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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I lost an enormous number of games to Sneak/Show, OmniShow, and High Tide before I realized that Split Second is actively critical. The free factor of Surgical is wonderful, and definitely relevant in some matchups (Dredge, Breakfast, Spy, and a few others come to mind), but at the end of the day, for what role I want the card to fulfill, I'll take Extirpate over Surgical in most metas.
Note that I agree that blindly choosing Extirpate over Surgical is patently wrong. Everyone should always rebuild their sideboard before every event, and critically evaluate every option to make sure that it's where you want to be. I'm not a fan of jamming Extirpate for Extirpate's sake, in the same way that I'm (still) not a fan of Brainstorm "because Brainstorm." It's not an argument in-itself.
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I'll be jamming at least one or two Win-a-boxes with Rector this weekend (and I think Steve is probably going to borrow it for a couple while I'm 12posting). To that end, I updated the board for the expected meta, which is to say a ton of combo and Esperblade.
2 Elspeth, Knight-Errant
1 Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1 Batterskull
2 Enlightened Tutor
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Humility
1 Nether Void
2 Leyline of Sanctity
3 Mindbreak Trap
Pretty close to what I've been running, with just a few minor tweaks. I'm exceptionally happy with the control mirror package. The planeswalkers help out enormously with the actual winning-in-time problem, and they're huge trumps for the midrange matchup, too. There are few things Jund is as angry to see across from them as Elspeth. Somewhere along the way I realized that there are two essential classifications of planeswalker:
Value
Combat
Value walkers include Jace, Liliana, and most commonly played options (Domri would also count here). They usually draw cards, filter cards, or discard cards; and they frequently have a creature-removal option on them as well.
Combat walkers are your Elspeth K-E, Sorin LoA, Garruk Primal Hunter, and so on. They usually involve making tokens and enhancing creatures.
It just so happens that one of the best ways to combat a value-planeswalker is with a combat-planeswalker. Jace loses to Elspeth and Sorin. So does Liliana. The value-walkers can't keep up with the combat-walkers on their own. Esperblade needs to keep Elspeth down via a combination of Jace and cards from their deck (Swords, Snapcasters, Clique beats, etc). By contrast, we don't need to use our resources to protect Elspeth and Sorin -- we can be aggressively building board state while our opponents are focused on them. This is huge for us.
Batterskull overperformed the last time I ran the deck, so it's back for another go.
ETs help fetch whatever we need fetched vs combo matchups, but I also like to board in 1 copy vs control decks as a aid in finding Batterskull late or Top early. ET for Deed helps vs aggro.
Crypt and Chalice are the standard early-game ET bullets for graveyard combo and Chrome Mox / LED combo, respectively. Chalice on 1 is a beating vs Elves, if you're not in the position to ET for Deed instead.
Nether Void and Humility are the standard stone-cold-killers in the matchups where they're relevant.
Leyline and Mindbreak are the standard 5-cards of t0 protection. Leyline is also strong vs Jund decks that want to Hymn you into the ground.
So yeah. We'll see how my win-a-boxes go =)
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
bruizar
In a world with Sword of War and Peace, Stormseeker, Windfall (banned), Runeflare Trap, and many other cards. Heuristics like that cause innovation to stifle.
No, bad cards make people make bad decks that are way less good at doing something that a better deck already does better.
That was definitely a set of the worst examples one could give to justify using Devastation Tide over Pernicious Deed. Because if you use Deed, you don't have to use any of those amazingly shitty cards. Windfall being the exception, and even then, kinda less than stellar and similar effects exist.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Nithkar
Hey guys.
I've recently have brought my attention to legacy and decided to go for Nic Fit. Initially i thought of building the rector version, but by reading about the meta-game nowadays I've started to think that a red splash would be better, especially because Red Elemental Blast and Slaughter Games. I really love the last one. But, since Scapewish don't let you have a combo hate sideboard (at least not a optimized one), i decided for the Punishing Nic Fit.
