[Official] Bitching About Prices, Buyouts and Reprints Thread

There is no disincentive whatsoever. Buyouts can move tge market of anything pre-Alara, pretty much.

There is no reason not to pick up dirty cheap 93/94 playables at this point, stuff like Jalum Tome and LGD Relic Barrier. I'm not saying "buy them all!", but owning a set or 2 might prove useful. A set of these will cost you what, a few bucks each? Why not. It is too late for Fellwar Stone, but there are many more targets out there.

Power Artifact I don't see re-restricted, not very soon anyway. If the most recent tournament report on the old school blog is any indication, that is. His fellings echo mine on the deck: when it works, it feels terribly powerful, but half the time it ends up fizzling. "I was missing only 1 mana to untap the Monolith, but Chaos Orb / SInkhole made sure I could never untap it." That happens quite a bit. That or you have infinite mana but no sink.

There are a few old school cards I have on my radar, but as you guys know and understand, name dropping isn't going to help accessibility for anyone, so I'll refrain from now.

I'm interested to see how Old School develops. Will it be the tiny leaders of 2016? If it becomes more popular, I imagine people will be relaxed about introducing revised cards to the format. These cards are pretty old now anyway. Black border is one thing but paying a premium for unlimited is something I wouldn't do.

I really don't see Old School going anywhere. The draw of the format is the casual, beer-friendly nature of it all. No tournament scene needed. Speaking from personal experience, it replaced what used to be my weekly poker game when I found people who could play it. The format just doesn't have the same flash-in-the-pan feel that Tiny Leaders does...it's much more Commander-esque, and I think that'll be reflected in its staying power. A couple cards that are ubiquitous in the format that I'm shocked haven't spiked hard or harder are ANQ Mishra's Factories, ANQ Strip Mines, and most of all, ARN City of Brass. City in particular is in most all Old School decks and it's about impossible to find them in NM condition given how much the card was played back in the day (and therefore most ARN versions are beat to hell). While I'm excited about the format since it's an outlet to play with old cards, it's also made completing sets of those old expansions much more expensive than I'd like.

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Originally Posted by Lysandros

I really don't see Old School going anywhere. The draw of the format is the casual, beer-friendly nature of it all. No tournament scene needed. Speaking from personal experience, it replaced what used to be my weekly poker game when I found people who could play it. The format just doesn't have the same flash-in-the-pan feel that Tiny Leaders does...it's much more Commander-esque, and I think that'll be reflected in its staying power. A couple cards that are ubiquitous in the format that I'm shocked haven't spiked hard or harder are ANQ Mishra's Factories, ANQ Strip Mines, and most of all, ARN City of Brass. City in particular is in most all Old School decks and it's about impossible to find them in NM condition given how much the card was played back in the day (and therefore most ARN versions are beat to hell). While I'm excited about the format since it's an outlet to play with old cards, it's also made completing sets of those old expansions much more expensive than I'd like.

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Tell me about it. Two years ago, I completed my UNL power, and I already had several of the UNL duals. I managed to pick up the missing ones quickly, and with the power, Time Vault, duals and Gauntlet already in my possession, I decided to ocmplete the set. The biggest ones still missing now are Armageddon, Winter Orb, Howling Mine and Wheel of Fortune. And then that stupid 93-94 crap happens. 80 cards missing until completion, most of them rares, and the effort became a whole lot more expensive.

Old School was fun for a while, but then you realize... the format (if you want to call it that) NEVER CHANGES. It's good for nostalgia, but it gets boring real fast. It's more of a niche collector obsession than a format, IMO.

That's not to say that some A/B/U/AN/ANTQ cards weren't undervalued (especially reserved list stuff), but some of the prices on UNL cards are getting a bit out of hand and they probably will end up dropping back down over time.

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On another topic-- looks like Colorless Eldrazi is the real deal in legacy (or at least as good as MUD which is already a regular). For those who have all the MUD staples already (Wastes, Mishras, Caverns, Tombs, Cities, Chalices), when is the best time to buy the Eldrazi core if you want to convert your deck? After the predicted Modern ban? (Will it even matter given that it seems inevitable at this point and everyone knows it?) Would you buy any now? (perhaps Temples/Thorns?) How would this differ for foils?

