[Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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10-01-2011, 07:27 PM
thefringthing

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Pulp_Fiction

You board 1 in and keep one in the side. I wouldn't play 2 Deathmark though, I personally like 1 Oust and 1 Deathmark.

I'll probably be running a 1 Deathmark, 1 Innocent Blood split, since my local metagame has some Hive Mind, Reanimator, and Hypergenesis decks.
10-02-2011, 12:34 AM
jin

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Pulp_Fiction

rockstar summed up why Swarm is good, almost regardless.

There is very little setup for PiF. You either have rituals or not. Ideally you have IT, BW, DRit, LED, Rite in hand. Cast Infernal Tutor doubling up Rite and pass the turn, then next turn BW into PiF and win. Problem is it requires a lot of specific cards to win and is conditional, but the card is good enough that it should be run since it will not bring back counters or hate cards like Trap. I don't see why you wouldn't run both, I win with IGG all of the time (when I play TES in a tournament), why would you want to just throw it away for a conditional win card? Play both.

Grid gets Dazed ... so, 1 less counter, if you expect Daze, just run a Petal out there before casting. I like Swarm in this spot but grid certainly has its merits.

Yes, that makes sense for Xantid Swarm.

Yeah, that's what I thought. I think Past in Flames should be run alongside IGG. I think IGG is too important to not play especially against aggro decks. Past in Flames seems more like a lategame card against blue and discard rather than an alaternative wincon vs aggro decks. That's why I think Past in Flames should replace DR because it's function is to negate the oppoent's hand disruption and to win without using life. I think Past in Flames does this. It also doesn't require Orim's Chant nor does it refill their hand.

Don't you think paying for Daze with Lotus Petal is bad? I think I would rather the Daze resolve.. Then again, letting Daze do anything isn't very good. I just don't think this deck should lose to Daze. hmm..
10-02-2011, 02:50 PM
Tammit67

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Anusien

I don't think you understand probability...

Probability is the expected long run outcome distribution of some event in the sample space. This means if you perform the experiment infinitely, the limit as you approach infinity of the proportion of successes over the total number of trials approaches some number, hopefully the number Bryant has posted. If we hold the percentages that Bryant has in the primer to be true, then the reason people do not personally experience these percentages is because anything can happen over finite trials, aka the short run.

It's like the lottery, just because you net positive on your third ticket doesn't mean you don't go bankrupt if you keep playing. It is simply bad beats.

So where exactly do I fail to understand probability?
10-02-2011, 03:36 PM
Norm

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

TES just had back to back turn one kills on camera at SCG Indianapolis, can't wait for that feature match to get added to the primer :)
10-02-2011, 04:04 PM
UnderwaterGuy

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Norm

TES just had back to back turn one kills on camera at SCG Indianapolis, can't wait for that feature match to get added to the primer :)

It was pretty awesome. Elves didn't stand a chance.
10-02-2011, 05:09 PM
McSkilled

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Norm

TES just had back to back turn one kills on camera at SCG Indianapolis, can't wait for that feature match to get added to the primer :)

Ok now we just need to play it off so we don't see LED on the ban list update. >.>
10-02-2011, 05:29 PM
BlueNevus

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

Ad Nauseum should be banned before LED. Banning LED would remove Tendrils Storm from the metagame entirely, banning Ad Nauseum would not; that would only remove its 'I win' button.
10-02-2011, 06:14 PM
lorddotm

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by UnderwaterGuy

It was pretty awesome. Elves didn't stand a chance.

Who was playing TES?

Just had my deck shit on me for a tournament.
10-02-2011, 06:40 PM
NesretepNoj

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by lorddotm

Who was playing TES?

Jason R. Golembiewski
10-02-2011, 07:36 PM
DragoFireheart

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

I played my Counterblade deck against my friends TES deck.

Um, Empty the Warrens loses to an active Batterskull. Best to avoid going that route if you are going against a deck using SFM->Batterskull.
10-02-2011, 07:37 PM
Bryant Cook

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by DragoFireheart

I played my Counterblade deck against my friends TES deck.

Um, Empty the Warrens loses to an active Batterskull. Best to avoid going that route if you are going against a deck using SFM->Batterskull.

Thanks, but we all kind of figured this out a few months ago.
10-02-2011, 07:52 PM
DragoFireheart

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Bryant Cook

Thanks, but we all kind of figured this out a few months ago.

- I figured but I still wanted to reiterate the point. I was suprised myself to see it do so well against ETW tokens. The lack of MMS doesn't mean that SFM/BS is going away.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on CBT decks making a comeback? Do you think people will bother despite vial decks that are likely to make a resurgence?
10-02-2011, 09:06 PM
gamer4life

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

Forgive me im new to diminishing returns. Does it shuffle back into your deck? I would think it does,but that just seems to good.
10-02-2011, 09:12 PM
Bryant Cook

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by DragoFireheart

- I figured but I still wanted to reiterate the point. I was suprised myself to see it do so well against ETW tokens. The lack of MMS doesn't mean that SFM/BS is going away.

Anyways, what are your thoughts on CBT decks making a comeback? Do you think people will bother despite vial decks that are likely to make a resurgence?

Read the last page or two of the thread. I expressed my thoughts there.

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Originally Posted by gamer4life

Forgive me im new to diminishing returns. Does it shuffle back into your deck? I would think it does,but that just seems to good.

No.
10-02-2011, 09:32 PM
Namida

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by gamer4life

Forgive me im new to diminishing returns. Does it shuffle back into your deck? I would think it does,but that just seems to good.

To clarify, Until you've performed all of the actions on the card, Diminishing Returns is still on the stack. Diminishing Returns goes into your graveyard as the final part of resolving the spell.
10-02-2011, 09:58 PM
Jeff Kruchkow

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

Well for all his trash talk and thoughts that TES is worse than ANT, Ari Lax just got 2-0'ed at SCG Indy by it. Wrecked.
10-02-2011, 10:01 PM
vercadium

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kruchkow

Well for all his trash talk and thoughts that TES is worse than ANT, Ari Lax just got 2-0'ed at SCG Indy by it. Wrecked.

Ironically by Empty the Warrens and Orim's Chant. What was that about training wheels? :P
10-02-2011, 10:04 PM
Pulp_Fiction

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

While TES is simply better than ANT anyway .... that guy could be playing any combo deck against ANT and winning ... thats just running fucking good, nothing u can do to stop him, hope his good fortune holds. I'd like to see a skill intensive deck win one of these SCG events.
10-02-2011, 10:04 PM
UnderwaterGuy

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by Jeff Kruchkow

Well for all his trash talk and thoughts that TES is worse than ANT, Ari Lax just got 2-0'ed at SCG Indy by it. Wrecked.

Ari was unlucky, it's not like two games provides a good example of a matchup.
10-02-2011, 10:07 PM
Bryant Cook

Re: [Deck] T.E.S - The EPIC Storm

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Originally Posted by UnderwaterGuy

Ari was unlucky, it's not like two games provides a good example of a matchup.

Chant is a blow-out in this match-up, let Ari go off, in response to Infernal Tutor, Chant you? It's definitely in TES's favor.

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