And when i was studying this build, i came across the inclusion of living wish on this list. And although i thought it doesn't had space, due Recurring Nightmare not being used anymore (aside rector), i was tempted to go for 2 of them in my main list, for the purpose of getting Magus of the Blood Moon and the lands. So it ended up the following, but i still have some considerations i would like your help with:
3x Grove of the Burnwillows
2x Bayou
1x Badlands
1x Taiga
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Volrath's Stronghold
4x Verdant Catacombs
2x Wooded Foothills
3x Forest
2x Swamp
2x Mountain
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Deathrite Shaman
2x Eternal Witness
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
1x Huntmaster of the Fells
2x Thragtusk
1x Primeval Titan
1x Broodmate Dragon
3x Pernicious Deed
3x Sensei's Divining Top
4x Green Sun's Zenith
4x Cabal Therapy
3x Punishing Fire
3x Abrupt Decay
2x Maelstrom Pulse
2x Living wish
SB:
3x Red Elemental Blast
3x Mindbreak Trap
2x Thoughtsize
2x Slaughter Games
2x Leyline of Sanctity/Layline of the Void
1x Grove of the Burnwillows
1x Magus of the Moon
1x Karakas
What do you think? As for the considerations, here they are. I know its an under-usage of living wish. I truly don't know if it's worth it, perhaps the addition of Garruk would be better. Sencond one would be DRS x Scavenging Ooze: i am beginning to think the first one is better, but i still see the second one more often in deck lists, so i cant be sure for certain. Third and final one is that I'm thinking of loosing titan for some other bomb. I really don't think he's that good on this list, especially with living wish on the board. I thought of Wolfir Silverheart, but i would realy like another flying bomb, one "like" Sigarda. The problem is that i can't think of any. Last, how is Recurring Nightmare playing nowadays? Is it only playable on Rector?
General help about the decklist is also welcome guys, and thanks in advance.
I really like this Punishing Fire variant of Nic Fit. I am currently doing some research and build a version of this variant. I am thinking of including both DRS and Ooze as a one-off. I would like to run only one huntmaster and I really like Garruk Relentless. Also I don't like Broodmate Dragon to much. Viridia made a solid suggestion for a replacement: Rampaging Baloths. turning lategame veterans and fetchlands into 4/4 tokens. Also I am thinking about including Borborygmos Enraged (maybe with the support of Rec Nightmare) and one life from the loam. The 8 CMC is huge, but when he hits the table and you start dredging with Top's you can shoot down the opponent pretty fast. This is just theorycrafting. Also the interaction with loam and baloth to create a huge army of tokens.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Hey guys, all your crazy "research" and "realizations" aside, the Jund list really should be credited to HoneyT.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Hey guys, all your crazy "research" and "realizations" aside, the Jund list really should be credited to HoneyT.
The Punishing Fire version is jointed accredited to HoneyT and Tao in my mind -- they both refined it at about the same time. I don't think anyone here was challenging that -- just because HoneyT and Tao refined PFire to the point of playability doesn't mean that other people can't learn about it and pick it up later, making their own tweaks to it.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
The Punishing Fire version was, if I recall correctly, initially made by Rabrab and me more than one year ago. I got a PM from Rabrab with a list, tweaked it a bit to my personal taste and had time for a ML trial:
http://www.thecouncil.es/tcdecks/dec...0&iddeck=55208
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
RaNDoMxGeSTuReS
Hey guys, all your crazy "research" and "realizations" aside, the Jund list really should be credited to HoneyT.
I'm sorry if what i said seemed like i was saying the punishing fire Nic Fit is my doing. I would never do so, and saying something like that was never my intention. If it sounded like that, i honestly apologize. In fact, most of what i saw about this version and about the Nic Fit in general was within this tread, and my intention was only to get help from the people that originally thought of this deck to build up my deck in a way that can put up the best game possible.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Has anyone thought of using Imperial RecruiterAnd the changing up your fatty suite to make him awesome? For example as a 7 drop you can run Hornet Queen!
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Megadeus
Has anyone thought of using Imperial RecruiterAnd the changing up your fatty suite to make him awesome? For example as a 7 drop you can run Hornet Queen!
