[Deck] Imperial Painter

Don't worry about that ringo; this is a imperial painter thread (mono R/ shortcake variant) discussions of other archetypes need to happen on either the specific thread or perhaps in a developing/brewing thread. We would love to help you out Joef but we just don't want that conversation here.

For those going to Indy make sure to sleep tonight, so no late night parties and cramming. The weather will be chilly 30's with little to no snowfall. There will be no repeat of last year. Good luck have fun and drive/fly safe. See you there Saturday morning.

Safe travels everyone. This drive will be cake compared to the ridiculous drive to gp new jersey last year!
I'll be getting there this evening. Hope some of us bump into each other. I'll post the list I'm bringing once I hit the road.

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Originally Posted by Uroborian

For those going to Indy make sure to sleep tonight, so no late night parties and cramming.

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Ever since I switched to first shift I feel like an old man. I'll be surprised if I make it to 8:30 without passing out. :wink:

Good luck, dudez!

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Originally Posted by joef

After a long hiatus from magic I am toying with this deck. I put together a different variation using UB... Here it is

Lands
4 x Underground Sea
4 x Ancient Tomb
4 x Polluted Delta
4 x Misty Rainforest
2 x Bloodstained Mire
1 x Swamp
1 x Island
1 x Volrath's Stronghold (bring painters back)

Spells
4 x Lion's Eye Diamond (sac to tutor or 2nd turn win)
4 x Grindstone
4 x Painter's Servant
1 x Sensei's Divining Top
4 x Force of Will
4 x Brainstorm
4 x Ponder
3 x Gitaxian Probe (check to see if they have counter)
2 x Daze
2 x Intuition (I will usually grab lion's eye or painter)
1 x Spell Pierce
3 x Thoughtseize (check to see if they have counter... and remove counter)
3 x Infernal Tutor

Thoughts? Suggestions?

I Did have trinket mage in here but the intuition's and tutors seem enough.

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I would suggest the same thing. I will just comment by saying that the black seems unnecessary in the deck. If you are using infernal tutor to grab something then you are all in by either having an empty hand or cracking LED to empty your hand. This makes counterspells terrible. You should look at the blue/red welder/painter builds. They seem to fit what you are trying to do much better. There was a top 8 finish at SCG Minneapolis a few months ago that you could reference.


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Rock and roll!

Well starting out 0-2.
Hopefully I can pull out wins enough to make day 2. Hope you fellow painters are doing better

I'm 1-1. Lost to Jeskai Stoneblade in 3 due to mull to 4 game 3.

5-3.

Wins: 12 Post, Rw Painter, Bye, MUD, SnS.

Loss: Jeskai Stoneblade, RUG Delver, Dark Maverick.

Ended 4-5;
losses to
psuedo-manages dredge (has forest and dryad arbor for natures claim and landfall triggeres on bloodghast)
ANT storm.
Sneak and show
Miracles
Storm (using empty the warrens)

Wins
dredge
aluren
Jeskai delver
ANT storm

*spoiler* my deck list isn't R/W painter per say.

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Originally Posted by Anarky87

I'm 1-1. Lost to Jeskai Stoneblade in 3 due to mull to 4 game 3.

5-3.

Wins: 12 Post, Rw Painter, Bye, MUD, SnS.

Loss: Jeskai Stoneblade, RUG Delver, Dark Maverick.

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So your telling me there's a chance...

That painter mirror was fun to watch for sure!

Yeah, managed to go 5-4 and throw away my day 2 ticket by playing some of the worst magic I've ever played in the last round. I was pretty disappointed with my play today. Oh well, Modern tomorrow.

Did awful today too. went 2-4 drop and losing 2 close game 3s against UWR delver and DnT to both well timed wastelands. I did beat Burn and BUG delver.

Its a shame but what can you do. Still love painter and still hate playing against DnT.

I find playing against dnt not that bad personally but I've also had the opportunity to test it a lot. 4 players at my lgs

So after this weekend I feel like canonist in main should go back to revoker. Revoker works well in so many match ups and does ok in others. Where as canonist does amazing in a select few matches and almost nothing in others.

Shortcake (as of 2/1/2014)

4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
1 Great Furnace
5 Red Fetches
4 Mountain
2 plateau

4 Imperial Recruiter
4 Painter's Servant
3 Goblin Welder
2 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

4 Blood Moon

4 Grindstone
3 Lotus Petal
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 engineered explosives

4 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 enlightened tutor
2 ensnaring bridge

The board

4 Firebolt
2 Pyroclasm
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Rest in Peace
1 trinisphere
1 thorn of amethyst
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Duergar hedge-mage
1 Daretti, Scrap Savant
1 koth

This is where I'm at now. I chose to handle creature and blue decks with the main and hoping for variance in the combo match. Bridges and pyros for the dnt and elves. Plus beating miracles with koth. Going to run this for 100 matches. I'll report back later.

Kapn: Is there any videos of you playing Shortcake on youtube or Twitch I can watch to get a feel for how you pilot the deck? I have not had great success with the deck even after reading the thread twice over... or is there any streamer you would suggest watching?

here's a link to his games. http://www.twitch.tv/kapncook/profile

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Shortcake (as of 2/1/2014)

4 Ancient Tomb
3 City of Traitors
1 Great Furnace
5 Red Fetches
4 Mountain
2 plateau

4 Imperial Recruiter
4 Painter's Servant
3 Goblin Welder
2 Simian Spirit Guide
1 Magus of the Moon
1 Jaya Ballard, Task Mage

4 Blood Moon

4 Grindstone
3 Lotus Petal
2 Sensei's Divining Top
1 engineered explosives

4 Pyroblast
3 Red Elemental Blast
3 enlightened tutor
2 ensnaring bridge

The board

4 Firebolt
2 Pyroclasm
1 Tormod's Crypt
1 Rest in Peace
1 trinisphere
1 thorn of amethyst
1 Ethersworn Canonist
1 Ensnaring Bridge
1 Duergar hedge-mage
1 Daretti, Scrap Savant
1 koth

This is where I'm at now. I chose to handle creature and blue decks with the main and hoping for variance in the combo match. Bridges and pyros for the dnt and elves. Plus beating miracles with koth. Going to run this for 100 matches. I'll report back later.

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No Phyrexian Revoker anywhere in the 75? He's been a catch-all answer for me for such a long time that I can't imagine playing without one main and another side.


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Revoker, blast 8, and assemble are my 76-78 right now. I agree revoker is great, but considering how creature saturated the field is (elves, dnt, all delver, leftover pyros) I think pyroclasm may be better. Not to mention most decks where revoker really shines should be favorable anyway with welders and ee picking up the slack (mainly thinking chalice decks and using ee to destroy jitte/leftover deathrites after a moon. Yes storm takes a hit but game 1 is usually variance on what kind of hand you kept if you didnt know they're on storm. Kind of the same reason I moved canonist back to the side). Not to mention having 5 ways to find bridge game 1 should allow us to steal most games against rug, sneak etc.

Again I could be completely wrong, but that's why I'll be running the no-revoke list for a bunch of games to see if it's actually missed.

Returned to Painter for the daily last night in MTGO and was rewarded with Burn matchups in Rounds 1 and 2. Even stalled the game out and had hands that were about as good as it gets, and still went 0-2, 1-2. I wish there was some tech for that matchup. It's already started to ramp back up online.