[Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by gonyoda

Yeah my list plays one more city and one less mox...and the extra duress and thoughtseize in my main are xantids in his...so pretty close. But what I was losing to was A) charbelcher winning the dice roll and B) a lil bad luck in the clutch round. But other than that its been good. I can't count the number of times I've gone against maindeck hate and eye of nowhere has been there for me. I've personally never killed with grapeshot cause anytime I could the other person would scoop before the grapeshot was even an idea in my head haha.


The land stability is eh. I've noticed that the extra land makes me draw a lot of lands, but then one time I hadto go off without a land. So its back and forth.

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So lack of explosiveness is definitely an issue with your list, since in my playtesting, belcher has never beaten me if he went off and hasn't belched me on the same turn. TES is probably only half a turn behind at most and can win if you really need to on the turn facing down 18 Goblin Tokens or an inactive Goblin Charbelcher.

Furthermore, I think all lists are slight variations of Bryant's list. You really can't move too much in a storm combo deck save the few cantrips and mana slots and choice of protection.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

Eye of Nowhere has never been useful. It's for nothing but showboating, and I know about showboating...

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I've always wanted to try Eye of Nowhere but never got around to it. I guess it's just not too important.

Hi,

as a control player i wanted to ask you what´s the best card to name with Meddling Mage against TES. Does Meddling Mage cause some difficulties for you at all?

It isn't too bad on its own, but Meddling Mage combined with counters as backup can be pretty devastating. I remember a discussion I had with some guys in the past, and we figured out that naming Burning Wish was usually the correct play. I could be wrong about that though.

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Originally Posted by Eventide

Hi,

as a control player i wanted to ask you what´s the best card to name with Meddling Mage against TES. Does Meddling Mage cause some difficulties for you at all?

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I created the deck years ago to win around Meddling Mage, I'd try something better against us. Probably Cannonist.

Re: Eye of Nowhere - Only time I ever should have used it was when an Enchantress player, played turn 2 Runed Halo naming Tendrils. However, EoN would have been low style, so instead I wished for Diminishing Returns, into AdN, into Grapeshot for 23...

anyone here going to starcity Richmond? I am and will be piloting TES.

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Originally Posted by lorddotm

I got to live the dream once. He had two lands in play, and I EoN, then Iggy, and EoN his other land.

Literally the only time I've ever cast it, but it was the nut.

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You, sir, are my hero. IGGing back the EoN gets you super bonus points; the fact that you had UUUU floating around to waste on EoN twice is just pro.

But yeah, as far as actually using eye of nowhere for a purpose other than showboating...it's not good. It's only really an awesome spell for showboating though when you EoN their land or something worthless just because you can.

So, due to being very busy professionally I hadn't entered a real life tournament since 9 months or so. (God bless cockatrice)

Yesterday I participated in a qualifier for Belgian Nationals, 79 people showed. I played TES to a mediocre 5-2 finish and a 11th place.
Lost to nut drawing reanimator and "I have 15 hate cards for combo in side" BUGstill.

Some observations:
- mental misstep didn't kill this deck.
- more and more rockish builds emerge to win the mystic vs mystic battle. Less fow, more fun for us.
- xantid remains a powerhouse.
- most people don't expect combo anymore, the look on their faces when you kill them turn 2 is priceless.

Fun of the day:
I'm at 5 facing patriot. It's game 2, I killed him game 1 with grapeshot. He has 1 fow, 1 mm, 2 snare. He says: "no adn for you, so no grapeshot this time" I play out my hand, bait his counters, diminishing returns, drawing junk, only option is to iggy returning returns (he was at high life because of batterskull, so couldn't tendrils here yet), returns again drawing like a pro, burning wish for tendrils (storm 16, putting him at 1, me at 37), infernal, saccing some leds into adn, draw half my deck, grapeshot for 32. Good times. He was a nice guy though :wink:

edit: getting back EoN with ill gotten gains is flat out brilliant.

I picked up a third Japanese Foil Empty The Warrens and a second Japanese Foil Ad Nauseam. I'm going to try cutting the MD Warrens for the second Nauseam. It gets sided out a lot in the current metagame. I'm slightly hesitant because MD Warrens steals sooo many rounds where blue players decide to be greedy and wait to counter the business. However, there's also all of those times I draw it and I think sarcastically, "Great".

EDIT: Jupiter Games had a Japanese Foil Grapeshot in their case for 10$, they're welcome.

I was thinking the same after yesterday. Stupid batterskull made racing with tokens quite difficult and etw never was any good vs ichorid, zoo and other fast aggro.
Burning wish still gives us access to it G1, so why am I so hesitant to cut it? Damn, that card has won me so many matches I'm emotionally attached to it.:confused:

I've been playing with the second AN main decked for a while and I couldn't be happier with it.

