That was some next level plays you made. Holy shit you deserved that win.
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That was some next level plays you made. Holy shit you deserved that win.
Always read you, and never play much, but saw that last game...and man! It's the best I've seen! Keep enjoying the deck. And congrats!!!
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Hopefully now 15 lands will be the gold standard. I also heard the commentator mention Dark Petition when Togores was in an AdN. I see zero copies in his list, as expected. Also, 2 PIF, and 3 Tendrils in the 75.
Thanks guys!
I got really lucky to face 0 eldrazi while for example my opp in the finals played against 5.
Sometimes your blessed :3
Dear Rodrigo,Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
First of all, congratulations on your victory! I think I can say that that was not just the best I've ever seen somebody play Storm but one the best games of Magic I've ever seen anybody play, period. Very impressive!
I was wondering if by any chance you could give some details about your sideboard, it's unlike any I have seen. I would really appreciate this as I struggle mightily with sideboarding for ANT and have been for years, and I'm sure others would appreciate it as well. I noticed you are playing a LOT of permanent hate (4 Decay, 2 Truth, 2 K-Grip). How do you find room to bring in so many of these? I'm also intrigued by the 2 extra copies of Tendrils in your sideboard. What do you bring these in against?
If you could give a brief overview of your sideboarding plan vs. Miracles, Eldrazi, and Grixis Delver, that would be much appreciated as well :). You're probably exhausted of course so no worries if you don't have time to answer my questions!
Congrats once again :)
-FZA
Congratulations man, that last game was the best game i have ever watched. What are the reasons behind not running dark petition? Hope to play against you (again) in Madrid soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
Just follow me on twitch @togorestcg and there You can get the answers to all this questions in the stream or past streams.
Congrats on the win, an epic game 3. Doing some quick math on the turn before you went off, I'm not sure you could have beaten Surgical-Snap-Surgical on both rituals...but even then I think you still perhaps had a shot (facing SDT floating Fluster) if you found a second LED at some point on the last turn. For the pilot and those who've watched the replay, is there an argument to be made for trying to resolve IT (reveal LED) in the second to last turn's main phase? It's hard to see if he had IT in hand or ever saw one off of the Brainstorm/Ponder, but in the hypothetical, would that have been the correct line going into the last turn with Tendrils in hand vs opponent with 10 life and known Fluster?
Congratulation, really well played.
Did I see correctly, that miracle pilot forgot to attack with snapcaster once in G3?
congrats Rodrigo! You should start an academy for aspiring storm players.
Cheers
Congrats to the win togores! It was awesome two watch both top decks of legacy in the finals.
He did, and I also think that he waited too long to play his second snapcaster to increase the pressure. But I didn't blame him for that. Anybody who came so far earned my sincere respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by datanaga
Congratulations, Rodrigo. Awesome results.
I was on Sloshstorm this weekend but had some hard time facing some difficult MUs and eventually lost too many rounds. I don't want to recall the bad beats whatever stories but instead carry on.
The only thing that bothered me (and still bothers) is that I played decently enough to reach day2 but that's mtg/Legacy.
Rd1 bye
Rd2 bye
Rd3 Sneakshow 2-1
Rd4 Grixis Delver 1-2
Rd5 Canadian 2-1
Rd6 TA 2-1
Rd7 Aggro Loam 0-2
Rd8 SneakShow 0-2
Rd9 Shardless BUG 1-2
I was already on tilt before the last two rounds. See you next time.
Congrats Rodrigo! finals make an interesting study material
very mediocre report this time...Quote:
Originally Posted by CabalTherapy
R1 2-0 Imperial Painter ... T1 kill/natural ToA under moon
R2 2-1 Punnishing Maverick .... G2 Leyline + Mindbreak trap
R3 1-2 Shardless - .... G1 mull 5 still T2 EtW ended up B screwed with DR+TOA adn SDT in play with him on 6, G3 - we are going to time I take a risky line because I'm mana screwed and it's unlikely he can kill me in extras, turns out he has Fow and actually attack for exatsies in the last turn... I pushed my luck too far, went for stupid AdN instead of waiting it out, tilted a bit, you can't d such things and expect to finish good, things go south this point on...