It doesn't take much to turn 93/94 into 95 by introducing Ice Age and Homelands. Then 96, and so on. The format probably loses some of its nostalgia (and certainly it's innocence) with Urza's Block (if not Alliances). Then there's Old School Commander, etc. it doesn't take much to mix it up. JMO, but I'm convinced it's got staying power as a "thing," at least as far as demand for original printings of old cards are concerned

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Originally Posted by keys

On another topic-- looks like Colorless Eldrazi is the real deal in legacy (or at least as good as MUD which is already a regular). For those who have all the MUD staples already (Wastes, Mishras, Caverns, Tombs, Cities, Chalices), when is the best time to buy the Eldrazi core if you want to convert your deck? After the predicted Modern ban? (Will it even matter given that it seems inevitable at this point and everyone knows it?) Would you buy any now? (perhaps Temples/Thorns?) How would this differ for foils?

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I think prices on the Eldrazi have already started dropping. I picked up the last 3 Endless Ones I needed (I have all the rest) for about 3 dollars each. I could swear they were higher just last week.

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Originally Posted by jamesh

I'm interested to see how Old School develops. Will it be the tiny leaders of 2016? If it becomes more popular, I imagine people will be relaxed about introducing revised cards to the format. These cards are pretty old now anyway. Black border is one thing but paying a premium for unlimited is something I wouldn't do.

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I agree with this sentiment 100%. The tournaments that do pop up in the US (at eternal weekend, for example) allow any version of the card thats non foil original artwork. The spike on UNL cards seems 100% artificial so I don't see how it stays. FWIW, its also odd that the format is called 93/94 yet revised (printed in 94...) isn't allowed. And most people who played back then would tell you revised was on the tables more than A/B/U, so in a way 93/94 is a little bit disingenuous by not allowing revised anyways.

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Originally Posted by rlesko

I agree with this sentiment 100%. The tournaments that do pop up in the US (at eternal weekend, for example) allow any version of the card thats non foil original artwork. The spike on UNL cards seems 100% artificial so I don't see how it stays. FWIW, its also odd that the format is called 93/94 yet revised (printed in 94...) isn't allowed. And most people who played back then would tell you revised was on the tables more than A/B/U, so in a way 93/94 is a little bit disingenuous by not allowing revised anyways.

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Yeah, I played then and by far revised was hugely more numerous. Additionally Fallen Empires was released in 1994 as well so if we're being honest about the naming it should at least include revised and FE.

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Originally Posted by H

I think prices on the Eldrazi have already started dropping. I picked up the last 3 Endless Ones I needed (I have all the rest) for about 3 dollars each. I could swear they were higher just last week.

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There was an initial rush right after the pro tour, and once the have to have it now players were satisfied the price started going down, and last I saw still on a downward trend. It will not go back to pre-pro tour #'s but they have all gone down a bit.
The creatures being in a current draft set helps with their prices, as the drafts are a downward force on the price, unfortunately once a ban could come into effect the set will not be the current draft set anymore, and that downward force will be gone. and since they are pretty much all seeing some Standard play I half expect them to go up a bit once they stop being drafted, since the std demand could outstrip the modern demand for a few of them.

These are also cards that the Kitchen Table players are going to look at and say "oh, cool" meaning they might not get rid of theirs as easily.

I would say for non-foils you can try to wait for the price to reach its bottom, but for foils, I would go now if you think the cards has the chance to become a Legacy contender because as soon as the pimp my deck crowd starts building it the foil price will spike.

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Originally Posted by rlesko

I agree with this sentiment 100%. The tournaments that do pop up in the US (at eternal weekend, for example) allow any version of the card thats non foil original artwork. The spike on UNL cards seems 100% artificial so I don't see how it stays. FWIW, its also odd that the format is called 93/94 yet revised (printed in 94...) isn't allowed. And most people who played back then would tell you revised was on the tables more than A/B/U, so in a way 93/94 is a little bit disingenuous by not allowing revised anyways.

