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Wow. I was hoping for a Chains of Mephistopheles on a dude. And here we are, not exactly chains but does screw with brainstorm. 3 power really nice too.
Wonder where it fits in D&T. And which creature gets the boot.
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If RUG had problems with D&T before this creature, this takes it to whole new level. Its like having a chalice on one against that deck. This guy also buys tuns of time against combo decks. Its hard to win fast if you have to naturally draw your combo pieces.
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I thought all bears were 2/2's? :cool:
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I thought all bears were 2/2's? :cool:
It's obviously a hatecat
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HAHAHA can we please make that stick?
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akatsuki
HAHAHA can we please make that stick?
Well it can be cast via ather vial so its close.
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Cool detail: it can be fetched with enlightened tutor.
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I like how it has 3 power. I expect to see this becoming a common play:
Opponent: Jace, Jacestorm
You: Response Vial, put this into play, next turn swing, kill your Jace.
It also stops Griselbrand from going nuts.
I guess now we have our high impact Legacy card - as expected from a Ken Nagle set.
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Wow, yeah literally every set Ken Nagle has lead-designed has had high impact Legacy cards.
Commander
New Phyrexia
Worldwake
Return to Ravnica
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GradStudentGuy
If RUG had problems with D&T before this creature, this takes it to whole new level. Its like having a chalice on one against that deck. This guy also buys tuns of time against combo decks. Its hard to win fast if you have to naturally draw your combo pieces.
i think you mean rug just bolts it and moves on with its game plan.... also see forked bolt
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This thing is good. Stops 8 of RUG's cards, 12 of omnitell, 12 of sneak show, and other combo decks.
hoses elves like crazy too.
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The article that revealed Spirit of the Labyrinth doesn't talk about the card much (or at all, actually), but it's titled "Born Legacy". Seems extremely intentional.
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WOW this card is incredible. Will 100% see play. I'd say it's an auto 4 of in D&T and is probably only a bit worse than Thalia.
I'm just happy it's not a fucking 3/2 the way R&D's been going, but yeah. Extremely playable and extremely fair.
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This thing is good. Stops 8 of RUG's cards, 12 of omnitell, 12 of sneak show, and other combo decks.
hoses elves like crazy too.
Assuming this card sees tons and tons of play (and the fact that it turns off your own Brainstorms suggests that it is limited to just a small handful of decks), it is easily answerable by, among other things, Gut Shot.
It's also super squishy versus Stoneforge into Jitte.
Still good, to be sure, but not pants-shittingly so.
EDIT: I will say that I don't understand why that card is an enchantment. You could remove the Enchantment type from it and it would make just as much sense. That type seems there more as a box-ticking exercise than anything.
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Holy crap what a bear! Makes death and taxes/maverick stronger. Any thalia deck straight up benefits from this. I'm going to run 4 of this in my Mav for sure.
Having 8 thalias is no joke and 3/1 is a pretty decent clock.
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I kinda feel relieved. Would have liked to see it in red, though
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Aggro_zombies
Assuming this card sees tons and tons of play (and the fact that it turns off your own Brainstorms suggests that it is limited to just a small handful of decks), it is easily answerable by, among other things,
Gut Shot.
It's also super squishy versus Stoneforge into Jitte.
Still good, to be sure, but not pants-shittingly so.
EDIT: I will say that I don't understand why that card is an enchantment. You could remove the Enchantment type from it and it would make just as much sense. That type seems there more as a box-ticking exercise than anything.
It is an extremely fair card that every deck can answer, but gives non blue decks a serious tool to fight combo and blue decks
Its an enchantment due to its effect, it globally effects both players and is similar to chains (with stopping extra card draw) hence the enchantment part
I like it, Nic Pod wants this very very badly
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It's an enchantment that happens to screw over Enchantress. I love it.
Oh noes, another way I can't cast Thoughtcast!
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Wow, that's actually a really cool card. I like it.
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Aggro_zombies
Assuming this card sees tons and tons of play (and the fact that it turns off your own Brainstorms suggests that it is limited to just a small handful of decks), it is easily answerable by, among other things,
Gut Shot.
It's also super squishy versus Stoneforge into Jitte.
Still good, to be sure, but not pants-shittingly so.
EDIT: I will say that I don't understand why that card is an enchantment. You could remove the Enchantment type from it and it would make just as much sense. That type seems there more as a box-ticking exercise than anything.
I'm pretty sure that if the last few years have confirmed anything, it's that Wizards just has a hardon for trying new frames and will come up with any bullshit justification for doing so.