[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

It's interesting to note that some Legacy only cards have taken a dip in pricing in the last few weeks.

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Which ones?

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Originally Posted by Mr.C

It's interesting to note that some Legacy only cards have taken a dip in pricing in the last few weeks.

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such as?

I have not played in about a year but kept my cards. I like to keep my collection up to date just in case. I few months ago I had gone in this shop and got a full set of shocks for about $7-$8 each give or take a buck either way then he gave me a discount becasue I was buying so many cards.

I went yesterday and there was some people in playing and I had a list of cards I wanted and current Motl prices for them. I purchased a few cards and the shop owner was kinda joking with me about how good of an investment I had made in my shocklands right before they jumped. A bunch of cards on my list are @ the under $5 range and he didn't have some in stock so he told me to ask the players. I told him I didn't have any trade stuff with me. SO he was going to let me buy. So I went looking through binders and offering prices $1-$2 above motl for a couple of pieces on my list to finish play sets off. I had 3 different people tell me they do not want to sell just in case the cards goes up in value.

WTF I then asked what do they do if it drops in value down to worthless. I was told that Magic cards on average no longer really lose value once a set is no longer in print.

With this kind of mentality it is no wonder prices are skyrocketing on cards that have a large supply compared to the actual usefulness of the card. You have players sitting on the afraid it may become the next overnight sensation. Players wanting the cards to complete collections/EDH/Modern/janky bathtub brews...etc. I see a huge bubble here just waiting to pop. Once the first numbers from Modern get posted I see cards not being played flooding the market. The problem is so many people just net deck but there are not very many decks being posted yet so people are afraid to get rid of that one card that may see a top 8 deck.

I have not played in about a year but kept my cards. I like to keep my collection up to date just in case. I few months ago I had gone in this shop and got a full set of shocks for about $7-$8 each give or take a buck either way then he gave me a discount becasue I was buying so many cards.

I went yesterday and there was some people in playing and I had a list of cards I wanted and current Motl prices for them. I purchased a few cards and the shop owner was kinda joking with me about how good of an investment I had made in my shocklands right before they jumped. A bunch of cards on my list are @ the under $5 range and he didn't have some in stock so he told me to ask the players. I told him I didn't have any trade stuff with me. SO he was going to let me buy. So I went looking through binders and offering prices $1-$2 above motl for a couple of pieces on my list to finish play sets off. I had 3 different people tell me they do not want to sell just in case the cards goes up in value.

WTF I then asked what do they do if it drops in value down to worthless. I was told that Magic cards on average no longer really lose value once a set is no longer in print.

With this kind of mentality it is no wonder prices are skyrocketing on cards that have a large supply compared to the actual usefulness of the card. You have players sitting on the afraid it may become the next overnight sensation. Players wanting the cards to complete collections/EDH/Modern/janky bathtub brews...etc. I see a huge bubble here just waiting to pop. Once the first numbers from Modern get posted I see cards not being played flooding the market. The problem is so many people just net deck but there are not very many decks being posted yet so people are afraid to get rid of that one card that may see a top 8 deck.

Alright, question to the guys who used to play Extended. How much were the Shocklands at their peak?

Seriously, whats happening to this game.

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Originally Posted by (nameless one)

Alright, question to the guys who used to play Extended. How much were the Shocklands at their peak?

Seriously, whats happening to this game.

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Even in standard I don't think they ever went up above about $20 except perhaps in the hype right after release. Of course, I was in high school and had no money, so that seemed like a lot for somebody used to playing cheap casual decks.

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

I scooped up some Gifts Ungiven this week. I'm not buying into the Modern hype, it's just a card I wanted a playset of for a while and I'd rather not pay $50 for them later when I could just get them quickly for $20.

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That's how I feel about most cards I buy. I don't want to screw myself if and when later on they spike.

I don't know about extended but in standard the most any of them hit was 22-23 for Hallowed Fountains and for a time Breeding Pool. The rest were all 20 or lower, the blues being 20 and the others around 18ish. As far as I recall they stayed that way through most of the standard season but I might be wrong about that.

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Originally Posted by dontbiteitholmes

I scooped up some Gifts Ungiven this week. I'm not buying into the Modern hype, it's just a card I wanted a playset of for a while and I'd rather not pay $50 for them later when I could just get them quickly for $20.

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I played a random game with a friend's deck (Modern) and cast Gift on my opponent's 4th turn for the first time in years... and it felt good.

Bought a playset 10 minutes later. I had been meaning to for a while, and the timing felt right.

