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Call me crazy but this seems pretty good in Pox. Surgical/Extirpate have both been in/out of maindeck in pox lists before and this has additional use. Not saying this is as good as extirpate/surgical, but discard is a foundational part of Pox's plan. Sometimes that plan backfires.Quote:
Originally Posted by ReAnimator
it turns off fetches, so it's pretty cool. fringe playable, but a really cool sb card vs graveyard based decks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Safety
So, basically, WOTC wanted to give Bolas some Yawgmoth level cards? Bolas's Citadel is almost Yawgmoth's Bargain and Deliver Unto Evil is almost Yawgmoth's Will. And also, when did WOTC start filling up standard with combo cards? I hope this is a new direction they are going with their cards. As a long time MTG player, let me just say, I love this set. War of the Spark is the best set I've seen in years.
How many cards do you all think will see play in Legacy? Including both tier one and tier two fringe decks? I would say at least, Bolas's Citadel, Deliver Unto Evil, Karn the Great Creator, Angrath's Rampage, Jace Wielder of Mysteries, God Eternal Kefnet, Explosion Zone, Ilharg the Raze Boar, Teferi Time Raveler.
Build around cards for Arena post-Modern format IMO. Without these cards the format would be super boring and have no meta-diversity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
Absolutely Liliana's Triumph as well. Other contenders (some are more keep an eye on for future synergies) are Tomik, Saheeli, Dovin, Neoform, Ral, and Flux Channeler.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
My Best Guesses:Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
- Karn, The Great Creator (probably the most clear card in the set)
- Ugin, the Ineffable (Seems like a good singleton in MUD type decks - it can't destroy lands or artifacts, but its pretty decent removal that acts like win more)
- Deliver Unto Evil (I don't think you can sneeze at a Gifts ungiven redux)
- Explosion Zone (EE but on a land is nuts)
- Gideon Blackblade (for my personal Oops Gideon Deck)
- Jace, Wielder of Mysteries (as a substitute for Lab Maniac - it's more expensive but if you're a combo deck you don't really care about the cost when you're already going off and this is just better on the board than the maniac)
- The Elderspell (SB material)
- Liliana's Triumph (Better Edict, as black decks will be playing Liliana. Or Edict 5-8)
- Finale of Promise (some storm might play it)
- Green Finale (GSZ 5-8 but can get any color and from the grave - some deck will find a use for it)
- Ilharg the Raze Boar (Sneak and Show?)
- Viven's Arkbow (seems like a card that legacy would love)
- Angrath's Rampage (sorcery - but really flexible so might see play)
- Domri, Anarch of Bolas (Does Zoo care?)
- Neoform (If the Neoform combo takes off)
- Tefri, Time Raveler (Shuts off instants and can act like draw)
- Ashiok, Dream Render (Shuts off fetches, gravehate and fuels your own graveyard)
- Dovin, Hand of Control (taxing effect plus a pillow fort)
- Saheeli, Sublime Artificer (if YP can make it, sort of feel this can, even if its 1 more mana)
- Karn's Bastion (too many interactions with Stax type decks for this to be ignored)
- Interplanar Beacon (if PW stax/stompy becomes a thing this is needed)
It reminds me of some of that old-school art from the sets prior to Urza's Block, when they had all kinds of different artists with their own personal styles generating really unique hand-drawn fantasy art.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Bolas's Citadel with Goblin Welder, Lotus Petal, LED, Mox Opal, Rituals, etc?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cire
Maybe with belcher and just 1 or 2 lands. Welder just here if they counter belcher or Citadel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pittplayer
Belcher does not want Citadel. Belcher wants the namesake card and a bunch of rituals in the opening hand and to go off turn one. Also Belcher does not want Welder. I can see Citadel in a more Cheerios/Storm deck.Quote:
Originally Posted by HdH_Cthulhu
http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/souldiviner.jpg
Now we can turn Dark Depths into a draw engine! :eyebrow: Jokes aside, what are "bad" counters to feed this? Age counters?
