Temporary Solitaire got the most votes against it in the main poll, so I don't think we should go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
But B is at +1 now.
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Temporary Solitaire got the most votes against it in the main poll, so I don't think we should go there.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
But B is at +1 now.
Idem than FTW and Silkster.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
If maxx! doesn't respond in time, based on his past deck choices and the round rule I think we could guess a good maxx! entry to use...Quote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
That's actually quite hard, maxx! is rather versatile.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Sorry for the delay. Sending in something quick
Someone's ready for the haste round!Quote:
Originally Posted by maxx!
There it is, so let's go!
DECKS FOR ROUND 1 OF SEASON 10: Deviant Legacy Bannathon
This round we play Pillow Fight: Creatures have indestructible and hexproof.
The entries:
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
You can also enter your scores in the Google Spreadsheet for the season which you can find here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing
EDIT:
Since our vote about the Mythic round is now at just +1 for B, I'll allow voting to continue.
Reminder: here's what we're voting for:
A: Swap Mythic Mayhem round for All Creatures have Haste round
B: Move Mythic Mayhem up in the schedule so there's a ton of mythics still legal
C: Both plans are bad, I want something else
D: No opinion, TO should do what he thinks best
Currently we're at:
5x B, 4x A and a few "Asthereal you figure it out" 's.
Also 3 people want Temporary Solitaire instead of Mythic Mayhem, but a massive 7 people voted against Temp Sol in the pre-season poll, so I'm not doing that. :tongue:
Asthereal's scores for round 1:
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
So I chose the idea of -1/-1 counters being able to kill indestructible threats. And I chose an in-between version of the fast and the triple threat versions that were possible. Looks pretty bad I must say.
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
You can shuffle back and re-use Smallpox. Let's see if I'm fast enough OTP: elf / bog // 2nd elf, Invig for 5 poison / Pox, I keep one elf, you disc Kozi, shuffle back Pox, Bog, Koz // 6 poison / draw Koz // 7p / draw Pox // 8p / draw Bog, play Bog // 9p / Pox FTW. Crap. 0-6
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
A Verdict a turn makes the butt burn. 0-6
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
Quite big Elf blocks really big Elf, both die because of -1/-1 counters. I have a threat remaining to kill you. 6-0
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
I don't know how to play bridge. 0-6
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
Moon is bad against me, but so is Warboss. I keep one Elf back, with Invig up. -1/-1 counters will kill your guys, while mine live. I can safely attack with one Elf and win. 6-0
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
Three elves beats two elves, just like two beat one. Maybe I should have gone for this version. 0-6
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
I can pay for one Elf. My one elf is faster than your Nexus because of Invig. Blocking with the 0-3 just kills it in 3 turns because of -1/-1 counters. I think I win this whichever way you play it. 6-0
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
OTD Balance is fast enough, OTP it's not, but Footfalls is also slow and I can draw it. Math in my post two pages forward. 1-4
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
Quite big Elf blocks really big Elf, both die because of -1/-1 counters. I have a threat remaining to kill you. 6-0
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
I did some math and I think we have a staredown. I can do some damage, but you just only attack after I attack, and you're slightly faster than me. But if I keep back both elves, you can't win. 2-2 for now, but I'll check this some more tomorrow, when I have more time.
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
Same as against Gobbo. 2-2
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
I don't play anything until you Pox. If you do, I discard Elf and Invig. Then I play Forest, cast Elf. I can eternally block if I want, but I get the first attack in, which means I would win the race. So you don't play Pox and we end up not doing anything at all. 2-2
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
A Verdict a turn makes the butt burn. 0-6
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
Two removals. Ugh. 0-6
Total for now: 31 points. That's quite bad, but not as bad as I had feared.
