18% on team america is pretty crazy tooQuote:
Originally Posted by twndomn
edit: seems like the stat actually clumps BUG delver and shardless bug
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18% on team america is pretty crazy tooQuote:
Originally Posted by twndomn
edit: seems like the stat actually clumps BUG delver and shardless bug
And one player worse than the other.
Its painful to watch.
35th. List was awesome. MUs were awkward. I didnt play well, so fuck it.
Greetings
Darn 3 spots from getting that trop :tongue:Quote:
Originally Posted by Einherjer
But in all seriousness, awesome performance! What was the meta like at the top tables? Any changes you'd make initially? I'm going to try out the list this weekend at a semi-large event, but I might change the counterspell in the board to a celestial purge or spell snare or something else depending on what the meta is shaping up to look like. I'm guessing the counterspell is there especially for the mirror, as it's a hard counter and a 2cmc for counterbalance.
Also, here are the 3 miracles lists that made top 8 at BoM:
Marcus Olsson (truckis123)
2 Vendilion Clique
4 Brainstorm
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Spell Snare
2 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
2 Ponder
2 Entreat the Angels
4 Terminus
4 Counterbalance
4 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Sensei's Divining Top
(8 basics, 9 fetches, 4 duals, 1 Karakas)
5 Island
2 Plains
1 Mountain
3 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
2 Arid Mesa
2 Volcanic Island
2 Tundra
1 Karakas
Sideboard
2 Wear // Tear
2 Flusterstorm
1 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Rest in Peace
1 Grafdigger's Cage
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Batterskull
1 Supreme Verdict
1 Pithing Needle
Johannes Gutbrod
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Brainstorm
3 Swords to Plowshares
2 Spell Pierce
1 Spell Snare
2 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
2 Ponder
2 Entreat the Angels
3 Terminus
1 Supreme Verdict
3 Counterbalance
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Sensei's Divining Top
(6 basics, 10 fetches, 5 duals, 1 Karakas)
4 Island
2 Plains
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
2 Arid Mesa
2 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
1 Karakas
Sideboard
1 Disenchant
2 Flusterstorm
1 Pyroblast
2 Red Elemental Blast
1 Engineered Explosives
3 Rest in Peace
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Batterskull
1 Counterspell
1 Supreme Verdict
Tomasz Jablonski
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Snapcaster Mage
4 Brainstorm
4 Swords to Plowshares
2 Spell Pierce
1 Spell Snare
2 Counterspell
4 Force of Will
1 Ponder
2 Entreat the Angels
3 Terminus
1 Supreme Verdict
3 Counterbalance
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
4 Sensei's Divining Top
(6 basics, 9 fetches, 5 duals, 1 Gate 1 Karakas)
4 Island
2 Plains
4 Scalding Tarn
4 Flooded Strand
1 Arid Mesa
2 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
1 Mystic Gate
1 Karakas
Sideboard
2 Disenchant
1 Flusterstorm
3 Pyroblast
1 Engineered Explosives
2 Rest in Peace
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Batterskull
2 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Moat
Spell Snare surprisingly popular and each list ran SFM/BSkull in the SB as well.
wow. imagine the amount of grindy mirrors that went down that day...
The increase in popularity is partly why I started playing Punishing Fires. Very nice in the mirror (and against most things I find--I couldn't tell you how many games I keep winning because of fire/groves that I feel like I have no business winning otherwise).