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From what I read, it is basically elitism and showing how they are better than others while claiming nostalgia, Revised was released before Legends and The Dark which are both included.

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

From what I read, it is basically elitism and showing how they are better than others while claiming nostalgia, Revised was released before Legends and The Dark which are both included.

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Yep, it makes no sense. Could have been a deliberate plan to increase the value of UNL cards collectors were holding.

More anecdotal evidence, but I was also playing during 93/94 and Revised cards were definitely more common (and are hence more nostalgic to me).

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

From what I read, it is basically elitism and showing how they are better than others while claiming nostalgia, Revised was released before Legends and The Dark which are both included.

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You are correct, but recognize that Swedish Magic 93/94, which is the go-to for the majority of players, started in 2007 amongst a very small playgroup. People took notice locally, and slowly over the last 9 years it has spread across the globe. 94 or Old School play started to peak some interest in North America around 2011-2013 on and sites like Eternal Central and LandLotusJuzam (which is amazing if you haven't seen it) developed similar formats, but with more lax printing restrictions. Throughout that period, I've found the Swedish ruleset and restrictions to be the most popular globally.
The reason that the Swedish format gained a lot of interest was largely due to Chas Andres's (Starcity Finance Writer) article on it last May (http://www.starcitygames.com/article...ool-Magic.html). He didn't try to make it a spec format, but he encouraged people to pickup Unlimited copies as the pricing was much cheaper than Alpha and Beta. People took note and the items quickly started to dry up and increase in price sense.
I can appreciate that a lot of people were burned with Tiny Leaders and now are very skeptical homebrewed formats. I also understand that the restrictions of the Swedish format seem to imply that people are trying to pull the financial wool over your eyes. That said, the is documented history and interest in this particular iteration of the format for nearly 10 years, with the last 5 years being on a global level.
As I've previously said, no one is forcing anyone to follow the Swedish 94 printing restrictions, however that tends to be the most desirable way to play. People like pimp, and the reality is that Unlimited is now considered a pimp printing by many people. We all know there is a finite amount of this stuff out there, especially in near mint condition, so with increased demand 22 years post printing, the prices are going to go up. I sympathize with those who genuinely want to relive some nostaglia and play with early printings, but it is what it is. You don't need to get hung up on whether your cards say Tap or have the Tap symbol, but if it is important to you, realize that the available supply has diminished from early adopters and the price has increased.

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Originally Posted by Bosque

Yeah, I played then and by far revised was hugely more numerous. Additionally Fallen Empires was released in 1994 as well so if we're being honest about the naming it should at least include revised and FE.

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Here in the US, the Eternal Central rules allow Revised and FE.

They also generally change the Restricted list to allow "new" decks to be made each event.

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

There was an initial rush right after the pro tour, and once the have to have it now players were satisfied the price started going down, and last I saw still on a downward trend. It will not go back to pre-pro tour #'s but they have all gone down a bit.
The creatures being in a current draft set helps with their prices, as the drafts are a downward force on the price, unfortunately once a ban could come into effect the set will not be the current draft set anymore, and that downward force will be gone. and since they are pretty much all seeing some Standard play I half expect them to go up a bit once they stop being drafted, since the std demand could outstrip the modern demand for a few of them.

These are also cards that the Kitchen Table players are going to look at and say "oh, cool" meaning they might not get rid of theirs as easily.

I would say for non-foils you can try to wait for the price to reach its bottom, but for foils, I would go now if you think the cards has the chance to become a Legacy contender because as soon as the pimp my deck crowd starts building it the foil price will spike.

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That makes sense. Also, I think people have realized it is almost certainly going to be banned in Modern and so demand has slacked, while supply really hasn't.

If you want foils though, always move on them before the set is out of print. Once it is, the price on foil anything playable generally doubles. I'm glad Gerry had Matter Reshapers in his deck though, I randomly opened a foil one in my prize packs on Friday and I have a playset of regular ones.