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
I liked the idea of being able to go wide, or pushing the obvious sacrifice button. Fortunately not too many opponents are attacking my mana...
vs
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate // 6-0
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth // 0-6
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk // 3-3
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs // 3-3
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss // 0-6
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf // 6-0
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus // 6-0
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood // 0-6
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest // 3-3
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens // 0-6
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens // 0-6
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit // 0-6
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict // 3-3 Gather outspeeds Verdict or Wail
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict // 6-0
36 Points
maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2 edicts is enough to win this one. 6-0
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Can't beat this at all. 0-6
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
Also can't beat this. 0-6
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
Innocent Blood takes this one. 6-0
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
Nice deck. Can't beat it. 0-6
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
I can beat Magus, but not the Warboss. Nice deck. 0-6
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
Well, I'm sure I can't lose this one. The question is can I win. I think I can. OTD you play Elf, then I play Blood. You play another Elf, then I play Edict. You play your last Elf, then I attack with Inkmoth. I win that race. 6-0
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
Welcome! Tabernacle seems not so good this round, since it (surprisingly) is a destroy effect and not a sacrifice. Regardless, I can't ever get past your Inkmoth with mine. Inkmoths stare. 2-2
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
Blegh. Restore Balance just crushes me. Nice deck. 0-6
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
Innocent Blood is enough. 6-0
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
I was prepared to lose this one. 0-6
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
I was less prepared to lose it a second time. Almost played it myself. Wish I had. 0-6
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
I think I can draw here? If I just hold all 4 cards until you Pox, then I keep my 2 lands and can block Nether Spirit forever. 2-2
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
The verdict is in: you win. 0-6
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
This is me :]
6+0+0+6+0+0+6+2+0+6+0+0+2+0 = 28
Not a good start to the season, but I forgot about 4CB until like 8 hours *past* the deadline, so I'm just lucky Asthereal waited for me to submit at all. Should have gone with EtW. Glad I didn't jam Glistener Elf.
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
I expected Infect and went with T1 Pox over T2 Smallpox (too slow OTD vs Infect and Goblins). But I missed how easy it is to draw against Nether Spirit in this round, while Smallpox at least allows a proactive threat. Miscalculation.
1. Asthereal (TO): If you play Elf then Pox wins, but if I Pox first then your Elf holds off Spirit and we stare. You don't want to try to race because we start at 13 life so Spirit kills first, but you can just defend. DD 2-2
2. jhhdk: You can always recover with Kozilek no matter when I Pox. LL 0-6
3. PJim: Pox destroying your land or removing 2 cards from hand wins this. WW 6-0
4. alphastryk: Same as Asthereal. DD 2-2
5. Wrath of Pie: OTP Pox takes 2 cards. You can keep City and Tongs, but Spirit races that. OTD you can play T1 Bridge, which I can't beat, but Pox can take Tongs to draw. WD 4-1
6. Serguei: OTP Pox takes 2 cards and you can't cast anything. OTD you play T1 Warboss. Pox kills only the token. Warboss lives and goes wide around Spirit. WL 3-3
7. H: Same as Asthereal. DD 2-2
8. mattamort: Tabernacle is awkward when all creatures are indestructible. OTP I Pox. You keep Urborg and Vampire, able to block Spirit but not win. OTD playing something is worse for you so you just wait for me to Pox. DD 2-2
9. silkster: Ah, this is the proactive Pox deck I was looking for with an answer to T1 Elf. I Pox. You discard Balance and Blood, then suspend Footfalls. I need 7 attacks to win and Rhinos resolve before that. LL 0-6
10. Reeplcheep: Same as Asthereal. DD 2-2
11. GoblinSmashmaster: OTP Pox takes out too many resources. OTD you make 8 goblins. I Pox, killing 3 goblins and bringing us to 13, then your 5 goblins smash around Nether Spirit. WL 3-3
12. dte: OTP Pox takes out your hand. OTD 5 goblins are enough to smash. WL 3-3
14. Tylert: OTP I Pox and you keep City + Wail, then make a 1/1 to stare down Nether Spirit. OTD if you play Scepter I Pox and kill your land, but you can hold up Warping Wail forever to counter Pox and we draw. DD 2-2
15. maxx!: If you ever play a land, I Pox and win. If you do nothing, I could Pox but you keep Swamp and Inkmoth and can stare down Nether Spirit (but not race in the air). DD 2-2
33 points (6 wins, 15 draws, 7 loss)
@silkster: This is the Pox deck I was looking for, with a proactive threat that tramples through a blocker but also an answer to T1 Elf. Well done.