I like the idea of crushing mirrors, but doubt the tradeoff is worth it in a meta that's still saturated with Wastelands. I don't fancy decreasing blue mana sources in a deck aiming at having UU available by turn 3 latest. Also: there is no real application for the green you add, while worsening the mana base.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valtrix
That being said imma online test it anyway now :tongue:
It's actually not that much of an issue. I can sandbag groves to get value out of it even through a wasteland, and generally once people see your on fire/groves, it actually tends to protect your other mana sources since groves is generally just so much more valuable. I was a bit skeptical about my manabase at first, but I've found it to be fine. Yes, it is inherently a bit less stable, but it's not really "game losing" unstable. The extra power fire/groves gives has been incredible in my experience and completely worth any trade-off with the manabase. It has applications in so many places, from killing walkers to repeated removal to stopping batterskull to just being an extra wincondition. Frankly, it wins me way more games than the counterbalance softlock ever does. For reference, this is the following manabase I've been running:
//23 land
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
4 Flooded strand
3 Arid Mesa
2 Scalding Tarn
3 Island
1 Plains
2 Tundra
3 Volcanic Island
1 Plateau
Not sure how PFires is good in the mirror, when it gets locked out by CounterTop and Rest in Peace?
CB + Top owns the mirror too, but if your opponent brings in 2-3 RiPs and thus leaves out other value spells - that's not necessarily a bad thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by HammerAndSickled
PS, Here's the rather random list I'm spinning atm:
4 Top
4 BS
4 Ponder
3 Jace
3 StP
3 P. Fire
2 Terminus
2 EtA
2 CB
4 FoW
1 CS
1 Snare
1 REB
2 Pierce
2 EE
4 Flooded Strand
2 Scalding Tarn
2 Arid Mesa
2 Volcanic Island
3 Tundra
3 Island
1 Plains
3 Grove
SB:
1 EtA
1 StP
2 Terminus
2 Pyroblast
2 Wear/tear
2 Fluster Storm
1 CB
3 GY haterz (undecided)
1 open slot
After 12ish games, P. Fire hasn't shone yet, though the manabase was OK even against Wasteland.dec. MD EEs and REBs (+ SB Pyros) definitely benefit from Groves, SB Wear/Tear is much more feasible over Disenchant too, though this isn't a huge upgrade overall. Having WW available for EtA is definately less reliable and having to cut "UU" spells (CB/CS/Clique) also feels kinda meh.
I'll give it 10 more and see how it flows.
I played at a local Duel for 40 Duals event yesterday. There was 140 players and I went 6-2 with miracles for 13th place and plateau. I used this list:
2 Arid Mesa
4 Flooded Strand
4 Island
1 Karakas
2 Plains
4 Polluted Delta
3 Tundra
2 Volcanic Island
4 Brainstorm
2 Ponder
4 Sensei's Divining Top
4 Force of Will
3 Counterbalance
1 Counterspell
2 Spell Pierce
4 Swords to Plowshares
4 Terminus
2 Entreat the Angels
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Venser, Shaper Savant
2 Vendilion Clique
2 Snapcaster Mage
Sideboard:
2 Engineered Explosives
2 Flusterstorm
1 Pithing Needle
2 Pyroblast
1 Red Elemental Blast
1 Relic of Progenitus
1 Counterspell
1 Disenchant
2 Rest in Peace
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Supreme Verdict
My Matchups:
0-2 BUG Delver
Game 1 he had triple hymn and I was on a mull to 5. Game 2 we traded back and forth for a long time but eventually he seemed to be drawing nothing, but so was I. I drew 5 lands in a row. Eventually I got a top and cliqued him to see his hand was literally 4 decays, 2 charms and a goyf he just drew. A turn or so latter he dropped null rod and my following draws were relic, EE, 2nd top, 3rd top. My mistake was not boarding in disenchant. But the, "board out all the targets for decay/charm" plan worked pretty well.
2-0 High Tide
G1 I stick a counterbalance and float a 3 drop to counter his out (wipe away). G2/3 my deck is literally just lands, counterspells and clique/jace. After about turn 4 I had 5-7 castable counterspells in my hand our on top of my library. My EoT clique on turn 3 closed the game out.
2-0 UR Omnishow with red for Burning wish
G1 he goes all in, sacing 2 lotus petals for show and I counter it. G2 he resolved a show and tell after a long counter war on turn 2 with just 1 card left in hand. He puts in emrakul and I am extremely relieved. I show in my 3rd land. Untap, 4th land, jace -1. Thanks for the turn 3 Jace, GG.