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

I would say for non-foils you can try to wait for the price to reach its bottom, but for foils, I would go now if you think the cards has the chance to become a Legacy contender because as soon as the pimp my deck crowd starts building it the foil price will spike.

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Thanks for the input.

If you have the Stompy manabase and Chalices already, the deck is actually quite cheap. I ended up buying set foils (since the multiple was only about 2x) of everything except the Thorns (bought non-foil) and Eyes (waiting for a ban) and it came out to less than 300 euros.

Seemed like an easy upgrade on standard MUD and better for the long-term since it's also playable in Modern (assuming the DCI doesn't completely gut it).

Though if they ban Temple and not Eye I'll feel a bit stupid...

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Originally Posted by keys

Thanks for the input.

If you have the Stompy manabase and Chalices already, the deck is actually quite cheap. I ended up buying set foils (since the multiple was only about 2x) of everything except the Thorns (bought non-foil) and Eyes (waiting for a ban) and it came out to less than 300 euros.

Seemed like an easy upgrade on standard MUD and better for the long-term since it's also playable in Modern (assuming the DCI doesn't completely gut it).

Though if they ban Temple and not Eye I'll feel a bit stupid...

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In all honesty if the deck remains playable in Legacy, a banning of Eye in Modern won't drop the price that significantly. Sadly price memory is a thing, and the fact that the deck appears to be playable in Legacy (and relatively budget at that) will help it maintain a price of $20+ regardless of what happens to it in Modern.

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Originally Posted by Di

In all honesty if the deck remains playable in Legacy, a banning of Eye in Modern won't drop the price that significantly. Sadly price memory is a thing, and the fact that the deck appears to be playable in Legacy (and relatively budget at that) will help it maintain a price of $20+ regardless of what happens to it in Modern.

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True, but I think we might see a lot of Expedition Eyes go up for sale if it does get banned. You also have Tron players who'd probably be selling their copies as well.

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Originally Posted by keys

True, but I think we might see a lot of Expedition Eyes go up for sale if it does get banned. You also have Tron players who'd probably be selling their copies as well.

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Eye might still command value from EDH players wanting it, as tutoring my eldrazi and other targets is good enough for many of them.

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Originally Posted by H

If you want foils though, always move on them before the set is out of print. Once it is, the price on foil anything playable generally doubles. I'm glad Gerry had Matter Reshapers in his deck though, I randomly opened a foil one in my prize packs on Friday and I have a playset of regular ones.

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Ya, I do not know if I should be hopeful of this, or dreading it.
I bought a 4 Japanese boxes (tentacle monsters need to be Japanese, not English) and pulled a foil Thought-Knot, Mimic and Reshaper from them. Now I do not know if I should buy foil Japanese playsets or sell those 3 cards...

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Originally Posted by Lysandros

I really don't see Old School going anywhere. The draw of the format is the casual, beer-friendly nature of it all. No tournament scene needed. Speaking from personal experience, it replaced what used to be my weekly poker game when I found people who could play it. The format just doesn't have the same flash-in-the-pan feel that Tiny Leaders does...it's much more Commander-esque, and I think that'll be reflected in its staying power. A couple cards that are ubiquitous in the format that I'm shocked haven't spiked hard or harder are ANQ Mishra's Factories, ANQ Strip Mines, and most of all, ARN City of Brass. City in particular is in most all Old School decks and it's about impossible to find them in NM condition given how much the card was played back in the day (and therefore most ARN versions are beat to hell). While I'm excited about the format since it's an outlet to play with old cards, it's also made completing sets of those old expansions much more expensive than I'd like.

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I understand and share the views of most here about Old School. It does indeed feel somewhat elitist, allowing certain prints and not others. Yes, the Fallen and Revised argument. Tiny Leader was indeed a flash in the pan, but Old School developped slowly over the years. All valid points.