Edit: corrected matchup vs Tylert.
Well, I was right that Pox would stop most decks from winning, but I forgot to win myself.
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
1. Asthereal: OTP, I can geth verdict your two elves before you do anything. OTD, you'll be able to inflict 6 poison couter before dying. 6-0 --> 6
2. jhhdk: OTP, I can play scepter on warp wail to counter pox and/or make a 1/1 at the end of each turn. I'll be able to make more tokens than you. If I play scepter, you use pox. If I hold warp wail, I can counter pox once and kill some 1/1 but pox will eventually come back to your hand. 3-3 --> 9
3. PJim: Whoever goes first wins. 3-3 --> 12
4. Alphastryk: OTP I can make you sac your elf. OTD you are 1 turn to fast. 3-3 --> 15
5. Wrath of pie: whoever goes first win. 3-3 --> 18
6. Serguei: you play war boss and you will allways have fodder for verdict. 0-6 --> 18
7. H: Scepter sacrifices all your dudes. 6-0 --> 24
8. mattamort: Geth's verdict kills all your win conditions. 6-0 --> 30
9. silkster: I have all the time to set up geth's verdict on scepter and counter restore balance with wail. I'll take at max 12 damage from rhinos. 6-0 --> 36
10. Reeplcheep: Whoever plays first wins. 3-3 --> 39
11. Goblinsmash master: OTP, I can counter rite of flames number 1 and win, so you do nothing and we stare. OTD, you make 8 tokens and I die :) 1-4 --> 40
12. dte: same as above. 1-4 --> 41
13. FTW: OTP, I can leave mana up to counter pox. of course, you play nothing. otd, you can pox if you do I keep wail and make a token to draw. 2-2 --> 43
14. Me.
15. maxx!: Verdict on scepter kills your wincon and wins. 6-0 --> 49
Total 49.
FTW and PJim plz check my analysis.
Gather the townfolks is unfortunately a sorcery.Quote:
Originally Posted by PJim
Same player shoot again.
If I keep wail and city in hand I can make a 1/1 that will block spirit forever... so we draw. 2-2Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Lets see how my zero effort poison deck does! (spoiler: not well, everyone thought of it).
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
More poison elves. LL
0-6
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
OTP I kill you before Peat Bog untaps, OTD Smallpox means I can't win. WL
3-3
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
OTP I kill you before you can use Scepter to Verdict. OTD Verdict does it. WL
3-3
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
This is me, on fast poison.
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
I cannot default the Bridge. EDIT: It turns out I can sneak under the bridge when I'm OTP. WL
3-3
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
OTP, you're forced to play out a blocker to not die, but I can Invigorate to kill it leaving me with a threat.W
OTD your best plan is to play Warboss precombat to make two creatures, but its not enough because Warboss has to block and it plays out the same since my creature wins in combat and never dies. EDIT: I missed that an old token can be the blocker every turn, so the best I can do is Invigorate to kill the Warboss when it attacks, turning it into a staring contest. D
4-1
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
Even more poison elves. LL
0-6
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
OTP: You play Neonate to block, I Invigorate to kill it. After that, you're able to leave up Inkmoth to force a draw (I win the race if we attack) D
OTD: You play out Neonate turn 1, I play my Elf. You play Inkmoth and are able to be the first one to attack this time, which along with blocking with Neonate is enough to put you 2 turns ahead in the race. (Berserk would catch me up only 1 turn so its not enough. I also can't Berserk your Inkmoth to kill it due to the indestructible rule). L
1-4
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
Innocent Blood. LL
0-6
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
Same number of elves. Stare. DD
2-2
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Too many blockers. LL
0-6
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
Too many blockers. LL
0-6
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
I can hold my Elf to force a draw no matter who does first. DD
2-2
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
OTP I'm too fast for Scepter-Verdict, and you can't just sit on Wail forever (Invigorate counters it if you try to kill with either mode). W
OTD I can't beat Scepter-Verdict. L
3-3
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
Innocent Blood. LL
0-6
21 points total. Ouch.
