Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
You said you use Diminishing Returns a lot; Chant seems like it's still really important. It just seems to me that if Past in Flames turns out to be an easy replacement for IGG, Duress is far superior to Chant (less mana on combo turn, can take Hymn, etc) and then you can be a UBR combo deck instead of playing the half 5C manabase and I think the deck evolves pretty rapidly.
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Anusien
You said you use Diminishing Returns a lot; Chant seems like it's still really important. It just seems to me that if Past in Flames turns out to be an easy replacement for IGG, duress is far superior (less mana on combo turn, can take Hymn, etc) and then you can be a UBR combo deck instead of playing the half 5C manabase and I think the deck evolves pretty rapidly.
Fixed that for you.
Chant isn't in the deck because of IGG, chant is in the deck because it just flat out wins. Chant trumps all those sitfle, spell snare, reb, beb, etc they might have.
Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
This is also something interesting. A wish target that can bounce Iona (black) or Teeg for U:
Name: Silent Departure
Cost: u
Type: Sorcery
Rules Text: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
Flashback {4}{u}
Flavor Text: The same magic that lets geists pass through our realm can force them out of it.
Illus. John Avon
Rarity: Common
Set Number: #75/264
@Chants/Silences: I play W in TES and DDFT just for these cards. They are too powerful to ignore. With or without MMS (banned) I played / I'd stll play it. If you really wan't go and try another 3cTES/TNT/whatever with PiF maindeck but without chants and with this kind of graveyard vulnerability I don't see the power of it.
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Deviruchi
This is also something interesting. A wish target that can bounce Iona (black) or Teeg for U:
Name: Silent Departure
Cost: u
Type: Sorcery
Rules Text: Return target creature to its owner's hand.
Flashback {4}{u}
Flavor Text: The same magic that lets geists pass through our realm can force them out of it.
Illus. John Avon
Rarity: Common
Set Number: #75/264
@Chants/Silences: I play W in TES and DDFT just for these cards. They are too powerful to ignore. With or without MMS (banned) I played / I'd stll play it. If you really wan't go and try another 3cTES/TNT/whatever with PiF maindeck but without chants and with this kind of graveyard vulnerability I don't see the power of it.
Eh, what it comes down to is how much do you care about Iona? This could replace the second Deathmark, if you did care. I'm unsure if it's worth playing. What does everyone else think?
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Bryant Cook
Eh, what it comes down to is how much do you care about Iona? This could replace the second Deathmark, if you did care. I'm unsure if it's worth playing. What does everyone else think?
I only care about hatebears. They are white, so deathmark does the trick better. (can be cast the turn before comboing, no reb target)
EDIT: the flashback cost is too high to be relevant. Make it 1U and I'm in
Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
Now that Misstep is banned, would we still need defense grids, or can we rock those Xantids again?
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Does this mean I have to get LED's again so I can play this deck? FML
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Basaka
Now that Misstep is banned, would we still need defense grids, or can we rock those Xantids again?
I'll be going back to Pyros.
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Bryant Cook
I'll be going back to Pyros.
Yeah, you can bet your ass CBtop will be seeing play again
Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm
The thing about Silent Departure is, is Deathmark does the same thing and is more versatile in other MU's. I mean if they name black on Iona, ok I have a blue answer. I don't really think Iona is that big of a bomb against us due to the different answers in the deck(which is also why TES is great). I, personally, have never had problems with Iona in the reanimator MU.
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Nice one! TES @ GP Amsterdam->I´m looking forward to it :D
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NQN
Nice one! TES @ GP Amsterdam->I´m looking forward to it :D
Welcome back :D thought you disappeared from The Source...
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Bryant Cook
I'll be going back to Pyros.
That definitely seems like the right way to go. Also we probably need to bring back KGrips and/or Wipe Away, as CBTop will likely resurface.
All in all, it's a good day to be a LEDless Dredge and TES player :D
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I'm going to be taking TES to Amsterdam too.. There was a list i saw using Carpet of Flowers, is there any merit to that?
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Hi to everyone my first post on the source , i've 2 simple question^_^
pyros=???
And you think there is some other change to the deck whitout misstep around ?
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Lunarclaw
Hi to everyone my first post on the source , i've 2 simple question^_^
pyros=???
And you think there is some other change to the deck whitout misstep around ?
Pyros = pyroblast/red elemental blast = best counterspell ever printed.
Fundamentally no, but there will be change.
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Tammit67
Yeah, you can bet your ass CBtop will be seeing play again
If I'm correct CounterTop was not having a big sucess before NPH..may be batterskull+stoneforge can change this and ofcourse many old countertop players will go back to the archtype or put CB on their Stoneblade decks.
What I'm think will be happening is that everyone think: "OMFG! Storm is back let's hate it out with 15 SB cards!" and of course our old friend Team America will come back because Standstill , Visions and Jace aren't so broken anymore(they are still good).
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Derayler
Does this mean I have to get LED's again so I can play this deck? FML
This deck was never dead.. I got top8ed 5 of 6 tournaments I played in pos-NPH era... you just needed to adapt your playstyle.But welcome back to the dark side!!
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I'm guessing I'm going to try and run 2 pyroblasts maindeck, and a mix of blasts/swarms in the SB. Then agains, it depends if anyone plays CB in my area.
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Originally Posted by
Bryant Cook
Eh, what it comes down to is how much do you care about Iona? This could replace the second Deathmark, if you did care. I'm unsure if it's worth playing. What does everyone else think?
The angel Iona is not that rampant here so I guess i wont consider that silent departure. Well except if the angel is popular in your meta (reanimator, show and tell and the like decks) or in the meta where you're expecting her to be there, then that card can be added to your SB.
yup, TES deck was not dead even during NPH era. I also topped many tournaments here whether or not my opponent has a set of MM. :) I'll miss MM badly though lols
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I'v been testing PiF in SB and here's the situation I've only came up with this being useful so far. (excluding the showboating situation)
Cards in hand: 2 BW, 2 Dark rit, 1 Rite
Lands in play- Either of the below:
1) U.sea and 2 gold lands
2) U.sea, volcs and 1 gold land
3) 3 gold lands
Using IGG in this situation only generates 8 storm(before tendrils). PiF increases the storm count to 9.
I'll still continue to test this card and hopefully, the people with vast experience playing this deck will be able to unlock it's potential...