Re: [Deck] Armageddon Stax
To be honest, I played the Queller :D Also the issue with the WW but he was the most effective for me out of the various WW beaters.
I'm not telling anyone not to play the good critters, more power to y', but it then it lacks with the consistency.
About the golem; he trades with most of the stuff that comes to my mind and the MUs that play Bolt are pretty much in our favour, except Goblins maybe...
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Fresh new from my aggro stax!
Top 3!
R1: Survival.
Atypical match. None played the best cards of each deck and i lost to a Q. pridemage and bad luck. 0-2. 0-0-1.
R2: Rgb Goblins
Nasty match for me. First match an aether vial @ 1 ate him...indeed!!
2nd: Lackey eaten by O-ring followed by trini, moat and magus + ggedon! GG man!!! 0-2. 1-0-1.
R3: 43 lands
Hard! Ggedon + Crucible > Loam + 43 lands??
Yep thia time. I run 2 Suppression field maindeck what was crucial. After a loooong match i won 1-0. 2-0-1.
R4: Storm combo
This matchshould be cool. And it was!!
Chalice @ 1 + Mindscensor was hard for him. Then glowrider post side + trini ate him!! 2-0. 3-0-1.
Decklist:
// Lands
3 [TSP] Flagstones of Trokair
5 [5E] Plains (1)
4 [EX] City of Traitors
3 [TE] Wasteland
4 [TE] Ancient Tomb
1 [LG] The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale
1 [LG] Karakas
// Creatures
4 [FUT] Aven Mindcensor
4 [10E] Windborn Muse
4 [ON] Exalted Angel
2 [UD] Academy Rector
// Spells
3 [FD] Crucible of Worlds
4 [ALA] Oblivion Ring
4 [MR] Chalice of the Void
4 [DS] Trinisphere
3 [PT] Armageddon
4 [MR] Chrome Mox
1 [LG] Moat
2 [RAV] Suppression Field
// Sideboard
SB: 1 [RAV] Suppression Field (somebody said linvala here??)
SB: 2 [10E] Aura of Silence
SB: 2 [OD] Sphere of Law
SB: 1 [8E] Ivory Mask
SB: 3 [TSB] Tormod's Crypt
SB: 3 [LE] Glowrider
SB: 3 [PLC] Magus of the Tabernacle
Any suggstions for the s. Field slots??
Comments??
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Hello, i'm new here.
I play stax deck, and i'm testing Black and white.
Here is my list
Lands 25
4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
3 Wasteland
4 Plains
4 Scrubland
3 Flagstones of Trokair
1 Horizon Canopy
1 Karakas
1 Nomad Stadium
1 The Tabernacle at pendrell vale
Spells 30
4 Mox Diamond
4 Chalice of the void
3 Trinisphere
2 Engineered Explosives
3 Crucible of Worlds
4 Armageddon
4 Ghostly Prison
3 Vindicate
3 Story Circle
Creatures 5
3 Magus of the Tabernacle
2 Baneslayer Angel
I dont use Misha Factory because i need white mana (and black for the vindicate)
I use Vindicate instead of Oblivion ring, because i can destroy basic lands
I use Explosives because sometimes i cant play a chalice@2 or @1 before my opponent plays some cards with that cost, but i destroy the cards with my explosives and then cast the chalices
I dont use suppression field (i have 3 in the sideboard) becasuse it doesnt work well against some decks, and sometimes is bad for me. For example a Merfolk deck have little problem about the fields, and stax / merfolk is near 50% 50%
I love Story Circle (even if i must pay WW1 to cast it) Against zoo choose green or red, against merfolk blue, against goblin red, against... is a great card
I use Leyline of the void in the sideboard (great against loam decks) and bojuka.
I play white stax 1-2 years, and i changed to black - white a few days ago.
My first test is against zoo. And if nothing strange happens you win 2-1 easily (a lot of games in the test)
What do you think about my deck? Any feedback?