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
A round for the gobbos!
I hesitated with Liliana / nether spirit, fast dreadnough, and plague engineer.
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2-2, I had factored in the 1-elf MU, not the 2 elfs one.
2
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
6-0, I am too fast
8
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
6-0, too fast. Also, gather does not work well with scepter..
14
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
6-0. I always keep 1 gob and attack with 7 (14), 6 (9), 5 (4), 5.
20
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
0-6. Gobs get to die of old age...
20
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
6-0, it's basically the same as infect for me. Winning the gob mirror!
26
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
0-6 I guess? was not expecting double elf, certainly not triple one. Engineer would have been good.. If I draw vs 2 elves, I lose to three.
26
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
6-0. Not the ideal round for tabernacle. Should do better next round ;)
32
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
6-0. That's slow?
38
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
6-0. The infect I expected.
44
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
2-2. I would like to say great minds think alike, if I hadn't just stolen your deck :)
46
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
me
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
3-3. Close to my first choice, except I would have run lili of the veil.
49
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
4-1. Wail works only if not imprinted.
53
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
6-0, gobs are fast.
59
OTP you should go T2 win?Quote:
Originally Posted by alphastryk
Should be WL.
GoblinPillowMaster Results for Round "Pillow Fight"
Pillow Fight: Creatures have indestructible and hexproof.
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2 blockers 2-2
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Goblin smash! 6-0
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
Goblin smash! 6-0
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
Goblin smash! 6-0
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
I shall not pass 0-6
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
Goblin smash goblin! 6-0
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
edit: 2 blockers + 1 attacker :( 0-6
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
Indestructible goblin smash! 6-0
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
Goblin smash! 6-0
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
Goblin smash! 6-0
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
That's me smashing with Goblins!!
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
That's you smashing with Goblins :( 2-2
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
Pox 3-3
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
Wail 4-1
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
Goblin smash! 6-0
Total: 59 points
Wow, awkward first round.
I always thought tabernacle was a sac ability, but I never played legacy.
I thought much more Bridge deck would be played. I initially submitted a bridge.dek with neonate before making the swap :). Brillant since Bridge was a good deck!
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
0-6 : Can not deal with two infect menace
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
0-6 : Can not deal with recursive Pox
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
0-6 : Can not beat Recursive Verdict
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
4-1 OTP, I block elf with nexus, -1-1 kills both of them. Neonate wins the race
OTD Chump then chump and elf dies
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
6-0 : Neonate drains you to death
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
0-6 OTD, Moon I died. OTP, I lead with neonate. You have to play warboss since moon is blocked forever.
Tr2 I play Nexus, Tr2 you attack with 2 2/2 and 1/1, I block with 2 among warboss (-1-1 counter) is 1/1 20-19
Tr3 I play Tabernacle, Tr3 you can not attack with warboss so with 2 2/2 and a 1/1, I block 1/1 with nexus, 20-17 EOT drain you 1 life 19-18
Repeat this turn until I die because we lose 1 life each turn and you start with higher total
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
0-6 : Can not deal with three infect menace
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
0-6 You combo me
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
4-1 OTP, I block elf with nexus, -1-1 kills both of them. Neonate wins the race
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
0-6 Tabernacle does nothing
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
0-6 Tabernacle does nothing
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
2-2 I do nothing, If you move, I discard
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
0-6 : Can not beat Recursive Verdict
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
2-2 : Nexus Mirror
24 Points \o/
I assume alpha saw the Bridge comes down on T1 but missed that 1/1 Elf can still attack for 10 through Bridge while Tongs is in hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by dte
Good choice. Had I thought more about how much easier it is for Nether Spirit to stare in this format, I might have gone for Lili instead. It lets you be proactive while still being able to remove creatures after, while reactive Pox gets stuck drawing.Quote:
Originally Posted by dte
I thought the LD would be important vs decks like Energy Field, Isochron Scepter, or Bridge-Tongs but Lili is better vs Infect. I thought there would be more control to stop Empty and Infect, but people played to the spirit of the round instead.