2-1 Manaless dredge (Hollywood)
Hollywood is easily one of, if not the, best dredge player(s) so even with miracles, beating him is never easy. I quickly learn he is playing FoW and disrupting Shoal, to deal with GY hate.
G1 He gets me. G2 I stall him out with a relic for quiet a while. He starts to get ahead of the relic eventually so I crack as soon as I can't answer what he is doing with StpS. After a lot of digging I find a EE and RIP just after he gets a couple of zombies out and tears apart my hand. G3: My opening has REB, flusterstorm, RIP and the right lands. I don't go for turn 2 RIP because he has 8 free counterspells in his deck postboard. He dredges a bunch with street wraiths and gets dude+therapy online. I brainstorm RIP on top of my deck. And turn 3 cast it for the lock.
2-1 High Tide
Swan song was really good G1, but otherwise: "G2/3 my deck is literally just lands, counterspells and clique/jace. After about turn 4 I had 5-7 castable counterspells in my hand our on top of my library. My EoT clique on turn 3 closed the game out."
1-0-1 Death and Taxes
We have a 40minute G1 which involved me karakas/cliquing myself 3 times in a row to put tops #2 and #3 on bottom of my library and me jace bounching my snapcaster twice to StpS Serra Avengers with 2 equipments on them. For most of the game, I have a karakas out which nullifies the 2 thalia he has in hand for the entire rest of the game. I make 3 angels early and he answers them, but the 4 I make later are good enough for him to scoop when hes at 40 life still. G2 We did not finish, but I was stabilized and in a decent position when we timed out.
0-2 TES (Royce)
Royce is one of the best TES pilots and I have played against him and Cook quiet a few times so I know how the matchup goes.
G1 He baits out 1 FoW and goes for an early rit>rit>AdN. I Have a 2nd force. Unfortunatly, I brick on lands for 4-5 turns and just draw garbage. Eventually I get third land and make my first mistake, end of draw step cliquing him and taking a ponder. He assembles a natural storm 9 tendrils. I had a spell pierce, I should have just held up mana and waited to clique him EoT or if he started chaining rituals. G2 He turn 1 duresses my counterspell. I make another mistakes I think: I have pierce, FoW, blue card, REB and I let him wish for therapy on turn 2. Turn 3 I think I cast a ponder or something on my turn, so I only have plains, volc untapped. He casts ponder, and I think he is not going off this turn so I REB it. Now he casts therapy. I feel I have to FoW it now or he knows he can just go for it (and my other blue card was jace). I should have just pierced the wish when I the chance. He assumes the coast is clear, and using the storm from my FoW and REP, he has enough to tendrils me for lethal.
2-1 Merfolk
G1 The fish get me. G2 I misideboard a bit, forgetting about cavern of souls I leave in a counterbalance. I have a really rough time stabilizing, but he overextends and I punish him for it, and then he holds back his mutavault attacking with just lords when I only have StpS so I stabilize eventually and Jace him. G3 Is a super close one. Near the end, I wasn't seeing any answers to his dudes with my top or jace but I have entreat and ponder on top of my deck. I do the math and then only way he could outrace my entreat is if he draws silvergill into silvergill into lord, so I go all in on an Entreat, shuffling away top, and we just race. He only gets me to 1 and I win. I talking to him later he it come up that he has zero outs, and instaloses to a resolved Moat.
I was thrilled to face combo all day. Especially 3 mono-blue combo decks. The BUG matchup was terrible luck and a small mistake. The storm matchup I think I could have won though if I played smarter.
The maindeck and SB felt really solid. I still really like the maindeck 1 karakas, 2 clique, 2 snap. Venser might change though. He was underwhelming for me today. He was really good at getting pitched to FoW and he had one awesome moment of bouncing a lord and blocking a mutavault, but that was about it. My SBing against BUG is a little awkward. I basically have 7 cards I want to take out and 6 cards I want to bring in. So the only other thing I am considering is dropping needle for something that is good against BUG, but also still good against Vial deck. A 2nd verdict perhaps. Also, I usually don't like spell snare, but It would have been amazing against all the decks I played except dredge.
