The resurrection ability is too expensive for Legacy, but good enough for "newer" formats.
This leaves us with a 2/1 menace lifelinker. Not bad, but not terribly impressive, either, with everybody and their mother running Plague Engineer.
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The resurrection ability is too expensive for Legacy, but good enough for "newer" formats.
This leaves us with a 2/1 menace lifelinker. Not bad, but not terribly impressive, either, with everybody and their mother running Plague Engineer.
Doubt this sees Modern play, six mana is win-the-game territory in that format unless you are Tron, and no version of Tron wants this. (2/1 lifelink/menace for 2 mana is below-rate on its own as well.)Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
I wouldn’t read too much into the unproductive territory of trying to break the super mode on this card.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
You’ve got a 2cmc, basically unblockable (and for sure no Ice-Fang/Strix block cheese), almost-Klothys in “I don’t need red and green” color option. A card like this gives you extra draw steps against scenarios similar to “I’m dying to Goyf/Delver.” Versus a slower deck you get to threaten an imminent 2-for-1, whereas a single dude would never change the fact that you’re never winning that game. To use this creature over existing legacy staples would be strange, but effective. Do not underestimate keyword lifelink + menace.
https://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Search/Default.aspx?action=advanced&text=+[menace]+[lifelink] - cheapest creature with that ability combo yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
But isn't calling it basically unblockable quite a bit of an overstatement? If that combo is really that good, then why doesn't Kunoros, Hound of Athreos see more play?
Kunoros is three mana in two colors neither of which is blue, and there really isn't a UWB deck he could slot into. The symmetry of his ability also hurts him. But mostly it's the WB + 3 mana bit. The only common WB deck in Legacy is Deadguy variants, and to say they're overcrowded at the 3cmc slot is like saying the political climate in the US right now is a little contentious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
It's great in a Vampire tribal deck. And it certainly is a decent card on it's own. Not crazy like Dark Confident or Stone Forge Mystic but definitely playable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fox
I don't think you really need to try any force a tribe that isn't particularly solvent. Look for decks currently on Confidant but have no Mox/Loam or Depths; these are probably better off with this new guy given it's anti-Delver anti-durdle deck direction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
Klothys is also graveyard hate, is properly unblockable, and doesn't die to a stiff breeze. Vampire Nighthawk / Gifted Aetherborn variants just aren't good enough.
The Kunoros comparison is pretty appropriate I think.
http://www.themanadrain.com/assets/u...68d1-image.png
That’s an interesting way to combat removal...
That's pretty damn cool. Shattering into pieces!
Steel Stompy probably wants that badly, maybe in multiple formats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
It's another Hangarback Walker that triggers even when you StP or bounce it.
Or it just gets turned into an Elk. At least the+1/+1 counters are going to be its saving grace then.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
the funny thing is that making tokens isn't conditional on the sacrifice, so if you grapeshot your opponent for 1 and target this with n storm copies then you get n*p tokens
https://media.wizards.com/2020/znr/en_QrZGHyt7gq.png
Doran/High Alert :tongue:?
There's probably some tier 4 deck involvingQuote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Assault Formation
Huatli, the Sun's Heart
High Alert
Arcades, the Strategist
Shield Sphere
Wall of Junk
Wall of Shards
Wall of Denial
Charix
This seems like it will be an errata sooner or later.Quote:
Originally Posted by kombatkiwi
But then again, who ever oversees rule texts currently should be fired anyway.
Overgrown Battlement as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Imagine losing to steroid Mr Krabs and a literal junk card.
I say that a someone who lost with 0 cards in hand and Ensnaring Bridge to Killer Bees.
When is the power checked? If on resolution, don’t you still get only p tokens?Quote:
Originally Posted by kombatkiwi
That is, once you’ve sacrificed it once, it has no power, right?
It will use last known information. So, usually, 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by BirdsOfParadise
Wow, I’m surprised they didn’t add “if you do” in that case.