I don't see the point of that in the face of Fierce Empath who is both green and cheaper and serves the same purpose.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Fair point. Empath puts on top of library though (it might be relevant). But for the most part you have a point lol
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Megadeus
Fair point. Empath puts on top of library though (it might be relevant). But for the most part you have a point lol
It goes directly into your hand.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I actually just played Punishing fire tonight for the first time and enjoyed it. It was just at the causal 5$ legacy FNM with like 16 people. Usually theres 30+ people at this weekly event, and its alot of the jupiter/mythic crowd, but I think Cornell must be on break or something because alot of the usual competitive people weren't there. I got 3rd, only losing to TES with this list:
23 Lands:
4x Grove of the Burnwillows
2x Bayou
1x Badlands
2x Taiga
1x Phyrexian Tower
1x Kessig Wolf Run
1x Volrath's Stronghold
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x Forest
2x Swamp
2x Mountain
4x Veteran Explorer
2x Sakura Tribe Elder
1x Eternal Witness
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
3x Huntmaster of the Fells
1x Thragtusk
1x Wolfir Silverheart
1x Primeval Titan
1x Garruk, Primal Hunter
3x Pernicious Deed
3x Sensei's Divining Top
4x Green Sun's Zenith
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Punishing Fire
3x Abrupt Decay
1x Maelstrom Pulse
SB:
3x Red Elemental Blast
1x Maelstrom Pulse
1x Thoughtsize
2x Slaughter Games
3x Carpet of Flowers
Xx Meta dependent cards I wouldnt run elsewhere
I was happy with the list, Id change the SB around alot for a different event, but the MD I liked a lot. Garruk, thrun, Silverheart, and Wolf Run were awesome, some combo of those cards won most of my games. It nice being able to play stuff like 4 PFires, 3-4 Decays, 1-2 Pulses, with REBs and more discard in the SB (in contrast with scapeshifts tight list).
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
nice to see some punishing fire discussion going. I haven't played legacy since forever feels like, there has barley been any legacy tournaments around here and seems like lots of people quit playing too, or having a break..
Anyways I've mostly been running the rector version w/ moat etc but tomorrow we actually have a tournament which im gonna attend to. Will be playing punishing fire, despite the fact half of the people in the room will be on combo decks of sorts. All my cards in the sideboard are for combo decks so
CREATURES (13)
1 Broodmate Dragon
1 Sakura-Tribe Elder
1 Eternal Witness
2 Huntmaster of the Fells
1 Primeval Titan
1 Scavenging Ooze
1 Thragtusk
1 Thrun, the Last Troll
4 Veteran Explorer
ENCHANTMENTS (4)
4 Pernicious Deed
SORCERIES (9)
4 Cabal Therapy
4 Green Sun’s Zenith
1 Maelstrom Pulse
INSTANTS (6)
2 Abrupt Decay
4 Punishing Fire
PLANESWALKERS (2)
1 Garruk, Primal Hunter
1 Garruk Relentless
ARTIFACTS (3)
3 Sensei’s Divining Top
LANDS (23)
1 Badlands
3 Bayou
3 Forest
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
1 Kessig Wolf Run
1 Mountain
2 Swamp
1 Taiga
4 Verdant Catacombs
3 Wooded Foothills
SIDEBOARD
4 Red Elemental Blast
4 Extirpate
3 Slaughter Games
4 Duress
I'm still not sold on the Broodmate Dragon. To be fair I just haven't tested him enough to make an honest decision
Might do a report on sunday evening or monday
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
litenkatt
I'm still not sold on the Broodmate Dragon. To be fair I just haven't tested him enough to make an honest decision
Bobmans has suggested Rampaging Baloths as a replacement, which i think is a great idea. But although i think it would be very good, i fear losing the only flying body on the deck. Is it just me? Also, i want to be convinced on Prime Titan on this deck. I love the card, and i know there is Grove of Burnwillows and Kessig to fetch, but i can't stop thinking that I don't find it half as good as fetching two Creeping Tar Pits (as in the deadeye build you guys developed). Am I wrong on this?
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Originally Posted by
Zombie
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Hah, exactly that.
I think PrimeTime should stay in the 60. it also makes cards like Bojuka Bog optional. Anyway, Aside from just being 2x 4/4 flying does Broodmate Dragon serves a role specifically performed by this creature, or is it just because you would want to have an extra out? Or is it to be able to block opponents flyers? There are alternatives, but if I would want to replace Broodmate permanently, I would want to fill the possible gap when its missing.
Being able to create an army of 4/4 tokens mostly mean that the opponent having flyers becomes irrelevant. Unless he can outrace you when you're low on life.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
You want to play ~two 6-drops anyway just for curve reasons. And both are good ones because they have a high power level and they can't be killed one for one by the opponent. The thought behind the split of 1 Primeval Titan, 1 Broodmate Dragon is to have one big GSZ target for the long game and one for an immediate impact.
