4 Card Blind

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

Thanks to a few advanced Excel users we now have a proper-looking spreadsheet.
I did not find time to check everything, but assuming you know what you're doing, these are the season standings after round 3:

1. H: 13,3
2. FTW: 12,1
3. maxx!: 9,2
4. Tylert: 8,4
5. alphastryk: 7,4
6. Asthereal (TO): 7,3
7. silkster: 7,2
8. GoblinSmashmaster: 6,1
9. Moosedog: 6
10. Wrath of Pie: 5,9

So H has been killing it so far. Keep it up!

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Good job H! I'll just try to dig myself out of last place.

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EDIT: PS. for the Americans among us:
If you're confused about the 1,3 instead of 1.3 in the spreadsheet and standings, that's because I'm Dutch and use the Dutch version of the Google suite.
In the Netherlands, for numbers we use the comma and the dot the other way around than the Americans do. Never learnt why though. :wink:

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Mainland Europe should be rather similar, although I thought spaces were used rather than dots, so international number format is 10 000 compared to the English format (iirc the UK is the origin) of 10,000.

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

So H has been killing it so far. Keep it up!

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More like "very lucky" than "killing it" though, actually. :laugh:

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Originally Posted by H

More like "very lucky" than "killing it" though, actually. :laugh:

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The last deck was your own creation, be proud! :)

So was the one before. H has been innovating very powerful Pauper decks!

ROUND 4 of SEASON 7: PAUPER BANNATHON has started.

I have PM'ed myself my deck for round 4, so you can start sending me your decks.

DEADLINE: Wednesday the 22th of July, at 11:00AM Central European Time.
(That's my time zone. Pacific Time it'll probably be something like Tuesday night a bit past midnight, so keep that in mind.)

PLEASE NOTE:
The way you send your deck to me matters. Please send it in the way described below, so it doesn't cost me an hour of editing before I can post all the decks.
Please send your deck as follows: Swamp, Swamp, Terror, Dauthi Slayer.
So with card tags around each card, and not above eachother, and with your Username and 4CB S07R04 in the topic.
Don't forget to keep an eye on the banned list. You'll find it in the second post of the thread, or in our Google Spreadsheet.

After the deadline has passed, I will post all decks on the forum here, and you can start puzzling out your scores.
If you have any questions, please read the first two posts of this thread first. If you can't find the answer there, drop a message here. We'll answer a.s.a.p.

Also, if you've been lurking on this thread and looking to join, you can step in anytime, any round. That's no problem at all. Just send me your deck before the deadline, and I'll add you to the competition. :smile:

Happy deck designing everybody! :cool:

24 hours until the deadline, we're at 3 entries. Don't miss out!

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Originally Posted by Asthereal

24 hours until the deadline, we're at 3 entries. Don't miss out!

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i'll send something tomorrow morning. no time today.

And we're complete at the deadline, with one change just after, but also just in time. :cool:

DECKS FOR ROUND 4 OF SEASON 7: Pauper

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords

Please post your scores and cross-check with the opponents.
I'll update the Google Spreadsheet for the season, so you can enter your scores there as well: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...it?usp=sharing

Asthereal's scores for round 4:

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
That's me, borrowing a deck again. :tongue:
2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
We both can't attack profitably. 2-2
3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
We both can't attack profitably. 2-2
4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
Evil presence does work here. 6-0
5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
The regenerator should do it, I'm guessing. I don't see a way around it, and it races two 1/X guys. 0-6
6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
Deathtouch stops your guy, but I don't think I can attack since you'll either make me discard Presence and you'll have Quicksand, or I Presence Quicksand and you make me discard one of my guys. You could also keep Charm back for swampwalk, but if you do that, I actually do get to attack and use all my stuff, so I don't think that's an option. 2-2
7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
Presence and Snuff are blanks. Our guys trade. 2-2
8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
If you Crack first, I'll have a guy. If you play Tremor or your guy first, I'll Presence the Mountain. Either way I end up with two guys versus one. 6-0
9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
Presence is great, but you just make 3 tokens and sit back. I guess we actually draw this? 2-2
10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
I keep Swamp and a guy. Deathtouch allows the trade for two draws. 2-2

Total: 24 points. That's a lot of draws.

