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Hi dudes, how do you think TES works against this deck ?
http://www.mtgthesource.com/forums/s...s-cabal-minion
TY :)
Choux,
I think TES is too fast for that to really work, that deck cannot stop us from having mana or playing artifacts on our turn. Chalice at zero or one would help it, and the hymn in the SB are good, but it cannot rely on turn one trinisphere, and I can brainstorm all day in response to minion on my upkeep killing a land.
Don't Vindicate/Sink Waste Rish put problem ? ( I did only play ANT storm so I don't know )
You cannot sink hole, port, or waste a fetchland(although TES has less than ANT), you have to do both, and if your spending two cards so I don't get two lands in play I am probably in pretty good shape. Furthermore, without chalice of the void I can get all the mana i need from a land I play the turn I go off, especially since I do not have to play around Daze or any other instant speed disruption.
What do you guys think of Silent Departure? I am trying to fit in one in my sideboard(Bryants list) but can't really find space
Bryant and I talked about it and we like Deathmark more in TES since you dont need to use it on the turn you go off.Quote:
Originally Posted by HokusSchmokus
So, why do you guys run both Deathmark and Grapeshot? I know guys like Bryant love to grapeshot people's faces, but I feel that isn't really a valid reason to run both.
Because you can get out of hate with Grapeshot. Ethersword canonist and Teeg being the two most common targets.
I have won countless games off of that Grapeshot I had no business winning. Sometimes you are forces to mini Tendrils someone. Sometimes someone is a douche. There are plenty of justifiable reasons to include Grapeshot. However, you do not have to run it if you don't want, that is the beautiful thing about Magic.Quote:
Originally Posted by OurSerratedDust
Grapeshot is the only reason I play this deck anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by lorddotm
I found something cool (although not very useful) you can do with this deck today. I had double leyline of sanctity come against me in game two of goblins. I had only boarded in one echoing truth, but I was able to get it post nauseam by casting past in flames and tutoring for it, then flashing back the tutor for tendrils.
I goldfished a few hands after and found I could reliably get a singletone bounce (or any) spell post ad nauseam buy tutor chaining with Past in Flames. This may open up side board options down the road if there is any problems that can be addressed by one card in a similar situation, or free up one bounce slot from wipe away.
Played today Brazilian Legacy Championship, I opened 4-0 and just needed another win to ID and lock top8 but I got a bit unlucky against Canadian and Bant Blade(on rounds 5 and 6) losing to 1-2 on both matchs taking down my chances of top8.. also I got the featured match on round 4 so I grapeshoted my opp(UBG Landstill) both games, I know the quality of image isn't perfect but here is the video(comments in portuguese).
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/18503948
Thx.
Great job on the kid manQuote:
Originally Posted by Bryant Cook
I have been playing this deck for a while, and I have found Pyroclasm to be better than Deathmark. The Teeg/Canonist decks are aggro decks anyways, and it can act as a nice reset button. Double Canonist is a pain, and Pyroclasm is another way of dealing with them.
I feel the same way about hatebears, but goyf, knight, and terravore /etc are still better answered by deathmark.
True. I guess I just don't worry about these cards. We're probably going to win before Knight and Terravore can attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by John Cox
Kind of. Canonist is like the worst thing this deck can see, since if there are two bears out you need a lot of artifact mana all of a sudden to make the Grapeshot you Wished for work. Sometimes this is easy but yeah, sometimes just Wishing>Pyroclasm is easier.
I personally run a 1-of Virtues Ruin with 1 Deathmark and bounce in the sb (No PiF)
One question, against bant in the post from first page you say that we have to sideboard: -1 Infernal Tutor, -1 Ponder, -1 Chrome Mox, +3 Pyroblast .
I dont know if this is correct, because they are going to sideboard against teps cannonist and gaddocks a lot of times.
Do you think that isn't necessary to sideboard echoing truth because we have enought with burning wish for finding answers to their posible hatebears ?
Thank you, and excuse me for my english.
From my point of view, the pyroblast are there to protect you once you start going.Quote:
Originally Posted by kiwi
Don't worry about those hate creatures, burning wish into whatever you have in your SB to kill them, whether that be pyroclasm, deathmark, grapeshot, etc.
RE: PiF
I've read a lot of comment on it. so anyone here actually used it in a tournament? How did i do?
In my play testing, i tried to use it via burning wish. I kinda like it actually. Its like Y.will for instants and sorceries.
I think if ever 'll be playing TES, I'd use both, IGG and PiF.
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congrats on your T8 finish cook.
I've read your report
Jedi mind tricking is another way to win using this deck.
grapeshot for 50 = that's brutal... but i like it
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