One of my opponents even boarded in (and then proceeded to cast) multiple Smash to Smithereens O_O
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One of my opponents even boarded in (and then proceeded to cast) multiple Smash to Smithereens O_O
Yeah, that'll uh... That'll happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnza
Your best bet against Burn continues to be victory by intimidation and blackmail.
It almost sounds like chalice on 2 is better than chalice on 1. Managing both sounds ideal.
Beat Elves in a match with this deck for the first time ever last night. Feels real good lads.
Just don't get discouraged... One time against burn, they price of progressed me, I hydroblasted it and they responded with another price of progress for....22. I've been banefired out of enchantress for exact after starting an open 0-3. I've had my wurmcoil deflecting palmed to kill me when I blocked. All of these scenarios were very demoralizing. Sometimes people just have it!Quote:
Originally Posted by cdnza
Burn feels like a boogieman to me. No one admits they play it, I always seems to play against it once at a large event and no one enjoys loosing to it.
Hi all,
I've been playing the deck and loving it since schniggaz tore up Prague Eternal.
My success has been mixed. A disastrous first event, followed by some solid results. My main difficulty has been mulliganing correctly since many hands have the right colored mana sources and powerful cards, when in actuality there generally seems to be a specific combination of types of cards we need to not fall behind in the first turn or two.
Muliganing aside, there is one deck that I have just been repeatedly massacred by and have not been able to do well against. This enemy, who is uncomfortably popular around here, is R/G Lands. Multiple matches I have faced down turn 2 or turn 3 Marit Lage with no way to deal with even one token, let alone a second if they go for it again in a few turns if we didn't start with a leyline of the void in play.
From what I can tell, our game plan is to land a fast knight and then use Karakas, Wasteland, and Maze of Ith to either stopping the token entering the battlefield or by bouncing or fogging it when it does. The only problem is the later two options are soft to an opposing wasteland unless they are pulled up at instant speed by knight. I'm assuming a Slaughter Games on Life from the Loam makes things easier, but still, I am struggling.
Any advice for beating lands?
Also, in what match ups do you board Slaughter Games? So far I have been brining it in against Lands, Omni, and Miracles depending on their build. Is it generally correct to board games in vs. Miracles? Am I missing other decks?
Finally, I have been playing two Ethersworn Canonists in the board and no Thalias. What matchups would Thalia come in for? Do you all favor 2 of each, 2 of only one of them, or some other combination?
Thanks.
Does anyone have it built online? I'd love to see a video series. I couldn't find anything remotely recent on YouTube, but if anyone has a twitch link I'd be grateful.
Just played against lands last night and the match is pretty miserable. It's basically a lands mirror, just they have a combo and you don't. You need to put them in a position when they have to draw the combo. Sometimes they will just have it and turn 1 or 2 you...there's nothing you can avoid. At least they aren't Belcher!Quote:
Originally Posted by DaDitka
Otherwise make lands life miserable...
Add Leylines, slaughter games and reclaimation sage.
Take away Teeg (does nothing), punishing fires (you won't have time to win this way) and shave some lilianas.
Slaughter games their loam....
Don't forget slaughter games against ANT naming Tendrils! I also boarded it in against miracle/stoneblade. I have slaughter games'd away the batterskull that was searched out off of a stoneforge mystic so I didn't have to deal with it....
Missing the Lilis and do not feel like spending ~300$ on themQuote:
Originally Posted by Moroklumpen
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Originally Posted by Pilhas
If you would like to do a video series, i can borrow you the Lilis online :)
Actually, as a Landsplayer I had hard times beating this deck, especially game1. Played it twice in Lille, once against Christoph Alsheimer, lost both matches 1-2. Chalice locks out a lot, and KOTR / Scavenging Ooze hurt a lot. As you say, a quick token is the best scenario to win. But Lands isn't a dedicated combodeck, so a T2-3 token is not that frequent, as an ideal G1 opening hand consists of loam and exploration rather than the combopieces. Also, against an unknown opponent with (an open) white mana it's a risk to combo out early (StP sets Lands 2 landdrops back). So I presume your opponents know what you're playing, and keep combostrong hands against you.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaDitka
An active Kotr (Karakas, or Wasteland in response to Depths' triggered ability) deals the token pretty well, until then I would delay combopossibilities with Wasteland or Karakas, or even bluff having a Swords in hand. It takes 4 lands/manasources to combo out EOT, so you should at least see it coming (a landsplayer not using his mana is a suspect thing).
Next two weeks I will be abroad on work but we will talk about this for sure :)Quote:
Originally Posted by schniggaz
That's why we should play 1 Depths and 1 Stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by maCHOOga
I would say "that's terrible reasoning", but there's actually no reasoning present. Fact of the matter is that the only way you'd be able to successfully activate that combo against Lands is if you were already in a winning position.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutthroatCasual
Besides, they have more ways to wasteland you, port you and maze of ith you..... I don't believe is a good option at allQuote:
Originally Posted by iamajellydonut
Burn is ever present in my meta, and I can expect to see it in every serious event I play. I have one Zuran Orb in the sideboard at the moment and I'm seriously considering making room for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamajellydonut
I'm so sorry for you.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobart
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Playing in a 1k today I'll post list n results
Hi guys, longtime lurker here, my favourite decks were different maverick variations and jund. Mav didn't use kotr to its fullest though and jund just wasn't anti-blue enough (my meta is exclusively miracles and blue decks). I ended up finding this deck which manipulates my favourite card to its fullest, thank you for designing this deck it's probably my favourite in legacy, or every format.
So on topic, here's my list; http://tappedout.net/mtg-decks/4c-loam-dump-truck/ it's at a nice point now, the changes I'm considering are either removing a gsz for a confidant, or a glacial for a confidant and drs for a scooze as I've ran into the chalice=1 and drs nombo too many times and life gain is a nice upside. The reason I want to remove the gsz is that I just feel the need for card draw more often that not is better and going turn 1, tutor for dryad arbor is (however good) a frustrating play later on in the game when I can't use dryad arbor as an anti-liliana/combat trick.
I'm putting this deck together in paper slowly with the staples first and the the deviat's that vary from list to list, and when it is, I'll post reports and such.
Seriously this deck can do some wicked stuff, I won an Omnitel game this morning (xmage) by having a canno it's out and a kotr in hand and him playing show and tell, he drops emrakul, I drop my knight, he ends turn and I sac a taiga for karakas, he concedes. That's definitely 2nd in my favourite plays against show and tell, that card can really be a gamble sometimes
I played the list that top 8ed the GP with the following sideboard this weekend:
3 Leyline of the Void
2 Slaughter Games
2 Thoughtseize
1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Sulfur Elemental
1 Reclamation Sage
1 Engineered Plague
1 Choke
1 Golgari Charm
1 Toxic Deluge
Deck felt good to play, however I had problems with sideboarding against Mentor Miracles and Grixis control.
Against miracles, I was taking out 3 Punishing Fire, 1 Sylvan Library, 1 Scavenging Ooze and 2 Life from the Loam and putting in 2 Slaughter Games, 1 Thalia, Guardian of Thraben, 1 Engineered Plague, 1 Choke, 1 Reclamation Sage and 1 Sulfur Elemental.
Against Grixis control, I was taking out 1 Deathrite Shaman, 1 Sylvan Library, 1 Gaddock Teeg, 1 Scavenging Ooze and 2 Punishing Fire and putting in 3 Leyline of the Void, 1 Reclamation Sage, 1 Engineered Plague and 1 Choke.
I am pretty sure that I am not sideboarding correctly at all for these matchups, any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!