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords

1. Asthereal: I can't crack the earth first OTP. So i need to play Githu lavarunner. After that you can evil presence and I can't crack the earth. You'll win both. 0-6 --> 0
2. GoblinSmashmaster: Storm is not good yet :) 6-0 --> 6
3. Alphastryk: Storm is not good yet :) 6-0 --> 12
4. Moosedog: OTP I can cast ghitu lavamancer first. You'll play bog and I can crack the earth for the win. OTD: If I play ghitu first, you'll be able to sack mummy to crack the earth and to play exhume on Crusher. so I crack the earth first for the draw. 4-1 --> 16
5. H: I'll accept H analysis 6-0 --> 22
6. Wrath of Pie: OTP, I can cast Githu, and crack the earth after for the draw, I'll never attack into quicksand or Funeral charm, but you can't outlast, or you don't have a threat. OTD, you cast ancestor, I can cast lavamancer. You play quicksand and outlast. I can crack the earth then. If you sack quicksand, I do the first damage but You'll attack until I have 2 HP left and I have to block because of Funeral Charm. 1-4 --> 23
7. Maxx!: I don't see a line where I don't loose here. If I play githu, you kill it then suspend corpse for the win. If I do nothing, you can suspend corpse and win because I can't kill your swamp and play githu at the same time (But anyway, it doesn't matter). 0-6 --> 23
8. Me.
9. Silkster: I can wipe one round of goblins then you'll do another one. Your first play is allways cane so you can sac it to get back everything if i crack the earth. so I can't crack the earth. If i Githu first, you kill it with seal. And if I do nothing, you sac your land to rebirth and can redo it once i tremor your board. 0-6 --> 23
10. FTW: Corpulent corpse for the win. 0-6 --> 23

Total: 23.

I don't know if metagaming vs storm and tap lands was the best choice :)

10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords

1. Asthereal (TO): You keep Heartstopper + swamp, which trades with Corpse. DD 2-2
2. GoblinSmashmaster: OTP Mind Swords stops the combo. OTD goblins are too fast. WL 3-3
3. alphastryk: OTP Mind Swords stops the combo. OTD goblins are too fast. WL 3-3
4. Moosedog: OTP my 3/3 can race Mummy. OTD I'm a turn too slow, so I block to draw. WD 4-1
5. H: OTP you keep Swamp+Mummy, which loses to Corpse. OTD you can T1 Cry me, and my best line is to discard Corpse and Mind Swords you to draw. WD 4-1
6. Wrath of Pie: OTP you keep Swamp + Ancestor which can block and draw. OTD you can Charm me (I discard Corpse) or play Ancestor, and again we draw after Mind Swords. DD 2-2
7. maxx!: You keep creature + Swamp, which trades with Corpse. DD 2-2
8. Tylert: Exile keeps you a 1/2, and you lose to Corpse. WW 6-0
9. silkster: Exile stops Cane, but you can make 3 1/1s. I can't race, but I can block to draw. DD 2-2

28 points (6 wins, 10 draws, 2 losses)

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
1/2s! I can't beat 1/2s. We stare at each other. DD

2-2

2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Storm mirror is boring. DD

2-2

3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Me

4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins
your turn 1:play tapped land.
my turn 2: I attack, putting you to 14.
your turn 2: Play Mummy.
my turn 3: I attack, Mummy eats 1 goblin and you go to 9.
your turn 3: Make crusher.
my turn 4: attack with 5 goblins, lose 2 of them and you go to 6.
your turn 4: attack with crusher, annihilate my land and 1 goblin.
No way for me to win from here. Its even worse on the draw. LL

0-6

5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins
your turn 1: you make Mummy.
my turn 2: attack for 6, you go to 14.
your turn 2: Dead, sac Mummy kill a goblin.
my turn 3: attack for 5, you go to 9.
your turn 3: leave Dead back to block and regenerate.
my turn 4: attack for 5, Dead blocks 1 and regenerates. you go to 5.
your turn 4: leave Dead back to block and regenerate.
my turn 5: attack for 4, Dead blocks 1 and regenerates. you go to 1. I win this race. W