Thanks in Advance
Re: [Deck] Armageddon Stax
What problems do you want to solve with black?
I never saw the point of using a second color :D It makes the manabase unstable (ok, my old man once said: If for bad luck, you wouldn't have any.) and you're just using it for shenanigans.
The second color for EE is also available with the Mox.
But if it works for you, go for it! ;)
@Golden: The Mindcensor looks tasty.
So long
PS: The only time I was tempted to go W/b was when I saw Staxx with Smallpox; at the same time my old man told me about my luck.
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yeah the black seems kind of pointless. vindicate is not a good reason to weaken the deck by removing factories.
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What does the community think about SUN TITAN, I think this card could be good enough for stax. thoughts?
sun titan
creature-giant
vigilance
when suntitan enters the battlefield or attacks you may return a permanet with converted mana cost up to three from your graveyard to battlefield
A blazing sun that never sets
6/6
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If you are running Aven Mindcensor: Ghost Quarter seems like the way to roll as it is almost a Strip Mine.
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The Sun Titan costs WWW. Case closed ;)
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silentstack
The Sun Titan costs WWW. Case closed ;)
False, it's 4WW.
@Vesper: right i will try it, but i'm not pretty convinced. Any experience??
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nobody has stated whether they think that it would be any good, for recursion of prison pieces or wastelands...
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Moduloc
nobody has stated whether they think that it would be any good, for recursion of prison pieces or wastelands...
Didn`t understantd...
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My first thoughts on sun titan for stax. I think it could be very useful, first of, it could be your 5th-8th crucible of worlds... It blocks and it attacks at the same time...Which is very useful forstax. Everytime it attacks you get a free lock piece back.. He returns countered/destroyed trinispheres , crucibles and lock(aura of silence,supression fields) pieces back to play.He has very good synergy with smokestack, wasteland and armageddon. Actually I think he has good synergy with the whole deck.
Although you may say he is quite slow, 6 mana is quite easy to reach with our mana base. Although he doesn't help the deck with consistency issues, it has always been a problem of stax that we rely on our opening hand too much.
I think however with a new build of stax he may be quite viable.. Something that could involve tangle wires, powder kegs or the likes.
Definitely a card that is worthy of testing at the least. A new stax build, could arise to be able to abuse his abilities.
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I like the idea of recuring tangle wire, that could be super sexy.
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Does Grim Monolith get a slot in the deck now that it's unbanned?
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What would you want to cut?
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silentstack
What would you want to cut?
Not sure, I don't really play the deck much but am interested in starting up.
On one hand, it seems like it would power early Trinispheres and CotV at 2 and Smoketacks much more reliably, as well as dropping early Maguses and Armaggeddons, but on the other hand, it's a nonbo with Supression Field after the first bit of acceleration.
Seems to me like the biggest problem with Stax is its dependence on an explosive opening (with the correct lock pieces) and its lack of removal, which Grim Monolith doesn't seem to address.
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lordofthepit
Does Grim Monolith get a slot in the deck now that it's unbanned?
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Originally Posted by
lordofthepit
which Grim Monolith doesn't seem to address.
You answered the question yourself :D
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silentstack
You answered the question yourself :D
But Monolith *does* answer both of those problems, at least indirectly. It helps you power out your lock pieces (especially Trinisphere), and it allows for earlier Angels/Maguses, which are basically the same thing as removal. Admittedly, it isn't *itself* a removal spell or lock piece, but if you're worried about that, just run more Oblivion Rings and/or a couple of copies of Sphere of Resistance.
The real problem with Monolith is that it costs 2 to play, and thus potentially clashes with Chalice of the Void.
For what it's worth, I took Geddon Stax to the Legacy 5K on Sunday and went 3-3 with it. I beat Zoo, Reanimator, and ANT and lost to Reanimator, Goblins, and Merfolk. (I had exceedingly bad draws against the last two decks.) It turned out to have been a very good metagame call, as the top 16 was dominated by aggro decks. I just got a bit unlucky.