R4 1-2 Infect .... G1 mull5 somehow still win, G2+G3 lot of infectors, lot of permision vs. unexciting hands = no game = max tilt
R5 0-2 UW Affinity .... G1 mull5 ironically lose because he forgot a CotV trigger on SDT, so I'm 1 card short for a CR, G2 occupied getting rid of CotVs, he topdecks Plating.. very nice opponent, apologizes for missing the triggers as he hates to lose to bad players... I can relate... which brings us to another round:
R6 2-1 BURG (Manipulato) .... I'm absolutely burned out and question my presence in the room.. trying to focus and motivate myself actually results into the worst Mtg match I have palyed for years... G1 misplay into win = more tilt, G2 actually scoop out of shame even though I can play on and very likely win, G3 bad hand into lucky win... a point where I question whether the Mtg makes some sense at all, I was one of the idiots who just jam cards and win no matter how well you played this time a loss would be merciful to me..
R7 0-2 Burn .... local guy, always excited to deal 3... G1 medium mull6 on draw vs. T12 Eidolon, G2 unexciting 6 vs well, burn...
results into liberating drop
sidevent - I question whether to watch D2 friends or burn more money (likely in my mental state after D1), but ultimately gather myself and present the same deck once again
R1 2-0 MOST .... great guy on a pseudo survival special
R2 2-0 Jund .... Jund
R3 0-2 D+T .... a lady.. G1 BS locked on 1 island, when I topdeck land no.2 I'm facing lethal and 1 mana short to kill though Thalia, G2 a lot of mana, no bussiness, BSK does it
R4 2-0 Ant .... attrition war, G1 my opp doesnt go for Pif+cantrips, G2 I control the game with 2x Extripate+Fluster
R5 2-1 BURG .... 2x ToA > Stifle, thought he was on Grixis G2
R6 ID Aggroloam .... ID with a friend into getting back the costs of the weekend
not making D2 is embarassing an unacceptable on every level, MUs were ok, the Shardless decision cost me, also my czech friends did not do well D2, getting the "fun" for free is a small patch on overall dissapointment on a GP in my very hometown...
Congrats, Togores! Stormed 'em out.
Got crushed 0-3 in the Bush League yesterday after punting really hard, so commiserations, gents. Low-lights include going for T1 AdN from 20 against Miracles (he used the Force) and just forgetting how AdN works in round 3. I managed to win a game, and if I'd not stopped my AdN too early in another.... Concentration's never been my strong suit, and I guess it's just been a weird weekend. Lots of random drama/nonsense to deal with in the Real World and not a lot of time to practice.
Couple of things people have said/demonstrated that I've been kicking around in my head, and I've got a couple of questions:
—Someone earlier mentioned that he/she thought 15 lands should be the new standard. Much as it aggravates me to get stuck on a zero-lander and have to keep with 14 mainboard, I feel like that happens a lot less often than the opposite does when I'm on 15 (Ponder into lands, shuffle, topdeck a land, fetch, topdeck a second land next turn). Having not yet seen the crazy match for Togores yet, I don't have context for people's saying that. What's the reasoning behind 15 over 14? Does it slow you guys down often?
—I'm less enthused about maindeck Chrome Mox than I was before. I find that it's often the least useful card I'm running because it clashes with our other fast mana and stunts our hand, and (perhaps somewhat ironically) I'm considering going back to 2x Preordain to facilitate cantrip-PiF chains. Anyone else been running the Mox alongside Rain of Filth? I remember Nevilshute said he was trying it out for a bit. One reason I ask is that the Mox seemed like a possible stopgap between running 14 lands and getting shafted and running 15 and getting flooded.
—Is anybody running Pithing Needle against Miracles? Also, how many cards should we switch out in the matchup? Got crushed in my first Miracles matchup in about 3 months yesterday, and I have a feeling I boarded too heavily. Brought in Pithing Needle, 4x Decay instead of a couple of Petals and a couple of things I don't remember (probs Preordain, a discard, and something I don't remember), and switched an Island and a Petition for a Tropical and Tendrils #2. Do we keep all our cantrips in this matchup? Last time I played against it before yesterday, I remember getting locked so quickly that the cantrips did nothing. Yesterday, in G2, it felt like the opposite happened: I couldn't assemble anything quickly enough to combo before he'd ended up with a hand like Force, Force, Fluster, Jace, Brainstorm.
