastered with a) paid shills or b) people with < 20 viewers, most even in the < 5 viewers range. There are currently 40 Arena streams up with 1 or 0 viewers and 88 Arena streams with <20 viewers. Wading through this sea of shit makes me lose interest in watching Magic streams.
http://www.mtgstreams.com/ shows all the streams and you can filter to whatever format you want.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
According to Pete Jahn's article series over on MTGO Traders, the cost of a "1 of everything" collection on MTGO has dropped by $3000 in the last two weeks. That's a huge amount. Now amplify it by a couple dozen or hundred or however many card sets the big bot chains have. I can't imagine they'll keep eating that kind of loss without raising hell with WotC. And a lot of those big MTGO bot chains are extensions of big physical MTG stores.
I don't expect WotC to do anything smart here, but I wouldn't at all be surprised by some asinine hairbrained reaction from someone. That's a LOT of "on paper value" getting destroyed fast.
WotC has zero long-term planning. While it might contribute to the issue, I don't think Arena is the main problem here. Why would Eternal cards drop that heavily when you can't even play it on Arena? The main problem is WotC enriching themselves on cost of the players (and bot chains) by using Treasure Chests as prizes. More and more supply with no demand to match is going to drive down prices heavily, matching the doomsayers from months ago claiming that treasure chests are the biggest threat to collection values, not Arena. And here we are. While it's awesome that you can get decks comparatively cheap now, it seems like a bad investment, considering cards will keep on dropping due to treasure chests.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
@phonics: Awesome link, thanks!
So you're basically complaining that card prices are getting lowered which makes legacy more avaliable online? Which also is the main goal for abolishing the RL in paper magic?
Low entry prices are good (even from WotC's standpoint), but if this keeps going, then owning cards is going to lose you money. Since MTGO is built around the bots, this is going to fuck up the entire ecosystem once major, reliable bots don't become sustainable anymore because WotC could never be assed to integrate an auction house. That's unlike Paper, where price gauging works due to the RL and shitty reprint policies, so scalpers and hoarders have a field day.Quote:
Originally Posted by MorphBerlin
Yeah, this. I don't know if any of you were around on MTGO before the bots showed up en masses, but jesus was that ever a clusterfuck. It was like a mid-90s AOL chatroom with everyone just screaming into the void. Also, no fractional ticket prices on anything. Basically, if any of the big bot chains detonate themselves, it has huge ripple effects, because it puts that much more pressure on the rest of the botchains to do the same or get left holding the bag, and it completely obliterates the way Limited works on MTGO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
But yes, in general, I'm thrilled prices are dropping. The problem is the reasoning behind and speed of said drops.
Sorry, can't hear you I'm regression testing for cr6Quote:
Originally Posted by CptHaddock
Yeah I looked at that PR you put up, it had a comment in it so I can't approve it because we only do Clean Code hereQuote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
3000$ loss on all cards is like -0.15$ on each card on average. hardly even noticable as a customer. besides there are tons of reprinted cards that are stupidly high priced because they were released in special sets and more or less a dead investment anyway (for the trader) since nobody will every buy them.
I wish mtgo would become more accessible in the future, because lower card prices will bring back more players. like in RL, magic should first be a game and then a secondary market buisness model.
im surprised how f2p friendly arena is (for now), so i play it a lot. its also fun because not everybody runs netdecks (for now)
That's not really how it works. The vast, vast, vast, vast, vast majority of cards on MTGO are essentially "free" with prices on bots of something like .0001 tix. Tournament playables are a much smaller pool, and they've been losing a LOT of value.Quote:
Originally Posted by Humphrey