Thanks for the right up. always much appreciated! your list looks very solid - no funky card choices (except for Venser). Revisiting your MUs, 1-2 MD Blasts would have been beneficial every single G1, barring DnT. Venser --> REB looks feasible, also slightly lowering your curve, which is nice considering your 22 land count.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArchitect
I'm not sure why you think you need to cut the UU spells. Getting UU isn't really that hard in my experience. But you're running only 20 lands (!), 3 of which are groves, so that probably has something to do with it. But WW for Entreat is definitely a bit more painful, which is partly why I cut down to a single entreat. It's definitely one of the most powerful cards our deck has access too and I really miss the second copy, but I have extra win-cons to make up for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by klaus
It'd be nice if you could elaborate on exactly what you mean by fire/groves hasn't "shone yet," as there's a couple interpretations I could see. Do you mean you've been assembling the combo but it just hasn't been worthwhile? Or do you mean that the combo has been too tough to put together because of draws/wastelands/etc.? I feel like unless you're against combo any game where you have fire/groves together is generally better than when you don't. Everybody (except combo) has walkers or creatures which you need to kill. I can only speak from my experience of course, but the recursion has let me win a lot of games I feel like I have no business winning in any other way.
For reference, here is the list which I've been playing for awhile now and I'm very happy with it. Still testing the SFM/Batterskull and honestly it wins me a lot of games, although I'm still not completely sold on it.
4 Grove of the Burnwillows
3 Volcanic Island
2 Tundra
1 Plateau
1 Plains
3 Island
4 Flooded Strand
3 Arid Mesa
2 Scalding Tarn
4 Punishing Fire
1 Swords to Plowshares
4 Terminus
3 Counterbalance
4 Sensei's Divining Top
3 Vendilion Clique
4 Force of Will
3 Spell Pierce
4 Brainstorm
3 Jace, the Mind Sculptor
1 Entreat the Angels
2 Stoneforge Mystic
1 Batterskull
SB: 1 Humility
SB: 2 Enlightened Tutor
SB: 1 Grafdigger's Cage
SB: 1 Rest in Peace
SB: 1 Pithing Needle
SB: 1 Detention Sphere
SB: 2 Pyroblast
SB: 1 Swords to Plowshares
SB: 2 Red Elemental Blast
SB: 1 Counterspell
SB: 1 Supreme Verdict
SB: 1 Counterbalance
I am really not a fan of the REB maindeck. But that did occur to me that REB would have been amazing all day. My issue with the REB, besides it being dead against 40-50% of the field on average, is that I need a mountain maindeck. My friend and I often swap fetchlands, so getting the tarns aren't an issue and I have played with the mountain MD before and it really did mess things up a few times. This deck really wants blue lands. Drawing a basic plains even cost me that G2 against TES. That said, I always forget how blue the Binghamton meta always is. I even remember during the players meeting one out-of-stater next to me asked a stranger, "whats the meta like here?" and the other guy just responded "blue". Next time I play in Binghamton I think I will do the MD REB.Quote:
Originally Posted by klaus
Sometimes I still really like venser, but I think I might cut him for a snare, 2nd counterspell, MD verdict, 3rd snap or 3rd ponder.
EDIT: Also, that Punishing Fire list looks pretty sweet. I might have to try that at some point soon.
You certainly don't need a Mountain. #yoloQuote:
Originally Posted by TheArchitect
I played the P Fire version for almost a year after switching back to a more traditional list and I've found myself more concerned with time with this version, since once the games get to a certain point they just concede to PF lock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valtrix
With that being said, even with decent success with the list and a lot of aggro in my meta, I switched back to the legendary list.
Cheers. Simply forgot 2 (got 38 spells). I guess adding a fetch and a plains would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Valtrix
PS: I do recommend the 2nd EtA.
My list from the coverage is actually wrong. I ran only 1 Wear/tear and 2 REB.
