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Pretty sure we can do something with this! Doesn't get hit with bolt or decay, GSZable and gives nice card advantage.
Yes! I ran over here to check this thread as soon as I saw that card on Twitter. I need to get my Nic Fit deck assembled again and give this card a whirl. Seems like a 1-of for now. Too much other stuff going on in my current list. Could really synergize with Tasigur, but the odds of getting both of them out at that same time is not great. I have noticed an increased number of Karakas being played in response to Tasigur, as well.
I like this card.
Nic Fit has had a lack of strong (green) 4-drops in general for quite a while -- red has Huntmaster and everyone gets Thrun as a 1-of, but beyond that you have to start looking at ObBaloths or Master of the Wild Hunts (which both have their places, but they're not generic powerhouses -- they only work for specific versions).
The biggest issue I have with him is that you need to have things to get back with him. DRS is a good one at one (or even just getting back more Vets to get more lands). Once you hit 3 counters, if he lives that long, you can start doing nutty things. The problem is the 2-spot. The (ostensibly) best 2-drop we have unanimous to all versions is Scavenging Ooze. BUG versions get Strix, which seems absolutely fucking nutty with Meren -- white's Teeg doesn't do much here, but Qasali is gas (note that this card existing is a reason to consider Qasali > RecSage). Red just goes and cries in the corner.
I just realized that he gives YOU the counters (do they go in the command zone, I guess?). That actually makes this guy really insane -- we run Nightmare (and/or Volraths) anyway, so even if he doesn't stick around for more than a counter or two, we can always bring him back and keep ramping it up later on.
Overall I think he's a shoe-in for bug lists with Strix -- Red probably won't touch him since they have Huntmaster for competition and tend to run fewer creatures in total anyway. White could certainly run him, but it's probably 50/50. Some people will, some people won't; which is fine.
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LOL JACE VYRN'S PRODIGY
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Being a Junk Nic Fit player, I'll chime in on that one... Grabbing back Stoneforge Mystic to grab Jitte/Batterskull (increased odds of having both out, too). Bringing back Qasali Pridemage would be awesome against some decks. Once this baby gets rolling, returning Siege Rhino to the battlefield could be a real backbreaker.
EDIT: Another thought I just had... Bringing back Eternal Witness and effectively getting a two-fer off of it would be fun.
EDIT #2: Bringing back Flip Jace in a BUG list... LOL thats sick!
EDIT #3: Could this card have addtional synergy with Birthing Pod versions of Nic Fit? You have to sac a creature with Pod to fetch another dude, that will help you ramp your experience counters. The progression in converted costs of dudes you sac to dudes you fetch with Pod could lend well to the addtion of the experience counters. (Not to mention, Birthing Pod getting banned in Modern was the reason I started playing Nic Fit in the first place.)
@Arianrhod: Meren is a she - just saying.
I like her synergy with the Junk shell, especially with Pridemage, SFM and Rhino around, although BUG with Baby Jace and Strix also sounds good.
Today of all days i was thinking about Nic Fit with Evolutionary Leap.
Meren seems nice there =D
Ah. Couldn't tell from the art, didn't read the article.
Rhino synergy is obviously insane if you can get her there. Doing so without something like Bitterblossom / Lingering Souls + sac outlet is likely going to be challenging, is all. If you can get her to 3 and you're not immediately dead, you've won the game. How exactly you choose to execute the win at that point is up to you and the board state, but if Meren is unchecked at 3 counters for any extended period of time, the match slip is a formality. You'll literally bury the opponent in cards and value.
Stoneforge is kind of reasonable I guess, but I don't think it's quite as insane as popular opinion seems to think. I could be wrong -- I haven't run SFM in nic fit in a very long time. It was average at best when I last tried. Meren + SFM is only really relevant for Bskull -- we'd run out of equipment to fetch very quickly (2 triggers, 3 at the most?).
I already want to replace my Recurring Nightmare with this, which has been lackluster because its a non-tutorable singleton (unless I use my Diabolic Intent on it). Being GSZable is the best part of this card.
Yes, being Zenithable is the best part. I almost want to run 1x Meren and 1x Recurring Nightmare in the deck just so I can try to slam as many Rhinos on the field as I can.
He seems great
Zenithable
Cant be decayed
You the player get the counters so with multiples he can create a powerful engine thats nit easily disruptable.
I think if i read him correctly he can be ised to get counteres quickly with eldrazi creatures that put sacrifical tokens into play.
I think the biggest perk is that even if you don't have enough experience to reanimate target creature card in your graveyard, you can still Disentomb that card.
LOL yeah... I did the same thing... Get so excited about the first part of the card that you miss the second part of it. Reanimate or Disentomb a dude at your end step. Zenithable. Survives Perncious Deed, Abrupt Decay, and Lightning Bolt. Yeah, solid card. The only bad thing about it is there's no foil version. :tongue:
It looks very interesting, I agree. Seems like she could be played in a pair with Courser of Kruphix to provide varied GSZ-able card advantage engines. Courser helps pulling extra lands out of the deck during the first 5-6 turns (when coupled with an SDT). During later turns there may be a couple of creatures in the graveyard and Meren becomes the obvious GSZ-target.
cant wait to try her out.. i think def would replace recurring nightmare.. atleast to start.
Man....why could this have came out two weeks ago.....
Ran back the same list today in the 11 pm daily with changes
-1 DL Dromoka
+1 Elspeth, Sun's Champion
SB: -1 Golgari Charm +1 chains
Round 1 Miracles (MzFrostie)
Game 1 was him landing a mentor and then having force for the deed to follow it up with 2x top combo.
Game 2 I mulled to 5 and got run over by entreat for 4.
SIDE NOTE: miracles is a truly abysmal deck to play against. its so slow and top doesnt make it any faster.
0-2
Round 2 Omni-tell (Franzk)
Game 1 I did nothing and then his showed in that stupid 10 mana enchantment that lets him cast emrakul
Game 2 i drew sideboard and Skillerhino'd him to the ground
Game 3 He landed omnisience and then 5 cantrips into another. I went SKillerhino into Skillerhino while he bricked
Moral: 2 Skillerhinos > 2 Omniscience
2-1
Round 3 Shardless
Game 1 im glad no one else watched this game. MY buddy is on skype watching and he said it looks unwinnable.
Game 2 I slaughter ancestral. Skillerhinos into the fray.
Game 3 Super attrition based as per use. I break serve with Sun's Champ. he pulses. i ajani making them 2/2s. he deluges. I play Skillerhino and make it a 7/8 for the concession.
2-1
Round 4 Four Badland Goblins (Dronny) He called it Kiki and the happy hungry bunch
I don't really wanna talk about this. He ran me over like a small child in the street and then gave me the win because he was 1-2 and I was 2-1.
I dont know if you guys think this match up is fine but its F**kin not.
Sideboard needs work and Miracles needs to be neutered.
I am super excited about new commander card and i anticipate it being exceptional.