If you play against a Jace control deck a Broodmate Dragon probably won't cut it. They will Swords it, then Snapcaster Swords it. Or Swords the original, then use Jace to bounce the Token. Primeval Titan hits Jace from a different angle and it doesn't matter if they kill it (they will). If you get two Groves it will put you ahead on mana and they will have a much harder time defending their Jace.
Broodmate is better against decks that put you under pressure. If you are up against 2 Delvers or a 6/7 Goyf or a Tombstalker or a bunch of Goblins then Primeval won't give you the immediate impact that you need but Broodmate can immediately stabilize the board. Broodmate truly shines in these situations, I'd love to have such a GSZ target for my BUG list.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
On the topic of 6drops that Jund nic fit should be running, apparently this is going to be the Gruul Champion in dragons maze (stole from MTGS, who got it from Pax east):
Quote:
"Ruric-That, the Unborn 4GR, mythic, Legendary Creature - 6/6 vigilance reach. Must attack. Whenever anyone plays a noncreature, they take 6."
Card Image here
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Tao
You want to play ~two 6-drops anyway just for curve reasons. And both are good ones because they have a high power level and they can't be killed one for one by the opponent. The thought behind the split of 1 Primeval Titan, 1 Broodmate Dragon is to have one big GSZ target for the long game and one for an immediate impact.
If you play against a Jace control deck a Broodmate Dragon probably won't cut it. They will Swords it, then Snapcaster Swords it. Or Swords the original, then use Jace to bounce the Token. Primeval Titan hits Jace from a different angle and it doesn't matter if they kill it (they will). If you get two Groves it will put you ahead on mana and they will have a much harder time defending their Jace.
Broodmate is better against decks that put you under pressure. If you are up against 2 Delvers or a 6/7 Goyf or a Tombstalker or a bunch of Goblins then Primeval won't give you the immediate impact that you need but Broodmate can immediately stabilize the board. Broodmate truly shines in these situations, I'd love to have such a GSZ target for my BUG list.
Perhaps Hornet Queen provides a nice solution to the given situations. Only thing is that it only has a total of 6 power compared to 8 from broodmate dragon. It can chump block anything on the board and it can even help to minimize the devestation an Emrakul puts us in, saccing 4 tokens, blocking with the hornet and saccing some lands or whatever.
edit: kessig wolf run makes a nice combo with the deathtouch ability. It would only require to do 1 damage to any blocking creature and the rest to the opponent.
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I've been playing Punishing Nic-fit for while and this is my current list:
Lands (23)
2x Bayou
2x Badlands
1x Taiga
4x Grove of the Burnwillows
4x Verdant Catacombs
3x Wooded Foothills
1x Phyrexian Tower
3x Forest
2x Swamp
1x Mountain
Creatures (14)
4x Veteran Explorer
1x Scavenging Ooze
2x Eternal Witness
1x Thrun, the Last Troll
2x Huntmaster of the Fells
1x Thragtusk
2x Grave Titan
1x Broodmate Dragon
Spells (23)
4x Cabal Therapy
2x Thoughtseize
3x Punishing Fire
2x Abrupt Decay
2x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Pernicious Deed
4x Green Sun's Zenith
3x Sensei's Divining Top
Sideboard
4x Surgical Extraction
3x Duress
3x Red Elemental Blast
2x Slaughter Games
3x Angel of Despair / Mindbreak Trap (meta-dependant)
Yesterday I placed 3 out of 14 people at our local shop with this list (using Angel of Despair in the sb) and was quite happy with the deck. I've beaten Dragon Stompy (2-0), Affinity (2-0) and Burn (2-0) and lost to UW Miracles (0-1). All the matches were fairly easy to beat, almost having no problems at all. The meta was: Sneak Show, UW Miracles (RiP/ Helm), Esper Stoneblade, Burn, Zombardment, Elves, Affinity, Dragon Stompy, Merfolk, Goblins
Dragon Stompy can do little to screw us, since our curve is higuer than the usual CoTV at 1 or 2 and we dont care about Thrinisphere at all (as long we dont get mana screwed). A T0 Magus or Blood Moon can be dangerous if all we got is fetches, but thats it: once we have a swamp and a forest out, its very hard to lose.