@ Valtrix
Further testing has shown that MD EE is insane - being able to blow up opposing Jaces rules. I do recommend it at least as a singleton.
I've also replaced a SB Wear/Tear with a Grip. I'm aware this one-of won't show up frequently, but having a cute out against the increased amounts of CBs and Batterskulls is gravy.
I think that was me who said "blue". I was on Miracles and had one Pyroblast main (without Mountain) and I just never saw it. Played (poorly) against Junk, BUG Delver, RUG Delver, Zombardment, BUG Delver, RUG Delver and BUG Midrange, so theoretically it was good.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheArchitect
I am having a really dificult time beating merfolk and goblins. Is there anything im doing wrong in these MUs? Generally i found myself looking for multiple terminus and ending up dying. I really cant find a plan to beat them effectively.
Anyone can help?
It is an obvious tradeoff but no one has brought up the opportunity cost of running pfire is no longer having room for
Karakas in the 75.
These are terrible matchups that suddenly become awesome if you have a Moat and Etutor in your SB. Moat is pretty underwhelming unless you have a lot of goblins and merfolk in your area (although its not bad against Jund or shardless BUG also). Unless they spash for green/white for 1-2 SB cards, goblins has no outs to a moat besides 1 siege gang (which you just stps on sight). Merfolk, often has zero outs to a resolved moat, but they can in theory run coralhelm or bounce spells (although these days most dont). Merfolk will probably have some combination of FoW, peirce, daze, flusterstorm, envelope and swan song post board though. So don't slam it turn 4 without protection.Quote:
Originally Posted by combo_rules
If moat is not worth it in your meta (which its usually not in mine), pithing needle, EE and disenchant are key. If you can keep them off vial you have a chance. Miracles cannot deal with instant speed uncounterable creatures. Board out basically all your countermagic and CB. I keep in either 2/3 pierce/FoW if I am on the play/draw JUST for Vial and REB is obviously insane against merfolk. Both decks run caverns so don't expect to counter their creatures. If you are going to win without moat, it almost has to be with a turn 3-5 terminus followed up with an ambush viper Entreat for 2-4 the next turn, or if you must, an upkeep "activate top in response to port" entreat. Especially against goblins, you will not ever stabilize without dumb luck; ringleader is too good. You basically have to out tempo them and race with angels.
My recent win against merfolk was because of opponents errors one game, and then the plan I just described. I needled vial turn 1, wiped the board around turn ~4, dropped jace and bounced the next turn, and then entreated the next turn and raced, surviving with only 1 life left.
PS: I am also going to say this because it always gets brought up: No, humility will not work instead of moat. Both cards just happen to be 4 drop white enchantments, but they do completely different things.
Merfolk should be terribly easy--disenchant their vials, terminus their board. If you run moat, that should be an auto-win. Goblins is rough, you terminus them, then they cast a ringleader and have a lethal board again next turn. I know my outer for lands against merfolk is ensnaring bridge, which could be viable for a miracles list that's comfortable playing off the top, but then again e-bridge plus punishing fire is pretty hard for them to beat. Goblins, I think you're probably in trouble, at least lands gets punishing fire and maze of iths for a repeatable way to turn them off, for you guys it's harder since you're relying on 5 board wipes and no repeatable ways to stop them from interacting.Quote:
Originally Posted by combo_rules
To win against Goblins you have to hold them down long enough, so you can make some angel tokens.Quote:
Originally Posted by combo_rules
Played in a small 40-person tournament yesterday.
Round 1 against 12-Post (with Oracle of Mull-Daya)
Game 1 he starts of with a Cloudpost and I immediately cringe.. I manage to brainstorm an Entreat the Angels on top to play it in my draw step for 2 angels. I get there by countering some Crop Rotations and racing his Show and Telled Ulamog.
Game 2 is more grundy and I beat him down with a Clique and a Snapcaster Mage, while countering Crop Rotation and searching for an Entreat with a Top. Eventually I have the second Snapcaster (he has a karakas for my Clique) and beat him to death after bouncing his Oracle with Jace.