Doesn't the possibility to play EtW T1 off an IT + 4 mana justify to keep it in the MD? Especially on the play against blue decks, before they are able to brainstorm into any sort of denial..

I have cutted the MD EtW for the Second Ad Nausean pos-NPh and it has been amazing, top 8'ed 3 from 3 tournaments since the change. EtW isn't very good with all these Deeds/Batterskulls around.
Also if Junk discard your 1° Adn you get the second one and dicipline them.

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

I picked up a third Japanese Foil Empty The Warrens and a second Japanese Foil Ad Nauseam. I'm going to try cutting the MD Warrens for the second Nauseam. It gets sided out a lot in the current metagame. I'm slightly hesitant because MD Warrens steals sooo many rounds where blue players decide to be greedy and wait to counter the business. However, there's also all of those times I draw it and I think sarcastically, "Great".

EDIT: Jupiter Games had a Japanese Foil Grapeshot in their case for 10$, they're welcome.

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Already made the switch, actually did it right after we talked about it. It's been really good.

I made this switch too and tested quite good, but depending on your meta I ' d recommend to change the ToA for ADN instead of EtW. The point is that When you are Going for ToA it normally doesn't matter if it is in the main or side because you play ToA off ADN or you just have the tools to make a big chain of tutors so normally you can go for a BW instead of IT, and EtW in the main seems more important for those explosive starts where you can just steal the game with IT/BW + LED in the oppening.

Greetings,

Iñaki.-

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Originally Posted by egosum

I made this switch too and tested quite good, but depending on your meta I ' d recommend to change the ToA for ADN instead of EtW. The point is that When you are Going for ToA it normally doesn't matter if it is in the main or side because you play ToA off ADN or you just have the tools to make a big chain of tutors so normally you can go for a BW instead of IT, and EtW in the main seems more important for those explosive starts where you can just steal the game with IT/BW + LED in the oppening.

Greetings,

Iñaki.-

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This is interesting. I think I'm going to try this.

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Originally Posted by egosum

I made this switch too and tested quite good, but depending on your meta I ' d recommend to change the ToA for ADN instead of EtW. The point is that When you are Going for ToA it normally doesn't matter if it is in the main or side because you play ToA off ADN or you just have the tools to make a big chain of tutors so normally you can go for a BW instead of IT, and EtW in the main seems more important for those explosive starts where you can just steal the game with IT/BW + LED in the oppening.

Greetings,

Iñaki.-

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Not sure why I haven't thought of this (me = dumb I guess), it makes perfect sense. Tendrils is usually the worst card in the deck for me to draw in an opener, unlike ETW. The one drawback I can see is that it makes the Burning Wish -> IGG play cost two more mana, but I rarely use that line of play anymore anyways. It also makes us more vulnerable to Extirpate targeting Burning Wish.

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Originally Posted by Admiral_Arzar

Not sure why I haven't thought of this (me = dumb I guess), it makes perfect sense. Tendrils is usually the worst card in the deck for me to draw in an opener, unlike ETW. The one drawback I can see is that it makes the Burning Wish -> IGG play cost two more mana, but I rarely use that line of play anymore anyways. It also makes us more vulnerable to Extirpate targeting Burning Wish.

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The only time I have ever wanted to draw Tendrils is against landstill variants where I have time to set up. This is usually in game 2 when they know what I'm playing, so ToA looks like the place to cut.

Extirpating burning wish means they have to counter it with a piece of countermagic or make you discard it. The discarding it due to duress or what not into extirpate on wish is unlikely IMO and if you suspect extirpate you board in the 1 tendrils for something.

But yeah there's nothing I hate more than drawing tendrils in storm combo, except when I'm facing landstill variants where you just cast it from hand after using their countermagic for storm. EtW is awkward against SFM batterskull if you don't get it turn 1 on the play and they go SFM into batterskull.

Actual core:
1- Ad
1- EtW
1- Tendrils

Other possibilities:

{***: No-Tendrils core)

(A)[more consistant]
2- AdN
1- Tendrils

(B)***
2- AdN
1- EtW

(C)***
3- AdN

(D)
1- AdN
1- Tendrils
1- Open Slot

(E)***
2- AdN
1- Open slot

(F)
1- AdN
1- Tendrils
1- Iggy

(G)***
1- AdN
2- EtW

I've already tried all minus the (G) core. IMO it's necessary to tendrils be in the deck. Sometimes you do not open the wishes with AdN , and you are too short on mana to get Tutor>Wish>Tendrils.

The (F) core isn't too bad if your meta game is running a low percentage of blue decks.

The (A) core is the way to go for now IMO.

(G) core is nice if you don't care about the lack of Tendrils in MD. And (E) is nice if you want to put more protec/ cantrip/ tutor(?)/Land/ Mox/ Cabal ritual in the deck. But I prefer to go for the (D) core in that case.

The (C) core is too greedy and suicidal.