Affinity was an easy match, just blowed Pernicious Deed to wipe the opponent's board and that was it.
Burn was a little harder, since there was a good amount of pressure, but Huntmaster and Thragtusk saved the day.
The most difficult match was UW Miracles (RiP / Helm of Obedience version). G1 lasted 40 minutes, and I lost to Helm mulling my library after I had a Grave Titan going for lethal damage on the following turn. In G2, time was called, so it ended 0-1. After the tournament was finished, I played against another player with a similar Miracles list and lost 1-2 (The game I won was on the back of a lone uncounterable Thrun beatdown).
This matchup has been very annoying for me. My current sideboard for it is: -1 Scavening Ooze, -1 Eternal Witness, -3 Punishing Fire, +2 Slaughter Games, +3 Red Elemental Blast. My main target for Slaughter Games has been RiP most of the time, and I got 3x ReB's and 2x Pulse to deal with Jace. My plan is to win via Thrun beats and use Discard, Deed, Decay and Pulse to avoid Jace, RiP and Entreat the Angels.
Do you guys have any other tips for this matchup? Also, I was thinking of 3x Carpet of Flowers in the 3x Angel of Despair / Mindbreak Trap, but idk if its worth it, since it gets blown out with Deed and we already have a difficult combo matchup... Any thoughts?
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Punishing Nic Fit is on SCG's stream right now, being played by Tim Wilson. Is he in this thread?
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
After they punt back and forth a bit, punishing nic fit takes it down! I hope to see him later in the top8.
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Interesting game.
Weird targets for slaughter games.
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exw
Interesting game.
Weird targets for slaughter games.
The late Punishing fire name was weird, but I like naming entreat. It was between entreat and terminus I think (thrun can deal with jace). But he didnt see many termini previously, and an entreat would beat thrun AND wins the game, terminus just deals with thrun.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I was really hoping he would see the deed for zero, because the opponent clearly didn't. That was a nice play, I really disagree with his exiling the Punishing Fires game 2 but otherwise I think he played it pretty well. Hope to see him go all the way.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
HoneyT is 6-0 with Punishing Fire Nic Fit at SCG KC. Can probably double draw in to top eight. He beat ANT three times on the day.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
This guy is 3-3 with rector fit.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I'm playing Punishing Nic Fit at SCG KC. The Slaughter Games on Punishing Fire was necessary because my hand at the time couldn't deal with Geist through the Fires.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
I didn't see your hand so that's definitely a reason. Super excited to see Nic Fit in the top 8 later! Take it home!
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Congratulations to Honey for the finish.
unfortunate matchup in Top8
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Been quiet for a while but have been keeping up reading all posts.
In this case I just want to congratulate Honey with his fantastic result. Soon to be deck to beat !! :smile:
Looking forward to your report by the way. Especially SB plans and considerations for possible changes.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
Bobmans
Perhaps
Hornet Queen provides a nice solution to the given situations. Only thing is that it only has a total of 6 power compared to 8 from broodmate dragon. It can chump block anything on the board and it can even help to minimize the devestation an Emrakul puts us in, saccing 4 tokens, blocking with the hornet and saccing some lands or whatever.
Total power is the least I care about. I will give Hornet Queen a try in BUG.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Durward Loved Hornet Queen in GB fit. Didnt he play like 1 MB 2 SB or something? I mean it is definitely sweet. 6 power that is great on offense AND defense.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
So....I played in KC on Sunday. But first I played in the Legacy challenge on Sat with Rector fit.
The List:
4x Veteran Explorer
1x Starved Rusalka
2x Sakura-Tribe Elder
2x Eternal Witness
1x Fierce Empath
3x Academy Rector
1x Thragtusk
1x Sigarda, Host of Herons
2x Baneslayer Angel
1x Sun Titan
1x Yosei, the Morning Star
4x Pernicious Deed
1x Recycle
1x Faith's Fetters
1x Recurring Nightmare
4x Cabal Therapy
4x Green Sun's Zenith
1x Vindicate
1x Maelstrom Pulse
3x Sensei's Divining Top
3x Bayou
1x Savannah
1x Scrubland
3x Verdant Catacombs
3x Windswept Heath
3x Forest
3x Plains
2x Swamp
2x Phyrexian Tower
1x Volrath's Stronghold
SB:
1x Humility
2x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Mindbreak trap
1x Chalice of the Void
1x E.Tutor
1x Elspeth
1x Batterskull
1x Sorin, Lord of Innistrad
1x Surgical Extraction
1x Oblivion ring
1x Angel of Despair
1x Illiness in the ranks (don't ask)
1x Abrupt Decay
Fairly close to Ari's list.