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate WW
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth <--- ME
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk WW
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk WL
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs DL
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss LL
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf WW
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus WW
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood apparantly WWpretty sure its WL
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest WL
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens looks like LL, I think you're too fast for me
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens looks like LL, I think you're too fast for me
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit WW
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict WLWWnote to self: Read The Cards!
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict WW
Me: silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate WD
Well, I was expecting one Glistener Elf... On the play, RB->IB->CF is fast enough. On the draw, that plan is 1 turn too slow. But I can lead on Footfalls, IB one elf, and get my rhinos down after taking 4 hits. At that point, you can't push enough damage in without dying on the crack back.
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth LL
I was down on this match because I don't win in "The Long Haul", but I can clear your resources and make 8 trampling power on turn 7 and I get 3 free attacks while you draw your cards back in the wrong order ending with a tapland.
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk edit: WW
You get either 6 or 7 turns and you deal 0+0+1+3+5+7+9 on those turns, which means play/draw is the breaker.
Edit: Gather is a sorcery. You know, when read this deck, I was like "Geth's Verdict is a sorcery that costs BW. How are you going to cast it?" And I was so confused but by the time I figured it out, I just missed the Townsfolk part.
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk WW
I appreciate that Berserk has a shot at making it under a bridge, while Scale Up does not.
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs LL
I considered this, and it seems like it would have been a much better choice.
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss LL
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf WL
You have exactsies on the play.
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus DD
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, ForestWW
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the WarrensLL
Somehow, I did not see this coming.
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens LL
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit WW
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict LL
It's like this was specifically designed to beat me. :frown:
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict WW
12W, 3D, 13L for 39 points.
Thanks! :smile: Unfortunately, I don't think our strategy was great here. I think Bridge is where I wanted to be. I was worried about T1 Elf, and I briefly considered playing two Glistener Elves, but somehow I didn't consider that other people might as well. I didn't play Bridge cause I thought Infect would be the fast version.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
My gauntlet featured a bunch of other perennial decks that would have done better than this one. I was originally against the bannathon aspect of this season, but I'm glad to see stuff like Bridge go.
Funny, cause I thought Berserk over Scale Up was a careful choice. :laugh:Quote:
Originally Posted by dteOTP you should go T2 win?Quote:
Originally Posted by alphastryk
Should be WL.
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate WW
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth WD
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk WL
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk WL - Infect is good.
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss DL
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf WW
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus LL - Too bad Tabernacle is a blank this round.
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood WW
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest WL
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens WW
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens WW
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit DL
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict WL
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict WW
17w3d = 54 points
I spent way too long trying to break Magus of the Tabernacle (which wasn't updated like Tabernacle was to capture original intent, fun fact!), then I realized that Ensnaring Bridge was just way better. (Also banning it round 1 is definite upside.)
My mental metagame for the next round is hilarious, but I won't say much more because I don't want to ruin it.
Plz check my analysis.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhhdk
When i'm OTP, I can imprit wail and counter pox whenever you cast it and make more 1/1 than you because you will allways get peat bog last. WL.
I had Pox/small pox in mind but yeah this wrecks you. I really thought we woukld see a little bit more of crashing footfalls.Quote:
Originally Posted by silkster
6. Serguei: City of traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Magus of the moon, Legion Warboss
1. Asthereal (TO): Forest, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Invigorate
2glistener is one too much for me :)
LL 0 pts
2. jhhdk: Peat Bog, Call the Bloodline, Smallpox, Kozilek, Butcher of Truth
Magus of the moon does everything
WW 6pts-> 6pts
3. PJim: City of Traitors, Isochron Scepter, Geth's Verdict, Gather the Townsfolk
Magus of the moon does everything
WW 6pts-> 12pts
4. alphastryk: Forest, Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Berserk
OTD I have to chump with warboss and loose
OTP I play war boss attack you for 1 with the token you go to 19
At your turn you play glistener and pass
at my t2 I attack with warboss and the new token leaving back the previous token.