Round 2 against Jund
Game 1 we both mulligan to 6 and my hand is questionable. The game is very grindy and I can't keep up with Bloodbraid Elves and Liliana after being manascrewed for a couple of turns. Punishing Fire finishes me off.
Game 2 the game gets grindy and I finish it of with Entreat tokens.
Game 3 I manage to resolve 3 Entreat the Angels, of which the 3rd is the finisher in extra turns.
Round 3 against Jund
Game 1 she has a Confidant on board which grants her enough card advantage to take the first game. Punishing Fire finishes me off.
Game 2 I hold her off long enough to resolve a lethal Entreat.
Game 3 she has it all and I can't find my Entreat.
Round 4 against Junk
Game 1 he rushes an army of 2 Deathrite Shamans and 1 Dark Confidant into my Terminus. Jace fate seal with counter backup would finish him off if I wouldn't have found my Entreat.
Game 2 is sort of the same. Nothing special, this round was easy.
Round 5 against Ubrg Punishing Fire Control
Game 1 I scoop against his board of Jace + Pernicious Dead + Punishing Fire and Grove
Game 2 I let him blow up his Deed for a Vendilion Clique and I manage to take the game with an Entreat.
Game 3 ends up with me having a lethal angel army and him top decking his last Pernicious Deed. After that he steals the match in extra turns with Punishing Fire. Tough beats.
Round 6 against RG Goblins
Game 1 he beats me to death with a couple of goblins after removing a lot of them.
Game 2 I swords his first 2 Lackey's, terminus his board twice and end of turn Entreat for lethal.
Game 3 I swords his first lackey, block his second lackey with a Snapcaster Mage while flashback swords his Piledriver. After that I manage to make some entreat tokens and eventually I can kill him with a second Entreat.
4-2 ending up 9th out of 40.
Usually I play TES, but have switched back to Miracles since GP Paris because the meta is too hostile for storm-combo (I've played it before). I notice my experience with storm has greatly improved reading opponents and thinking ahead.
So in the wake of BoM, what are people plans for battling 4C Loam and the hateful version of D&T? I'm sure people in my area will be picking up these decks soon enough and neither seems like a decent matchup for Miracles. In fact the 4C Loam deck is probably a beating.
I'm not sure how you arrive at the conclusion that 4C Loam might be bad MU - sure there might be really random wins with Chalice 1 into Zenith for Teeg which actually locks you out of removal and wincons, but the Loam deck has a pretty low threat density, lots of clunky and dead draws and I'm sure can't beat a decently sized Entreat.
Merfolk definitely isn't a walk in the park. It's a lot like a Delver deck if instead of Ponders and Brainstorms, it just ran 8 more Delvers. Their threat density is very scary and if you don't find a Terminus fast enough or if they win the counter war over Terminus then things get rather hairy. Mutavault is also very good because good Fish players will usually just sandbag it until post-Terminus to deal those last few points. Very winnable, but not very fun.Quote:
Originally Posted by amalek0
I mean, fire/groves to blow up opposing Jaces rules :P Also, fire/groves stops batterskull pretty nicely too, which is another reason I like it. Your 6 mana vs. their 8. I can certainly see EE being useful here though, and I might consider one somewhere in the 75 with more miracles being played being able to answer balance is a must. I tend to trim my curve as much as possible, so I'm unsure where I'd be able to find room right now. That said, I keep wishing I had more detention spheres, so having access to EE could help out there a lot. I also really like entreat, but I just didn't feel like I needed the second one in my fire/groves list because of SFM/batterskull and fire/groves increasing my ways to win the game. It's certainly very powerful, but fire/groves is able to pull me out of a lot of situations where I felt entreat was the only way out before. I also really hate running more than 5 miracles, just from my personal experience, although I know the accepted number is usually more. The KGrip is pretty interesting though, it certainly is the best at its job.Quote:
Originally Posted by klaus
I didn't mean to imply it was easy, just that it was straightforward--you lock them out of aether vial, then you attempt to boardwipe and stabilize. As far as the loam deck being a beating for miracles, I will point to my personal w/l record with 4 color lands against miracles--about 70% in tournament matches. The reason a semi-large entreat doesn't kill lands is the same way 4 color lands will fight it--with engineered explosives. Loam decks are just not a great matchup for miracles because wasteland recursion + ports is not fun for your non-existent clock.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzra
When I was playing 4C Loam (with wishes not quite the new list) I was a little over 50% vs miracles. RIP and Entreat were the only 2 cards I cared about, and once Miracles started cutting RIP from the MD and cutting down the #'s post board it became pretty easy. PFire is a perfectly fine Win Con vs Miracles. Not only does it win the game (eventually), it makes sure Jace doesnt do much, and kills off any of your non entreat creatures easily. I'd say playing more RIP is the best way to fight the 4C Loam decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Philipp2293
So I am now back from the BoM. 35th place with a 7-2-1 score is not bad, but still disappointing to me due to various reasons. As said, the list worked perfect. I am not the kind of guy that whines about "unlucky" losses but I lost G3 vs Imperial Painter due to... well - see for yourself.