Note: I've been under the weather for a few days, so my memory isn't the best.
Round 1: Matthew with BUG Delver?
Game 1: Not much here, I land a Thragtusk. Beat with it, and drop a nightmare to seal it.
Game 2: I get Sorin out turn 2, deed turn 3 and blow it for 2. and then a Batterskull. GG.
Round 2: Alex with ANT (Local guy from Minneapolis, plays at Monster Den)
Game 1: I keep a one lander with a top. He attempts to go off with Ad Nauseam, goes down to 2. Has to past in flames back the Ad Nauseam...and dies with 2 duresses.
Game 2: We both mulligan and I keep a hand of a couple of land, witness and both leyline of sanctity. I get a mindbreak trap to counter an infernal, then get a nightmare to go with the other witness for shenanigans.
Round 3: Blaine with RUG
Game 1: I go down to 5 before I get Tusk and then Sun Titan/deed happens.
Game 2: I go down to 3.....land batterskull....and he doesn't topdeck the bolt. Sorin joins the party to mop up.
Round 4: Devin with Re animator
I offer the draw for 3-0-1 split (mostly because I'm sick and tired), he declines.
Game 1: He gets an early Archon, then an Elesh Norn. I fetters the Norn for some life. I end up ramping....getting an empath for titan. playing titan for empath for yosei. I think I'm almost at lethal with a baneslayer and yosei on my side. I topdeck.....a rector. I think for minute before I realize I get nightmare to lock him out. Thanks elesh norn! So we durdle for a while before I get something to kill the Archon. Of course, I'm a dumbass with 2 therapies in my hand, with him tapped out....he forces the nightmare during one of the loops. but I still have a tower to sac yosei. Titan gets nightmare back. Game over.
I still offer the draw....and he accepts.
So....7 games...7 wins... (well...6 and a whiff by the opponent). Sunday, not as well. I'll cover that later.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
As most of you know, I made Top 8 at SCG KC. I want to say thanks to everyone on here for all the support!! I will be posting a tournament report sometime tomorrow evening so be sure to look out for that!!
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Game 1: I keep a one lander with a top. He attempts to go off with Ad Nauseam, goes down to 2. Has to past in flames back the Ad Nauseam...and dies with 2 duresses.
What turn is this? If it's 1 or 2 I'll be depressed. Learn to play your decks ffs (directed at Storm player) : /
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Originally Posted by
Zombie
What turn is this? If it's 1 or 2 I'll be depressed. Learn to play your decks ffs (directed at Storm player) : /
Turn 2, I believe.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
Sup peeps, haven't posted in a while.
I'm surprised no ones commented on what reads like my new favorite experimental slot in scapeshift...
http://i.imgur.com/ggJIzXz.jpg
6 mana slot, GSZ-able, provides defense against delvers and souls, and my favorite part, 6 damage if he's removed.
He seems to provide a good "high mana" end to the beat down plan that scapeshift loves to play at times.
Feels?
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
He has a 6/6 body with vigilance. Under what circumstance would you not just bash in with him anyways? Like obviously there's outlying circumstances but you don't often see people hold back a batterskull. Few creatures in legacy get larger than 6/6, Nic fit pretty much bases its game around not giving a shit about them, I see virtually no downside to playing him.
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Re: [Deck] Nic Fit (GBW Explorer Zenith Control)
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Originally Posted by
slikwilly
"~ attacks each turn if able." So he's only delver protection when he has summoning sickness. Still, the way I read it is "this thing is too good, so we have to nerf it with the 'must attack clause' but we'll make up for that by giving it reach."
Seems nifty, but the experimental slot is the right place for it I think. Now, if he trampled...
Vigilance.
I haven't gotten to test him yet, but on paper he seems good against any deck playing cantrips.