You have to chump and invigorate to kill warboss you take 2 from the 2/2 tokenyou go to 17
Now if you attack I have not to block anymore and I can race you with my 1/1 and 2/2 so you rest in block and so do I
LD 1 pt -> 13 pts
5. Wrath of Pie: City of Traitors, Simian Spirit Guide, Ensnaring Bridge, Scalding Tongs
Magus does everything
WD 4 pts -> 17 pts
7. H: Cavern of Souls, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf, Glistener Elf
OTP magus avoid any glistener to enter the battlefield
OTD i cqnnot do anything
WL 3 pts -> 20 pts
8. mattamort: Vampire neonate, The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale, Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth, Inkmoth nexus
WW 6pts -> 26 pts
9. silkster: Gemstone Mine, Crashing Footfalls, Restore Balance, Innocent Blood WW
OTP magus avoid you to play any spell
OTD warbos is quick enough to finish you beofre balance resolves
WW 6pts -> 32 pts
10. Reeplcheep: Glistener Elf, Invigorate, Beserk, Forest
OTD I have to chump with warboss and loose
OTP I play war boss attack you for 1 with the token you go to 19
At your turn you play glistener and pass
at my t2 I attack with warboss and the new token leaving back the previous token.
You have to chump and invigorate to kill warboss you take 2 from the 2/2 tokenyou go to 17
Now if you attack I have not to block anymore and I can race you with my 1/1 and 2/2 so you rest in block and so do I
LD 1 pt -> 33 pts
11. GoblinSmashmaster: Lotus Petal, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
LL 0pts
12. dte: Lotus petal, Rite of flame, Rite of flame, Empty the warrens
LL 0pts
13. FTW: Swamp, Dark Ritual, Pox, Nether Spirit
OTP Warboss does the job pow will take only the created token
OTD you stole 2 cards from my hand and I cannot do anything
WL 3 pts -> 36
14. Tylert: City of traitors, Isochron scepter, Warping wail, Geth's verdict
Either magus or waerboss would do the job here
WW 6 pts -> 42 pts
15. maxx!: Swamp, Inkmoth Nexus, Innocent Blood, Diabolic Edict
Warboss is enough to eat you alive
WW 6 pts -> 48 pts
Not too bad for this recyced deck
EDIT: with the draw vs infect
Not entirely sure about this MU anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by silkster
OTP:
J: Peat Bog
S: Gemstone mine, Suspend crashing footfalls (4)
J: Smallpox
S: crashing footfalls (3)
J: Draw Kozi
S: crashing footfalls (2)
J: Draw Smallpox
S: crashing footfalls (1)
J: Draw Peatbog, Play peatbog
S: crashing footfalls (0), 2 x 4/4
J: Smallpox
S: Attack 1 x 4/4 16/20
J: Draw Kozi
S: Attack 1 x 4/4 12/20
J: Draw Smallpox
S: Attack 1 x 4/4 8/20
J: Draw Peatbog, Play peatbog
S: Attack 1 x 4/4 4/20
J: Smallpox
I win from here.
Not sure what happens OTP, I think you just win race. Restore balance is sort of irrelevant since you will not be allowed to stack triggers to your advantage since smallpox takes your land if you try.