It's G3, I lost the 1st after he started with Blood Moon, then I easily put town the second game. In game three I keep a hand with Top, Island, Plains, Brainstorm, Spell Pierce, Swords to Plowshares and Counterbalance. He starts with Ancient Tomb, exiles Simian Spirit Guide, exiles Simian Spirit Guide, cast Koth of the Hammer. You can guess where the game went from there, as I didn't find my Pithing Needle in time.
Yet again I got to say that the list was great, I just didn't play optimally. Outside of the tournament I did some serious testing against the best players for two of the toughest matches. I played against Michael Bonde with Death and Taxes and won pretty convincing with a score of 4-1. Then I played against Jean-Mary Accart with Shardless BUG and managed to win 2-1 after I did literally nothing in game 2. Ofc the sample size isn't too big, but this duels featured some of the best players of both archetypes on both sides, so I think they are more valid than other testing.
Throughout the tournament atleast 20 people walked up to me and asked me things about Miracles, my articles or just about my Top8 in Paris. This was such a great feeling - thanks for everybody doing that - I know a lot of you are on TheSource but I just couldn't remember all names! Thanks again!
I am sorry that my previously article is still not online. There are some serious delays for all the articles, sorry. I am working on my next one, which is scheduled on the 15th of May. I hope I manage to get it done before I leave for GP Warsaw and PT Atlanta... It might be the last article I write about Miracles for the time being.
Serious congratulations to Marcus, Tomasz and Johannes for Top8ing the BoM with our beloved deck! Very well done - but I have told you so at the tournament anyways! :)
By the way guys, please tell me that you are not serious about Punishing Fires, please just tell me that you are not.
Greetings
Even Miracles players need entertainment, Altered lands and cards can only get you thus far.Quote:
Originally Posted by Einherjer
Which matchups did you encounter during the main event?Quote:
Originally Posted by Einherjer
Thanks in advance
Back from BoM9!
Finished 29th with a 7-1-2 score in the Legacy main event. I started 6-1 (only an unlucky loss vs dredge..), but then had 2 draws :frown:. I was happy to win the last round for top 32, but still a bit sad about those 2 draws. Could have won 1 if I called a judge when my opponent Brainstormed after a Ponder (but I was 1-0 ahead and sure about the cards he drew (did touch his hand) and am probably to good for this world...).
Together with the 4-1 finish in the thursday Vintage trial, and the 7-1-1 top 8 finish in the Vintage main event (my first Vintage main event), I had a pretty awesome weekend :cool:! Wish there still was a Golden BoM for Legacy & Vintage. Not completely sure, but I think it could have been mine hehe.
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Originally Posted by twndomn
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Back from BOM as well! Report is up there. Hope you guys enjoy.
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Originally Posted by zerzab11
Solid list - no risks taken choice-wise and rewarded. Congratz!