OTD: I can't beat a discard spell. L

3-3

6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins
your turn 1: play Ancestor (I think getting Ancestor online is better than Charm killing 1 goblin right away)
my turn 2: attack, 5 damage gets through putting you to 15.
your turn 2: Play Quicksand. I *think* you need to pump the ancestor now so it can start eating goblins and you can use Quicksand and Funeral Charm to mop them up.
my turn 3: attack, get 6 through. you go to 9.
your turn 3: Funeral charm a goblin.
my turn 4: attack for 5, 1 dies to a block and 4 get through. You go to 5.
your turn 4: leave up Quicksand
my turn 5: attack for 4, Quicksand eats on and one gets blocked, 2 gets through putting you to 3.
your turn 5: leave the blocker back
my turn 5: attack for 2, lose 1, you go to 2.
from here I don't see way to not draw, as neither of us has profitable attacks. D

OTD: I can't beat a discard spell. L

1-4

7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins.
your turn 1: Swamp, 1/2. (not sure if Sunff Out hitting a goblin is worth it, lets say it is for now). You go to 16 and I lose a goblin.
my turn 2: attack, lose 1 goblin and get 4 through putting you to 11.
your turn 2: suspend Corpse (5)
my turn 3: attack for 4, lose a goblin, get 3 through, putting you to 8.
your turn 3: Corpse to 4.
my turn 4: attack for 3, lose a goblin, get 2 through putting you to 6. This isn't going to get there, and Corpse will make short work of me.
EDIT: Corpse has fear so I can't wait to force a draw. L
I don't see how this is meaningfully different OTD. L

0-6

8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
Tremor! I can't beat that. LL

0-6

9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
This deck is sweet. I also can't beat it. LL

0-6

10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins.
your turn 1: Make Walker, suspend Corpse (5)
my turn 2: attack for 6, 5 gets through the Walker putting you to 15.
your turn 2: Corpse to 4.
my turn 3: attack for 6, 5 gets through the Walker putting you to 10.
your turn 3: Corpse to 3
my turn 4: attack for 6, 5 gets through the Walker putting you to 5.
your turn 4: Corpse to 2.
my turn 4: attack for 6, 5 gets through the Walker putting you to 0. W

OTD: Mind Swords says I do noting. L

3-3

Total: 11

6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence DD
2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens WD
3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens WD
4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher DD
5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead DD
7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse DD
8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner WD
9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane DD
10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords DD

3w15d = 24 points

Still fewer draws than Backbuild, somehow.

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Originally Posted by Tylert

5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead

5. H: OTP: I play GIthu first. you play peat bog. I crack the earth and win. OTD: You play peat bog, I cast crack the earth for the draw. 4-1 --> 20

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Swamp is not Peat Bog.

H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
I am pretty good vs Deathtouch dudes. 6-0

2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
I guess I didn't really think this all the way though, but I lose the race on the Draw. 3-3

3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Same again. 3-3

4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
Hmm, Cry could be good or bad here. I need it to only be able to hit Exhume though.

On the Play, I would play out my Mummy. Moose needs to play Bog. I can't Cry on my turn though. But since Miasmic makes both of us discard, I can't win. I just hold on the Cry, discard the Dead and then force the draw.

When I am on the Draw, I think it ends up the same, since I will always keep the same cards post Miasmic discard. 2-2

5. H: Bye, myself.

6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
So many ways we can just draw, not really any to win. 2-2

7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
Snuff Out can't target my dudes, Heartstoppper isn't good either. I think I can race the Corpse too. 6-0

8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
This is sort of complicated and Tylert, you seem to have analyzed with me having Bog, but I don't.

When I am on the Play, if I were to lead on Cry, you would discard Tremor? Then if you were to Crack, we draw. So, instead, lets try playing the Lavarunner. Then I play Mummy. If you attack, we draw. If you Crack, you win. But me leading on Mummy definitely loses. So I think I lose in any case here. 0-6

9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
I don't think I can beat this.

On the Play, Cry, which Rebirth can just be Discarded. Then, Furnace into Seal and I can't do anything. 0-6

10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
Already covered by FTW, I can draw on the Play, but I lose on the Draw. 1-4

23? I definitely was try to be too cute this round.