I couldn't care less if the guy in front of me taps an Cronicles City to tap a Revised Tome to draw a card. I'd rather have someone in front of me to play with than building decks I can only goldfish. At the end of the day, I do feel the format has lasting appeal. Price memory being what it is, I doubt the cards are going down to what they were last year, even if all of a sudden everybody decides to unload their staples.

Considering my very limited free time and my absence of desire to take part in Modern tournaments, I converted some Modern staples into stuff on the Reserve List/Power 2 years ago. At the rate they were reprinting stuff, keeping everything in a box didn't seem like a good idea. The trades you could make back then were truly mindblowing, with stores no less. Although the prices on higher end stuff readjusted, some Modern cards are way overpriced and would convert nicely to RL stuff even now. Glimmervoid, Ravager, Ugin, Chalice,...Spellskite? I don't like the fact they can reprint, and do reprint everything they can. People sitting right now on sets of Twilight Mires and Phyrexian Altar are wasting money. I mean, why? If you play in tournaments I semi get it. If they're in your pet decks that's fine. But these sitting in binders?

There's an insane amount of pressure on AN City of Brass these days, especially NM ones, but the beat up will follow suit eventually. Considering the price of Duals, most people turn to these for fixing. I, for one, am very optimistic for the format, and there is palpable, growing interest in my city. Clerk at my LGS tells me the old binders are taken out and emptied a hell of a lot more than before, and anything remotely playable from UNL/LGD/ANQ sells very well and quickly. That did not happen overnight, mind you, but a rather as growing interests over time here.

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Originally Posted by KindGrind

There's an insane amount of pressure on AN City of Brass these days, especially NM ones, but the beat up will follow suit eventually.

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This is another interesting area of collection - beat up cards. If you are playing in 9394 why would you care about having NM cities? There is an authenticity about playing old, beat up cards and 9394 is the format for that. Really heavy play cards are often more popular/commented on than EX condition cards.

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Originally Posted by Lysandros

It doesn't take much to turn 93/94 into 95 by introducing Ice Age and Homelands. Then 96, and so on. The format probably loses some of its nostalgia (and certainly it's innocence) with Urza's Block (if not Alliances). Then there's Old School Commander, etc. it doesn't take much to mix it up. JMO, but I'm convinced it's got staying power as a "thing," at least as far as demand for original printings of old cards are concerned

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If I'd be to play any kind of so-called Old School "format", I'd try to play with a rule "one new set per year". So yes, I'd play solely with ABU+Nights until December. It might be pretty silly and boring, but considering that I'd have time for about ten evenings of MtG until that date, it won't be THAT boring.

Or, maybe the 93-95 would be better. There are of additional cards, with some amazing mana fixing options (painlands, Glaciers), especially if we'd allow APO painlands for the sake of balance. (There's nothing wrong with five additional lands; those should have been in Ice Age, not the Veldt nonsense.)

With ABU-Alliances you got many of cheap and good new cards. The nostalgia factor is not that affected, unless you started in 93/4 and had the best time back then. The color green is still kinda shitty (it will be until at least Mirage, if not until Visions), but at least you can build some silly Storm Cauldron + Fastbond deck and you got loads of cheap LD, some additional removal (Dark Ban, Reprisal), a semi-viable graveyard decks (Nether Shadow + Ice Age Ghoul), some kind of silly reanimator (Mind Bomb, Deep Spawn, 8x Animate Dead), traditional RG Beats with solid number of bolts, GWillowGeddon, monoblack/white knights, Sacrificial Dance of the Collosus of Drain Life, whatever else.
Even Stasis.

I'd love that format, but alas, it won't happen.