You also win OTD, as you smallpox the turn after the rhinos get there both OTP and OTD.Quote:
Originally Posted by jhhdk
j OTD:
S: Gemstone mine, Suspend crashing footfalls (4)
J: Peat Bog
S: crashing footfalls (3)
J: Call the bloodline
S: crashing footfalls (2)
J: wait
S: crashing footfalls (1)
J: wait
S: crashing footfalls (0), 2 x 4/4
J: Smallpox (19/19), shuffle top Kozi, smallpox, bottom Peat Bog
S: attack 19/15
J: Draw Kozi
S: attack 19/11
J: Draw Smallpox
S: attack 19/7
J: Draw Peatbog, Play peatbog
S: attack 19/3
J: Smallpox 18/2
Win from there. Silkster cannot wait it out, as if he does not play anything and wait for you to lose peatbog to play a token, the token/shuffle of only 2 cards will make smallpox online before footfalls can resolve.
Silkster also cannot play restore balance first:
S: balance (6)
J: Peatbog
S: balance (5) --> cannot play footfalls or would have to sac the rhinos, and next turn gemstone would be lost to smallpox.
I had forgotten about the LD of Small Pox since I don't care about the discard. Then had hope that I there was a window. but the instant-speed aspect of Call is the clincher. Wrong "Activate this ability only..." sentence.Quote:
Originally Posted by dte
A couple results need verifying.
silkster vs Asthereal
silk has WD / Asthereal has LL
Quote:
Originally Posted by silkster
Quote:
Originally Posted by Asthereal
jhhdk vs Tylert
jhhdk has WW / Tylert has WL
Quote:
Originally Posted by jhhdk
I think Tylert is right here. WLQuote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
OTP T1 Warping Wail on Scepter is online fast enough. It can either counter Smallpox, exile a 1/1 token, or create an EOT token, so it can negate whatever jhhdk chooses to do. jhhdk can only Smallpox every 4 turns or make 2 tokens every 4 turns (library order is always the worse possible with Bog at the bottom), so Tylert will have tempo to create extra tokens and win.
OTD Smallpox kills the land before Scepter-Wail is online.
Sergeui vs alphastryk (and Reeplcheep)
Sergeui has DL / alphastryk has WW
Resolved: Serguei is right
Wrath of Pie vs mattamort
Wrath has WW / matt has WW
Resolved: mattamort is right
silkster vs mattamort
silkster has DD / mattamort has LL
Quote:
Originally Posted by silkster
I think mattamort is right. Tabernacle doesn't stop the Rhinos (indestructible).Quote:
Originally Posted by mattamort
Welcome to our group! I also expected more control like Bridge and Energy Field and played to beat it. Should have just played Bridge.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattamort
Quote:
Originally Posted by dte
Yep, that's it exactly! Forgot both my pump spells are instants so I can sneak under the bridge. Will update.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Serguei has this one right, I missed that an old token doesn't have to attack. Will update.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Cntl c cntl v my old deck gets that much points.Quote:
Originally Posted by alphastryk
Some disagreements.
5. We kill t2 OTP. WL 3-3
8. You don’t need to use invigorate to kill the blocker. Use the -1/-1 counters to kill it so you can threaten invigorate face, forcing the inkmoth to block. DD 2-2.
24 points.
mattamort is definitely right, life drain gets around Bridge nicely. (Too bad Tabernacle was a blank though.)Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
I saw this.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
I overlooked the fact that Restore Balance is quite slow and I might be able to race OTP, forcing silk to try for a draw by resolving Crash and ommitting Balance altogether.
I'll check the math soon.
Yeah somehow missed the counter mode of Warping Wail. will update my scoring post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
For next round, do we agree that a cost for an ability or a keyword can be paid with life too?
For example:
auriok transfixer's ability can be paid with life? or not?
don't steal auriok transfixer, i'm the one who discovered this card that is busted for this round!!
My understanding is that we can pay any cost's colored mana by using 2 life instead, no matter what type of cost that is - ability, mana cost etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
So yes, you could pay that with 2 life.
Pay 2 life, T: Tap target Chronomaton. I see your tech.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert
No, it's pay 2 life, T: Try to tap down Aether Vial and fail miserably.Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
The cost of chronomaton's ability is colorless. So no it doesn't work :)Quote:
Originally Posted by FTW
Exactly, the opponent cannot tap their Chronomaton to grow it but you can tap it so it can't attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tylert