Hope I'm not retreading too much with these questions, but if anyone's got some reading material on how to deal with Miracles, I'd appreciate the tip.
Congrats to Togores! I think this displays the high ceiling of Storm and how the deck truly rewards players for mastering the deck. Togores has put so much time into this deck, and it is so awesome to see when hard work pays off like this.
I can't say much about the ANT side of this matchup because I played almost exclusively miracles in the last years, but I can tell you what are the worst things you can do against us in this matchup from the miracles perspective:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronald Deuce
- Resolve your SDT
- Krosan grip our SDT
- Resolve xantid swarm (be aware that good players have 2 copies of EE or EE+Terminus in after side)
- Lure us into playing spells in your combo turn and kill us with natural tendrils
Maybe this helps a bit, but I don't know if it's the best you can do from the ant perspective.
Though I haven't played Storm in quite sometime, it is always a deck I will love. Congrats to Togores for his victory with ANT, fellow stormtroopers around the world are very proud.
Slightly dissapointing GP for me, although it was great to see Togores win it all. Well deserved.
My GP:
Friday side event: 3-1
R1: DnT 2-0 1-0
R2: Eldrazi 2-1 2-0
R3: Miracles 0-2 2-1 (pretty weak play)
R4: Infect 2-0 3-1
Saturday Day-1 Main Event: 6-3
R1: *BYE*
R2: *BYE*
R3: Jund 2-0 3-0
R4: Infect 2-1 4-0
R5: Miracles 2-1 5-0
R6: 4c Loam 1-2 5-1
R7: Grixis Delver 1-2 5-2 (a strangely timed surgical won it for him)
R8: DnT 0-2 5-3 :( (same guy as Friday, mulled to a bad 5 g1 and massacre vs no plains g2)
R9: Hypergenesis 2-0 6-3
Sunday Day-2 Main Event: 10-4-1
R10: Lands 2-0 7-3
R11: 4c Loam 2-0 8-3
R12: 4c Loam 2-1 9-3
R13: Burn 2-0 10-3
R14: UR Delver 1-2 10-4 :(
R15: BUG Delver, split the top-64 and scooped as he needed pro points
Played with 6 discard, 15 lands, 1 DP, 1 top, 2 Preordain, 1 pif, empty main. SB was:
4 Decay
1 Grip
1 Top
1 Chain
2 Hurkyl's
2 Massacre
1 Carpet
1 Swarm
1 Tendrils
1 Ad Nauseam
And I upgraded some of my goblins! (didn't manage to get everyone, but it's a start - better picture http://www.4gp.me/ba3s/1465853448452.jpg )
http://www.4gp.me/ea3s/1465853448452.jpg
Still impressed with Kai's. Made me feel so useless haha
https://www.twitch.tv/magic is replaying the epic 3rd game right now if you happen to be browsing.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=SPitPk...ature=youtu.be
Its also now on you tube. Where you can see in g2 where I misscount and decay one time I dont need to (I thought I would got so and extra turn).
And g3 after he snap surgicals. I have the kill just casting tendrills and paying for 5 flusters but I was into the plan of finding a led, rain of filth, decay, grip, fluster or second tendrills and even I had him at 10 life in my notepad I just missed it and went for all this cantrip line where I could have missed the win (had a lot of outs, but sometimes luck is not there always) and loose.
But still a nice game of beating 2 fluster, 2 fow, surgical and caster.
Thanks to everyone for beeing cheering for me!
So did I read correctly that all Storm players dodged Eldrazi this GP?
(Also, it's interesting how this is reverse-Lille - everyone made day two there, nobody did in Prague.)
It is because you guys said: "Eldrazi? Let us hope, we can simply dodge this deck!" :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
My friend Lukas (missed Top8 at his last Game) ran into 1 Eldrazi deck (and beat it) Day 1. But yeah i guess Togores (Congrats!) simply lead the field and all Eldrazi (15 at top100) only saw his back and were unable to catch the Master of Storm.
The Eldrazi count between the six players in my travelling group was 3, 3, 0, 0, 0, 0. Completely ridiculous. (I didn't play Storm, but I faced Eldrazi three times.)