I think the 93/94 format looks fun and interesting, but there`s just no way I`m sticking to the edition rule. I get the original intent, I really do, but paying $83 a piece for an otherwise unplayable card like Erhnam Djinn is just not something I can bring myself to do when the Chronicles edition costs $0.2. Even something like a set of Unlimited Armageddon costs Tarmogoyf money while a Revised set can be had for $10. And don`t get me started on Unlimited duals. I have the dough, but that`s not at all how I want to spend it. This has a ripple effect when considering if I should get into the format. Do I bother to build the deck and spend money on the cards I need that don`t have cheap reprints and/or have non-artificial value if I won`t be able to play in proper tournaments? Maybe not. I absolutely think that they should open up, officially, for playing Revised and Chronicles reprints of cards that are in the legal sets if they want their format to survive and grow. Then again, maybe opening up the format and making it widely popular is not their intent at all.

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Originally Posted by Havrekjex

Then again, maybe opening up the format and making it widely popular is not their intent at all.

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If by "them" you mean the original Swedes, then yes, they're not interested. Their choice, and I understand why they've chosen that.

The issues with 93/94 can be easily fixed. The Swedes invented it, so even though it's a completely casual format, there will be a psychological expectation of people to play by the 'official' Swedish rules, sort of like how in reality most EDH playgroups stick to the official banlist. If there'd still be an invitational, WotC would have to simply include something like 93/94 on the agenda, and allow reprints of the cards. Instantaneously, the 'official' rules as seen by the playerbase will be those of WotC, even if they'd never touch the format again afterwards (kind of like how Cursed Scroll is still banned from Tempest block tournaments, even though those haven't been organized in 19 years). Even a single tournament as side event on a legacy GP would do, probably. It'd prevent further inflation of a good chunk of the secondary market.

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Originally Posted by sjmcc13

Ya, I do not know if I should be hopeful of this, or dreading it.
I bought a 4 Japanese boxes (tentacle monsters need to be Japanese, not English) and pulled a foil Thought-Knot, Mimic and Reshaper from them. Now I do not know if I should buy foil Japanese playsets or sell those 3 cards...

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Well, I am not one for Japanese cards. Do you really want to play the deck? If so, I'd say go for it now. If you don't really, then I'd move them, you can always pick up non-foil ones easily post-Modern ban.

Really, do we really need wizard to step in and say: "Hey, guys, we printed this card so you can play it. And if someone says otherwise, just change friends."
People are just accepting this for no reason.

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Originally Posted by Spam

Really, do we really need wizard to step in and say: "Hey, guys, we printed this card so you can play it. And if someone says otherwise, just change friends."
People are just accepting this for no reason.

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Yes, we do, because yes, they do. Man is a pathetic herd creature.

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Originally Posted by Havrekjex

I think the 93/94 format looks fun and interesting, but there`s just no way I`m sticking to the edition rule. I get the original intent, I really do, but paying $83 a piece for an otherwise unplayable card like Erhnam Djinn is just not something I can bring myself to do when the Chronicles edition costs $0.2. Even something like a set of Unlimited Armageddon costs Tarmogoyf money while a Revised set can be had for $10. And don`t get me started on Unlimited duals. I have the dough, but that`s not at all how I want to spend it. This has a ripple effect when considering if I should get into the format. Do I bother to build the deck and spend money on the cards I need that don`t have cheap reprints and/or have non-artificial value if I won`t be able to play in proper tournaments? Maybe not. I absolutely think that they should open up, officially, for playing Revised and Chronicles reprints of cards that are in the legal sets if they want their format to survive and grow. Then again, maybe opening up the format and making it widely popular is not their intent at all.

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Not sure how it is in Europe, but every get together in North America i have seen goes by the Eternal Central rules list, which includes FE, and is fine with reprints and FBB.

I've got a Oldschool deck that i'm going to be playing with at GP Toronto (we're trying to get a side event going). It's like 90% "real" but i'm not interested in getting unlimited Duals for it, i've had my duals since 94, screw anyone who says that isn't old enough. The rest is just for aesthetics and pimp factor and cause it hasn't cost me much at all.

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Originally Posted by ReAnimator

Not sure how it is in Europe, but every get together in North America i have seen goes by the Eternal Central rules list, which includes FE, and is fine with reprints and FBB.

