[Deck] Zoo

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Originally Posted by Nekrataal

I chose Apes over Lions to not rely even more on W ( I feared Tempo too much in my meta). Especially with Fireblast main it is better to focus on red. BEB/Hydroblast didn't hit me once. PoP unfortunately didn't show up in the only two matchups it mattered (bant, loam). I cannot remember it showed up against the tribal matchups as well, so at least this was OK. I like it main because either it is clearly amazing and otherwise it is clearly the first card to be easily boarded. I expected a lot of Bant and decks playing duals so the choice was not to play it in the Sb but maindeck. However I was very pleased with Gaddock the whole tournament. It was great against Loam and Bant and otherwise can go into the red zone G1.

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Agreed with all of that, I just wanted to confirm suspicions.

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Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch

I am not doubting the potency of PoP. I run it as a 3of in my Sideboard. I just don't like the way the deck is going, or the format for that matter. Everything is becoming like SO MUCH FASTER in such a short amount of time. It's pretty damn bad when the Control decks can't handle the combo decks.

I am not making fun of people for running Lynx/Fireblast at all. It's just sad that this deck has to speed up even more. I hate running inconsistent cards, and I'm sorry but those cards are inconsistent, and I'm fairly certain that almost everyone will agree with me here, for once.

It does absolutely nothing. Even the Zoo-ru has his mindfarts :frown:

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Mid-range esque Zoo decks were pretty sweet back during the winter, like Tom Ross's winning list from some 5k.

But lets be real here, a mid-range deck with no Thoughtseizes or Force of Wills is not getting there against NO Countertop or Reanimator.

I dont understand all this talk about Zoo being a midrange deck. Zoo has never been a midrange deck, it has always been an early game deck which happens to have a strong midgame too. The new builds with Lynxes and stuff might be even faster but that doesn't mean that the 'classic' Zoo has suddenly become a midrange deck.

I agree with the above. I don't consider zoo a midrange deck either. However, I do believe that the early game shouldn't be focused on to the point where the midrange power is lost. Though, because of the types of cards we get, I think that it's pretty hard to lose that now.

Lol, of course Zoo is a fast aggro deck and not a midrange deck. I dont unterstand why you're talking about it. And everybody who says that Fireblast is wrong in Zoo doesnt know how this deck works... and the discussion about Lion>>Ape is dispensable, too. Ape blocks always better than Lion, because you need the Savannah to block a Kird Ape in the mirror and you want so fetch always a Taiga.
Gaddock Teeg doesnt harmonizes with your own Fireblast but on a tournament with a lot of ANT builds it is solid in main.

Opponents will gladly let you run your Teeg into a bigger blocker so that you can FB them. Or they fear that and let him through, so either way mission accomplished.

Ah yes, Mystical Tutor is banned. I guess Wizards heard the Zoo-ru's pleas for help and granted me my wish. Good times, good times.

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Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch

Ah yes, Mystical Tutor is banned. I guess Wizards heard the Zoo-ru's pleas for help and granted me my wish. Good times, good times.

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Dammm you Zoo-ru... You'll Pay for this!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by menace13

Dammm you Zoo-ru... You'll Pay for this!!!!!!!!

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Like I was seriously thinking about taking an extended break from Legacy or quitting even because I couldn't play what I wanted to play, but this seriously balancing shit out. I've known how good a deck Reanimator has been since before it got popular as hell. I've been scared of it, and scared of Combo too. I haven't even bothered SB cards to fight ANT because it's such an abysmal matchup.

I have lost several games to combo just because I didn't get that key turn I needed to make another land drop for burn. Now that problem is fixed. I played Dragon Stompy last night because that's how fucking fast the format is. I did well too. I guess it's time for my comeback with the foil Nacatls I've had since GP:Chicago.

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Originally Posted by Loxodon Baileyarch

I guess it's time for my comeback with the foil Nacatls I've had since GP:Chicago.

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Nah, DCI will just unban Oath next June.

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Originally Posted by menace13

Nah, DCI will just unban Oath next June.

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They'll ban everything until Shock is good, then they'll ban Shock.

Uh, did you see the results of the last 2 SCG Opens. Zoo was doing pretty good. Now it will be Countertop decks with 1 Million Creature removal spells.

IMO neutering combo will be to the long term detriment of zoo and the rise of Old School nuke your board control.

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Originally Posted by jazzykat

IMO neutering combo will be to the long term detriment of zoo and the rise of Old School nuke your board control.

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At least I don't die turn 3 without a fighting chance to those decks. Doesn't seem too bad to me. I've beaten UWB Landstill several times even though that deck is removal.dec

Yeah, playing less goldfish matches makes Legacy a better format. In the end, nothing is unwinnable, and I am just glad "my deck" didn't get neutered.

Yeah like I guess it's time that everyone starts discussing boarding strategies for Countertop again, for that big blue boogie man is gonna come back again.

But to be fair, in my meta, all the kids still play TobascoTop to honor him or something. So I guess it won't be anything different for me.

CT is a winnable matchup, maybe it is time for Burning-Tree Shaman to shine (again?) Teegs and Grips keep it honest

However, the mirror should probably be addressed as well, as those not already playing CT/Tribes will probably scraping together a zoo list.

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Originally Posted by jandax

CT is a winnable matchup, maybe it is time for Burning-Tree Shaman to shine (again?) Teegs and Grips keep it honest

However, the mirror should probably be addressed as well, as those not already playing CT/Tribes will probably scraping together a zoo list.

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Winnable, but in my meta it's miserable for Zoo. It's always CBTop, Sower, Shackles, recurring EE. Sounds miserable eh? Well it is.

The mirror is just outdrawing them, and my new tech card, ORDER OF THE WHITECLAY! But seriously, Order of The Whiteclay.

Yeah, that is pretty miserable. I play either Zoo or Dredge because I feel one deck is right for any given tournament.

But seriously, Order of the Whiteclay?

Dear Zoo players.

Congrats on having the best deck in the format

Love,
The Former ANT players

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Originally Posted by jandax

Yeah, that is pretty miserable. I play either Zoo or Dredge because I feel one deck is right for any given tournament.

But seriously, Order of the Whiteclay?

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When I play Dredge, I don't feel like I'm playing Magic. I hate combo oriented decks, always have. The deck is really good, but I can't bring myself to play it. I guess if I wanted want to JUST win, I'd play a deck like that.

And HELL YES. Unless Zoo has a PTE then it's just like, LOLZ THANKS FOR MY D00DS BACK!

@honestabe: Don't be bitter brah. Just cause you can't goldfish doesn't mean ya gotta hate on us :D