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
Presence is evil. 0-6

2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Racing goblins! 6-0

3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
Racing goblins! 6-0

4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
ME

5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
Agree 2-2

6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
I’m going to think about this a little more. I saw your breakdown 2-2

7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
I get snuffed 0-6. *EDIT - Corpse is slower than I thought 6-0

8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
Agree – 1-4

9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
It’s not too often I think of feldon’s cane. Haha. But I’m pretty sure I can race this 6-0

10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
Nice List! OTP-T1 you must choose between corpse or swords b/c my T2 I’ll play mummy making you discard. If you choose corpse then you discard swords and play out walker for kicks but I can still reanimate and win. If you T1 play swords we draw. OTD-you get your corpse suspended and then swords my hand. 1-4 *Edit. You're right you do not need to choose. Still draw though.

Total 18.

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Originally Posted by alphastryk

7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
OTP:
my turn 1: I make 6 goblins.
your turn 1: Swamp, 1/2. (not sure if Sunff Out hitting a goblin is worth it, lets say it is for now). You go to 16 and I lose a goblin.
my turn 2: attack, lose 1 goblin and get 4 through putting you to 11.
your turn 2: suspend Corpse (5)
my turn 3: attack for 4, lose a goblin, get 3 through, putting you to 8.
your turn 3: Corpse to 4.
my turn 4: attack for 3, lose a goblin, get 2 through putting you to 6. This isn't going to get there, and Corpse will make short work of me.
If instead of this entire sequence I just make 6 goblins and stare at you, neither of us ever has profitable attacks so we draw. D
I don't see how this is meaningfully different OTD. D

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corpulent corpse has fear, so your goblins can't block him. i think this is 6-0 for me

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10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
Nice List! OTP-T1 you must choose between corpse or swords b/c my T2 I’ll play mummy making you discard. If you choose corpse then you discard swords and play out walker for kicks but I can still reanimate and win. If you T1 play swords we draw. OTD-you get your corpse suspended and then swords my hand. 1-4

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I don't have to choose. I do it all on turn 1.
Swamp
Suspend Corpse
Cast Walker for 0
Cast Mind Swords, sacrificing Walker as a cost (I don't even pass priority with Walker in play)

The problem is that you can just exile Exhume and Ulamog, keeping the Mummy in hand. Then you can just play the Mummy as a vanilla 2/2 bear and I awkwardly can't race a 2/2 due to the slow Suspend 5. I didn't actually do the math on it before submitting to see how bad Corpse is. When I go first, I can just barely race you because your land enters tapped and that costs you a turn. When you go first, Corpse can't race your 2/2 so he has to stay on defense.

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Originally Posted by maxx!

corpulent corpse has fear, so your goblins can't block him. i think this is 6-0 for me

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Yep, you're right. Updating.

GoblinSmashmaster Results for Round "Alphastryk did the math"

1. Asthereal (TO): Swamp, Skittering Heartstopper, Skittering Heartstopper, Evil Presence
Goblins scare easily 2-2

2. GoblinSmashmaster: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
That's me!

3. alphastryk: Mountain, Rite of Flame, Rite of Flame, Empty the Warrens
That's not me! 2-2

4. Moosedog: Peat bog, Miasmic mummy, Exhume, Ulamog’s crusher
Ulamog smashes more 0-6

5. H: Swamp, Cry of Contrition, Festering Mummy, Kjeldoran Dead
Goblins smash! 3-3

6. Wrath of Pie: Swamp, Quicksand, Disowned Ancestor, Funeral Charm
Goblins dissed and owned 1-4

7. maxx!: Swamp, Snuff Out, Skittering Heartstopper, Corpulent Corpse
Goblins feel the fear 0-6

8. Tylert: Mountain, Crack the earth, Tremor, Ghitu lavarunner
Goblins fall into a chasm 0-6

9. silkster: Great Furnace, Seal of Fire, Kuldotha Rebirth, Feldon's Cane
Your goblins smash! :( 0-6

10. FTW: Swamp, Corpulent Corpse, Phyrexian Walker, Mind Swords
Goblins smash! 3-3

Total: 11 points.