I've got a Oldschool deck that i'm going to be playing with at GP Toronto (we're trying to get a side event going). It's like 90% "real" but i'm not interested in getting unlimited Duals for it, i've had my duals since 94, screw anyone who says that isn't old enough. The rest is just for aesthetics and pimp factor and cause it hasn't cost me much at all.

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Yea we play 93/94 here as well, and revised in totally allowed. There is no way now people could afford the Swedes rules, plus those rules they made were when the older cards were MUCH cheaper. Compare prices to 2007 and its not even close.... and we also allow FBB.

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Originally Posted by ReAnimator

Not sure how it is in Europe, but every get together in North America i have seen goes by the Eternal Central rules list, which includes FE, and is fine with reprints and FBB.

I've got a Oldschool deck that i'm going to be playing with at GP Toronto (we're trying to get a side event going). It's like 90% "real" but i'm not interested in getting unlimited Duals for it, i've had my duals since 94, screw anyone who says that isn't old enough. The rest is just for aesthetics and pimp factor and cause it hasn't cost me much at all.

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In NorCal, we have our own list (different from EC), but we do also allow Revised, Chronicles, Fallen Empires, and FBB. And quite frankly, I don't think any of us care as long as reprints are old frame and original picture (I've even played a 4th Edition Verduran Enchantress, though admittedly it was a pimpish color error one).

Speaking of which, we just had an event a couple days ago (lots of pics for those into that sort of thing).

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Originally Posted by aahz

In NorCal, we have our own list (different from EC), but we do also allow Revised, Chronicles, Fallen Empires, and FBB. And quite frankly, I don't think any of us care as long as reprints are old frame and original picture (I've even played a 4th Edition Verduran Enchantress, though admittedly it was a pimpish color error one).

Speaking of which, we just had an event a couple days ago (lots of pics for those into that sort of thing).

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Thanks for sharing this - beautiful decks inside. I see you also allow 4x Black Vise, which makes UR pretty devastating! I also notice Tourach isn't restricted (some group do restrict it) - I'd absolutely be rocking that Deadguy Ale pile the front runner was playing in a Tourach-friedly meta. This is what I'm talking about - some people going all out with their Beta duals and Power, and others rocking their RV Duals. Excellent day of MTG it must have been!

Side note: so many Howling Mines... No wonder they're getting pretty hard to come by... =)
Side note #2: that blue mana-screw deck is a feast for the eyes.... Tabernacle overkill (!)

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Speaking of which, we just had an event a couple days ago (lots of pics for those into that sort of thing).

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Sweet! thanks for the share.

Petrified Field just doubled in price; is it some sort of speculative anti-Wasteland tech for Legacy Eldrazi builds? Or is it just another crazy buyout?

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Originally Posted by Jamaican Zombie Legend

Petrified Field just doubled in price; is it some sort of speculative anti-Wasteland tech for Legacy Eldrazi builds? Or is it just another crazy buyout?

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Maybe the idea is that the card is crappy enough to not be reprinted ever, but otoh everybody needs it for T1 dredge? Is it RL?

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Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer

Is it RL?

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Odyssey, so nope. But how would it be better than CoW as anti-LD tech?

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Originally Posted by Bed Decks Palyer

Maybe the idea is that the card is crappy enough to not be reprinted ever, but otoh everybody needs it for T1 dredge? Is it RL?

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Rebuys bazzars and landfall triggers for days.

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Petrified Field just doubled in price; is it some sort of speculative anti-Wasteland tech for Legacy Eldrazi builds? Or is it just another crazy buyout?

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Guess I'm glad I have one for random EDH decks and such...but this sort of thing is getting more than a little ridiculous.

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Originally Posted by phonics

Rebuys bazzars and landfall triggers for days.

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It's been begging to be broken for a long time. Only needs one other card (and two fields) to get a kill from an infinite recursion. Half or the theoretical combo is free.

Gods, I have four of those unsleeved in a pile from when I was playing Dredge in Vintage. Really, that is the only place I have ever seen it used. In Legacy I would rather Pithing Needle, Crucible or Loam over this. The only use I can see for it is countering DRS.