Serrated Biskelion
Combo of the century
If they could hit opposing cards it would be playable. Or if it's was 3/2Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
Sinking Feeling was the closest I found to turning this into an engine. Unfortunately, it doesn't go infinite because it costs 1 to activate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barook
I absolutely love it! This set has delivered on so many levels for me. Such an old school feel in so many ways. Boras looks like so much fun in edh/casualQuote:
Originally Posted by MGB
This is definitely the highest power level set that we've had in a while. Multiple Legacy playables plus a ton of cool fringe stuff that might see some play.Quote:
Originally Posted by itslarryyo
Persist creatures + that = real zombies army
Good find. :1:: Draw a card is pretty decent, but then you're running an aura. :really:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanni
As for combos, Glen Elendra Archmage might be interesting in that regard to set up a soft lock.
The power level of this set is in-sane, and not in the membrane (<3erlich bachman)
I previously said karn is the best card in the set. Well, i think im gonna have to take my words back real soon.
This set is full of bombs at every rarity.
Just like my favourite pauper combo: Quicksilver Dagger + Horseshoe CrabQuote:
Originally Posted by Barook
I feel like Nissa, Who Shakes the World might be a sleeper in standard. At €1.90, a rare planeswalker that costs 5CC but virtually costs 3CC like Teferi, but also attacks AND defends itself at the same time, and has an ultimate that will win you the game on the spot usually looks very powerful for a format like standard.
You can put it into the graveyard along with Devoted Druid and have a Noxious Ooze in play. If Ooze had haste, that might actually be playable.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hanni
Anger?Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Still doesn't seem better than other options.
Seems worse than the standard Necrotic Ooze combo with Phyrexian Devourer and Triskelion.Quote:
Originally Posted by rufus
Oath of Kaya seems bonkers to me. It's a BW lightning helix that ALSO punishes attackers? It's basically a 10 point swing no matter what.
Only punishes if they attack your 'walkers. Still yeah, it's a great, great card. Abzan really needed something like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
It seems pretty strong. I'm not sure if it's good enough for legacy, but maybe modern. And if you have a way to blink it oh boyQuote:
Originally Posted by FourDogsinaHorseSuit
If only Oath of Kaya + Aminatou, the Fateshifter was legal in modern.
Ok, I misread it. I can cut my pre-order down from 4.Quote:
Originally Posted by morgan_coke
Soul Diviner should work pretty well with Aether Vial - both are cheap, Vial is good on its own and it can generate excess counters to feed to the Diviner. A deck like this doesn't exist yet, but considering Bahra made a new Esperblade deck with Vial recently, a deck like that might pop up sooner or later.
This is pretty niche but the new Huatli seems great in Life.dec as you can not only gain infinite life but attack as well. Toss in the new GSZ to replace some number of Eladamri's Call, not sure if it's better yet (sorcery vs. instant, if you're running Vial/Cavern, or perhaps Chord is better, etc.) but it's an option.
http://mythicspoiler.com/war/cards/h...esunsheart.jpg
Maybe could even stay mono white now (tutor with recruiter). Like a really bad D&T but with the combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by filln
Ooh, nice one! I was thinking greater gargadon, but i'm not sure it works on suspended cards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
Edit: this references Soul Diviner, just for posterity
Narset hates cantrips
Narset must hate being blue :laugh:
Holy shit. It's Leovold on a mono blue Planeswalker with an activated ability of a flipped Azcanta? I'd say that's a pretty insane card that will absolutely see Legacy play.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ace/Homebrew
Narset hates opponent's cantripsQuote:
Originally Posted by Echelon
Seems blue to me :cool:
5 Mana walker that doesn't defend itself? Doubtful. I think the card is decent, but I don't see what deck wants this and what you're cutting for itQuote:
Originally Posted by Hanni