Playing 0 eldrazi was really lucky. Expected to play 2 or so. Was surrounded by them. But like always to win a big event you have to be really lucky in a lot of spots. Also I saw most decks really prepared for eldrazi and not for storm. Like 3 sb cards only or so. Also from round 11 or so. There was just one or may be two eldrazis on the ~10 first tables. Just players hated a lot against and that payed of for me when I got to the top.
Better lucky than good :D
As I said on facebook: You got lucky and made the best of it, really happy for you. I remember being surrounded by Miracles day two, was your experience similar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
I think I might have been your round 7 opponent. If so, we didn't really have much of a match. :( I hope I didn't do anything to put you on tilt.Quote:
Originally Posted by CabalTherapy
I think it was a Scot. No, the match was fine. I mean I had no play in game 1 and then mulliganed into oblivion in the second. That's how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergblaster
You're too humble Togores. I'm sure we could compile a long list of actions you took throughout the course of the tournament and the days, weeks, months, and years prior that put you in a position to do very well. Luck also plays a role but you'd never be in the position to get so lucky without those preparations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Togores
I'm curious, when, if ever, storm has taken the top prize at a GP.
Storm took the first place at GP Ghent wich was about 5 years ago
Wanna read my report?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sloshthedark
Rodrigo, I just wanted to add that I'm very pleased that a storm player with your attitude won. It's great to see an individual in your position still acknowledging where they could improve and being humble - I hope it continues to serve you well in your life. Many of the other consistent performing storm players people look up to in our community serve as poor role models to other players due to their arrogance and poor integrity with the rules of the game.
Also, I switched from TES to ANT about 8 months ago, after having played TES for 4.5 years. You were a strong influence in that decision and I haven't looked back.
Congratulations on an excellent performance.
I definitely see Storm players being arrogant (myself included) but integrity with the rules of the game? That's a very bold statement that you have to elaborate on.Quote:
Originally Posted by vercadium
Yeah that was me. Unlucky man. I had similar problems on Day 2; mulliganed lots against Shardless and Burn and got beat up by Floch on Miracles. Pity there aren't more Legacy GPs to redeem ourselves!Quote:
Originally Posted by CabalTherapy
I think he means that Wizards doesn't want palyers to cast so many spells in one round: "Go and play, DnT, guys, ah and SCG says you should splash for Nahiri!" That's the only senseful interpretation of his statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
In a way, Storm demands a certain type of player who might be regarded as "arrogant" but well...
It was nice to meet you; crap you didn't do better the next day. Well well, next year or the other eternal events. You know, the luck...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergblaster
All in all, I have to say that I was kind of surprised by the amount of Shardless I saw and Show and Tell based decks being everywhere as well (at least day1). I wasn't really testing these two MUs and expected to face Eldrazi/Elves(or other non-U junk)/Delver/Miracles but dodged 3 of them, which wasn't great in
the case of Miracles and Elves(read turn 2 otp fishing deck) since I was well prepared for Miracles.
Shout out to my mirror match opponent at GP Columbus who fucked up his go-off turn and shamefully passed the turn, watched me walk into* a Flusterstorm, then got me on the next turn anyway.
* I could have played around it slightly by going for Past in Flames instead of Tendrils, but it turned out that it wouldn't have mattered.
I guess I've heard it already...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer
my reaction exactly, can't really find CT's interpretation in it...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
I think that it's some sort of a dig at me. Not that I'm denying that I'm a bit arrogant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonathan Alexander
Congrats on the win, Togores. I'm curious, at 1:00:35 in the video (when Past in Flames resolves after the second Surgical Extraction), you have 2 mana floating, 4 untapped lands, and Lion's Eye Diamond and Tendrils of Agony in hand. Tholance has only 10 life at that point, and the storm count is 5. Why not just tap two lands and play Tendrils right then? Tholance will have to use his Top to draw Flusterstorm and counter. Then, you can play LED, tap another land, and flash Tendrils back again. I suppose you don't know for sure that Tholance has Flusterstorm on top of his deck, but I can't imagine what he could have that would disrupt playing Tendrils twice in a row.
Because Tendrils cast after PiF can't be flashed back (unless you flashback PiF first)? I haven't gone back and watched this sequence exactly but from what you are describing thats what you are attempting to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by andy