No, fuck that. If ANT is your favorite deck you need to tell wizards they're fucking wrong and they need to rectify their problem ASAP. This is so stupid..
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No, fuck that. If ANT is your favorite deck you need to tell wizards they're fucking wrong and they need to rectify their problem ASAP. This is so stupid..
ANT might yet live... but it will drop to Tier 1.5 at best :frown: As for Reanimator, they are probably out for the count.
Why DCI, why do you nerf Legacy like this? Now of all times, when we have such a healthy and balanced format?
I think you can still get a reliable engine going without Mystical Tutor, but it's going to be a lot more difficult to find that Wipe Away, Hurkyl's Recall, or Slaughter Pact when you need it against hate cards now.
And no more: EOT Mystic-->Duress,Ad Naus,Dark Rit...FMLQuote:
Originally Posted by lordofthepit
Words cannot express my sorrow.... ;(
(neither can emoticons)
Guess I´m back to Dredge then..:(
RIP ant. Wizards has officially fucked combo in the ass. ANT wasn't broken, no one was complaining. Ban iona or entomb if reanimator was really that bad. Time for aggro to run rampant in the streets =/ (at least there's still belcher! -_-)
This is so shit, words cannot express.
As we all know ANT was not a problem and in fact, kept pure aggro decks in check. Reanimator was a problem but had they not unbanned entomb in the first place, it wouldn't have been an issue either!
To me it seems like Wizards read the "Attacking is Miserable" article about two months too late. Here's hoping they read the counter arguments.
Well I'm sure they're reading this stuff now, they even posted a link to The Source on their front page (if you click on Community Spotlight).
I have lost all faith in Wizards listening to the Legacy Community.Quote:
Originally Posted by jrsthethird
Evidence of this is how in the article they point to the fact that legacy cannot continue indefinitely because of the shortage of duals. Given that the shortage of duals is a result of their no-reprint policy, i find this ironic.
Rest In Peace my beloved.
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b32/piZZero/ANT.png
I can't really express my feelings after so many years playing combo in Legacy.
Sad,
piZZero - Jordi Amat
Time to move towards TES? Belcher?
What happens to those who love combo???
All these bannings smell like clearing the path for the new Extended format....
This is unreal.
This is JUST unreal.
Seriously, someone could point me out where Mystical Tutor was exactly broken? It's a fucking card disadvantage card. If you can't deal with ANT, don't play Legacy- It' supposed to be an Eternal format, so it's fast.
Are they going to do the same thing that happened with vintage? Nerfing all the blue good cards just because people whine about "oomfg I was killed on turn3 fucking Ad Nauseum deck".
I propose to use the black ribbon , because somthing has died in here. Not only a deck (2 to be honest), but the decency in banning decisions. The truth is that Reanimator and ANT have made too much top8s in the 5K SCG, and that's the tourneys they checked to have a grip on the format (a thing that, evidently, they did not have at all). So they woke up and said, "Nahh. Combo is a bad thing in Legacy. It does not even play cards that may make us earn shitloads on Money, like Jace the Wallet Sculptor. Too broken-and too unprofitable- to go on."
Piceli, you're totally right.
Its so frustrating because ANT is one of the few decks out there thats not linear, and actually requires some thought. There was no reason at all to ban ANT (other than to make the transition into new extended easier). Wizards, you reallyyyy make me want to keep playing this game...
I was going to build ANT because it's fun to play, interesting, strong and complex... Instead, with the banning of Mystical Tutor, I'll be playing something else, losing to brainless aggro types and cursing WotC.
I'm a dedicated zoo player and I still know that this is a horrible move. Wizards seems to be just power-creeping the hell out of creatures, and now they're banning combo pieces, seems bad.
I just finished building my ANT yesterday, all on trades, including Duals, im a freaking back to school student so ressources are rare, 3 freaking month it took me!
Well, theres 2 local Legacy events this week end around here, so i guess those will be the only two time i will have the chance of playing the deck...
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Originally Posted by Piceli89
This is the point I want to talk about most here. To say this is makes you look totally uninformed and actually just plain stupid. You realize WoTC makes $0 on the secondary market? "But hot cards make people buy packs to open and get the money cards!" That is maybe 10% true. I would think it is a 50-50 split on people buying packs cause they like to and not just looking for anyone card and limited format.
Maybe reanimator was putting up too good of results. Maybe a card coming out in M11/Scars would have been too busted with MT still around? You won't know the real reason until they say so.
Nothing has "died" here, way to be over-dramatic.
Being that you're all dedicated combo players, you seem to have missed what Mystical Tutor actually said:
Mystical Tutor
U
Instant
Search your library for the card that wins you the game next turn and put it on top of your library.
Mystical does have built-in card disadvantage. This does not stop it from singlehandedly winning games on turn 2. There are almost no other cards in the format that can be cast for one mana at instant speed that enable like this one does. Storm is an archetype that has been around since Legacy started, and Tendrils decks have always played 4 of this card. The effect of storm combo on the format has been gradual and a part of the format forever. Simply put: storm combo has prevented many non-blue decks from performing well because they have not had adequate tools to fight it. Gaddok Teeg, Cannonist, True Believer, Rule of Law, Orim's Chant, Pyrostatic Pillar, Mindbreak Trap et. al. None of these cards have been strong enough to give non-blue decks a favorable or at least no-so-god-damned-awful combo match. Storm has been consistently performing since at least the days of IGGy Pop in 2005. The deck has been Pop, Fetchland Tendrils, Perfect Storm and ANT.
All of that is still not enough to ban Mystical Tutor.
Lately Mystical Tutor has been fetching cards named Entomb and Reanimate/Exhume. At this point Mystical Tutor is making the format too fast for a large number of decks to be viable. Banning Tutor brings the power level of ANT and Reanimator significantly lower, but it also opens a big window for decks like Lands, Goblins, Survival, Enchantress, Loam decks and an insignificant number of fringe archetypes to become playable in larger tournaments. It is shocking to see Mystical Tutor leave the format but this is a healthy decision for the Legacy format.