Fast-forward 2 weeks, the card has tripled in price from what I paid. Below 10$ I'd say this is a rather safe buy. Related note, Loam can still be found below 10$ if you look around. Another one worth picking up sooner than later if you haven't already.

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Originally Posted by Magic Fanatic

I have not played in about a year but kept my cards. I like to keep my collection up to date just in case. I few months ago I had gone in this shop and got a full set of shocks for about $7-$8 each give or take a buck either way then he gave me a discount becasue I was buying so many cards.

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Then now sounds like a really amazing time to sell off that set of shocks and pay back everyone who sent you a bunch of free shit a couple years ago when your collection was allegedly stolen.

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Originally Posted by Comrade

Then now sounds like a really amazing time to sell off that set of shocks and pay back everyone who sent you a bunch of free shit a couple years ago when your collection was allegedly stolen.

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I did not get a bunch of stuff when my collection was stolen. I have the police reports still in storage some place just in case he ever comes back to town.

I have paid it forward every year with the Christmas Secret Santa. If you look at the site I have sent out way more then I ever received. I think I received about $100 worth of cards at the time. I send about $100 or so worth of cards every secret Santa. Yes I do receive stuff via Secret Santa also but I always try to go above and beyond for this site. Even with legacy being dead every were within 100 miles or so around me Legacy is still my favorite format and that is becasue of this site. So STFU. And Stalk much you have been a member for 8 months and you really went that far back into the archives to read that...unless your a returning banned member.

Hey, all! Aaron Forsythe just confirmed they are going to reprint modern staples as they are required to avoid the availability problems that plague legacy.

Because Tarmogoyf IS going to become a modern staple unless it gets banned, this means that its price will become lower one way or another.

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Originally Posted by DrJones

Hey, all! Aaron Forsythe just confirmed they are going to reprint modern staples as they are required to avoid the availability problems that plague legacy.

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source please. thanks :smile:

He said it on a public chat, but his words were transcribed in this twitter post that I don't know how much time will be online:

http://twitter.com/#!/Cloudscraper/s...46568185491456

People that are not playing the game much and keeping cards around solely for speculation purposes should start dumping a few (newly)overpriced things they will never play... As DrJones points out, staples prices *will* take a hit in the long run, just like everydoby predicted when we saw all the staples, or even prospect staples rise like crazy.

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Originally Posted by DrJones

Hey, all! Aaron Forsythe just confirmed they are going to reprint modern staples as they are required to avoid the availability problems that plague legacy.

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This is good news, pending appropriate execution of these reprints.

The whole reason Modern exists as a format is to provide players a cheaper alternative to Eternal without conflicting with the reserved list, which I think is a decent reason to have a format. It does not exist because it is inherently a superior format, absent any financial considerations. I think if you asked a bunch of random Magic players, the vast majority would much rather play Legacy, and that before all the nerdraging over the Mirrodin/8th cutoff and the new banned list.

But so far, we have a Modern format that has allowed for rampant speculation, to the point that many Modern decks are significantly more expensive than cheaper versions of competitive Legacy decks. Moreover, the speculation has had a collateral effect of jacking up the prices on post-Mirrodin Legacy staples, further escalating the barrier into Legacy. And I say this not as someone who has been locked out of the Legacy format for financial reasons, but as someone with the Legacy staples necessary to play every single Legacy DTB and the vast majority of the Established decks (except for only three Vendilion Cliques :mad: stupid Modern :mad: /endrant).

TL;DR we have a new format that isn't really that great on its own merits, but would purportedly decrease the entry cost into Eternal. Except the entry cost into that format is still really steep (probably more so than Legacy less than a year ago), and it's increased the cost of Legacy staples. Total fail all around.

First Mythics and now reprints based on card availability and price? I really hope this is not turning into Yuh Gi Oh. Just have to hope we don't see foil Tarmogoyfs and Confidants reprinted as a common in a special set like that game does.

I think it's great they are doing reprints. Hopefully that will also give speculators a slap in the face because a bunch of the cards they invested in now losst a lot of value and that will maybe stop them speculating so hard in the future and therefore stops cards making such overnight jumps in price.

I think there is a big chance we are going to see goyfs somewhere in the inistrand block. Goyf is futureshifted so it Should come back and goyfs is a graveyard based card. Perfect for inistrand .. I'm really hoping for it! because local shops are already asking 90€ for it ! ( aprox 125 dollar ) wich is ridiculous!

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

First Mythics and now reprints based on card availability and price? I really hope this is not turning into Yuh Gi Oh.

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Originally Posted by dahcmai

First Mythics and now reprints based on card availability and price? I really hope this is not turning into Yuh Gi Oh.

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